Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 17, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2017 A bit shat to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted July 17, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2017 piss poor. jennings, ballance and dawson need dropping asap. Â root needs to go back to 3 too Jennings needs a reprieve, Ballance needs to go, Dawson for Rashid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Jennings needs a reprieve, Ballance needs to go, Dawson for Rashid?  If you had too play two spinners yes, which may well be the case at the oval.  But personally in this test i would of picked the extra batsman and just had moeen as my spinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Could we ever try Bairstow as opener and get Buttler back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 18, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2017 Buttler not deserving of it yet for me. Hameed showed promise last year but gone off a bit. Â Need someone with a bit of grit and stick ability up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 18, 2017 Moderators Share Posted July 18, 2017 In what way is he not deserving?  I think his average in India as a batsman only, held up  Also, the folk they are trying have very good county records but struggle to carry it on  Like Hussain said the other day, Vaughan and trescothick were nowt special in county games  It's much more about attitude  Going back further Botham had a poor county record   On the Bairstow issue, no to him opening But he could bat 4 if Root would go at 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 18, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2017 I understand your point but he was dropped when he didn't score enough runs. In order to get back he's going to have to start scoring a few. The main issue for me is that there are too few that seem able to modify their game to suit the situation. Yes we want to see attacking cricket, but allied to an understanding of the situation. As good a run scorer Buttler can be, he doesn't fill you with confidence that he can "do a cook". In fairness very few do, but there's only so much room in the team. If you were to swap him in for Ballance then maybe, bit still a lack of players that can grind out an innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Going back further Botham had a poor county record     I haven't looked it up, but my memory says otherwise  I'll investigate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I haven't looked it up, but my memory says otherwise  I'll investigate   14,000 runs at 33 800 wickets at 27  Not bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) It's not bad  Maybe I should've said relatively poor  It's almost identical to his test record  I think my point is most players you would see a lower performance at test level  But not with No then  He took to it not just cos he was a good player but because he was mentally strong Edited July 23, 2017 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 26, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2017 Next one tomorrow; no ballance- what do folk think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Next one tomorrow; no ballance- what do folk think? Â Â Injured, I think? Â Even stephens today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 One last chance for Jennings, put Buttler in next one then vs West Indies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 One last chance for Jennings, put Buttler in next one then vs West Indies. Â Â Butler?! Â How many red ball games has he played in the last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Butler?! Â How many red ball games has he played in the last year? Â I just love watching him play, admittingly he's better at white ball cricket, but you know he has it him to score big and has all the shots, I know I'd rather see him in a side, even if he's inconsistent than a Ballance for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I just love watching him play, admittingly he's better at white ball cricket, but you know he has it him to score big and has all the shots, I know I'd rather see him in a side, even if he's inconsistent than a Ballance for example. Â Â Oh, he's great, but................. Â And, he didn't have a great time last time in the West Indies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 This test and 1 more vs SA, 3 vs WI and then the Ashes. Â I'm sure they'll give these new guys more time to impress and form can change very quickly but are the likes of Jennings, Ballance, Malan, Westley, Dawson improvements on other players who have struggled at times like Hales, Buttler, Morgan and Rashid? just keep throwing players at it till it works? Â Woakes would defo be playing if fit and we'd be better for it, Philander is a great bowler also, it's isn't easy, Malan got a peach from Rabada also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 This test and 1 more vs SA, 3 vs WI and then the Ashes. Â I'm sure they'll give these new guys more time to impress and form can change very quickly but are the likes of Jennings, Ballance, Malan, Westley, Dawson improvements on other players who have struggled at times like Hales, Buttler, Morgan and Rashid? just keep throwing players at it till it works? Â Woakes would defo be playing if fit and we'd be better for it, Philander is a great bowler also, it's isn't easy, Malan got a peach from Rabada also. Â Â not looking good for the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2017 In fairness Westley did OK. For me Buttler needs to shape himself. Â The conditions favoured the bowlers yesterday and are likely to be similar throughout. Once Anderson et al have had a go it will be easier to assess how well they have all batted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 There is no one at county level who is scoring so many runs that they have to be picked.  Westley and Malan's record is nowt special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Also Bairstow is way to good to be at 7! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 28, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2017 Well done Stokes. Some cracking hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Roland-Jones having a dream debut here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Roland-Jones having a dream debut here  Blimey, seems to have something about him this lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Blimey, seems to have something about him this lad! Â Just got another! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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