I would have bet my bottom dollar I'd be conservative or at a push ukip but I've got lib fucking dem.

 

I think it's spending too much time on here with you bedwetting hand wringing yoghurt knitting teacher lovers!

 

www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/

 

 

The Mrs just answered and got UKIP after thinking she'd get lib dem.

 

Someone debunk this as bullshit please.

 

You can also use this as a reminder that you have until the 20th of April to register to vote.

Oh God, Andrew Neil is mauling her again on the Daily Politics.

 

'You want a 60% tax on those earning over 150k. Would you care to tell the viewers what happened what the French introduced a 70% top tax rate for those earning over a million euros?'

 

'Erm well we'll focus on Britain, where...'

 

'No you fucking won't, answer the question. What happened in France?'

 

'Well what we're going to talk about is why we've done this and tax avoidance...'

 

'The French got pretty much zero income from that tax and lots of rich people left France. Would that happen here?'

 

'It is old fashioned to think that people are motivated by money.'

 

'There was a brain drain in Britain in the 60s due to high taxes too. All the best educated left.'

 

'Well, what we need to do is restructure our economy zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...'

 

Just fuck off. I hope this election kills these ridiculous minor parties. The idea the Greens should be allowed anywhere near a pair of scissors, never mind power in government, is suicide.

When she says old fashioned, what the fuck does she think we go to work for?

Fucking head case.

Was this the Aussie? She should stick to fucking kangaroos and stay out of UK politics.

Was this Bolty? He should stick to fucking kangaroos and stay out of UK politics.

The right to buy policy is a joke

 

Especially when these housing associations are picking up brand new gaffs on sites like buckshaw village

 

 

The daftest thing is the money raised from the sale of social housing should be invested back into building more social housing stock.

 

Especially in places like bolton and bury where all that seems to be being build is 3/4 bed semi's rather than starter houses

The daftest thing is the money raised from the sale of social housing should be invested back into building more social housing stock.

 

That's the plan, sell what they have, and build more.

 

Strikes me that simply building more might be simpler and fairer than giving people £100k windfalls after they've been lucky enough to get a housing association place to begin with.

My old house... Saly Army bought two houses right in the middle of the development and shoved one utter prick and his shithead family in there. Dragged the whole neighbourhood down, that takes some doing in Tonge. Fucks me right off when he's got a free house and a 64 plate car for fuck all when folk with £150K mortgages across the road are working their bollocks off.

 

Salvation Army can fuck off, right on do-gooder cunts.

New build developments only get planning consent in London if they include an element of social housing. This social housing is owned and operated by housing associations. So in effect the housing association tenants are living in exactly the same housing as owner occupiers. I think £100K would be a conservative estimate for the sort of windfall that would be coming to them in that market.

New build developments only get planning consent in London if they include an element of social housing. This social housing is owned and operated by housing associations. So in effect the housing association tenants are living in exactly the same housing as owner occupiers. I think £100K would be a conservative estimate for the sort of windfall that would be coming to them in that market.

 

The theoretical discount from market value when sold to them is capped at £107k in London. Of course, hold onto the place for a few years and that's soon £200k.

 

My sister in law and her partner, a feckless pair if truth be told, have made around £250k on the housing association place they bought in London. She's 40, it's not like they've been in the same place for decades, I reckon they bought it about 10 years ago after 5 years living there.

 

A lot of working people won't have earned that in take home pay in the same period. While their taxes paid for her families benefits. It's a total joke, morally indefensible, and I'm not sure why the Tories are hell bent on it.

 

How many tenants will be EU immigrants? Because they've possibly just been handed a good reason to stick around here for 5 years, occupying social housing, and grab themselves a taxpayer funded windfall. Then fuck off back to Lithuania and buy a whole street, you've gotta laugh really. (Don't know if immigrants will be excluded, can't see it mind you).

 A lot of working people won't have earned that in take home pay in the same period. While their taxes paid for her families benefits. It's a total joke, morally indefensible, and I'm not sure why the Tories are hell bent on it.

 

Because they think they can win over Labour voters.

Because they think they can win over Labour voters.

 

In one.

Because they think they can win over Labour voters.

 

Fair enough. So many Tory policies in the manifesto they've launched are just very obvious bribes, no more, no less. Very disappointing.

its disgusting

 

I don't understand why the Labour Party have veard left and are trying to win the far left scutter votes let alone the Tories

 

To win an election in this country you need to appeal to and take the middle ground of the working classes who are sick to death of paying taxes for scutters to sit at home watching Trisha

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its disgusting

 

I don't understand why the Labour Party have veard left and are trying to win the far left scutter votes let alone the Tories

 

To win an election in this country you need to appeal to and take the middle ground of the working classes who are sick to death of paying taxes for scutters to sit at home watching Trisha

Labour are hardly left wing now lets be clear. They are slightly left of centre moving ever so slightly from the centre position of Blairs government.

 

And there is the reason they have moved. Rightly or wrongly they decided to try and distance themselves from 'new labour' by this slightly leftwards move. Their other option was to stand and fight their position which I think they should have done but ultimately may have been much harder.

 

Cameron has lost my vote today. He isn't interested in social justice merely trying to grab votes with poorly thought through schemes and gimmicks that don't help those truly in need and just create problems down the line. If we truly were all in it together that certainly isn't the message now.

Labour are hardly left wing now lets be clear. They are slightly left of centre moving ever so slightly from the centre position of Blairs government.

He's known as Red Ed. Don't be fooled.

Some folk meaning utter menks!

Anyhow, has anyone seen the Greens' manifesto today? Bloody hell fire!

 

I agree with the policy on outlawing of keeping rabbits in cages, if it were not for the fact that I'm promised to UKIP this would sorely tempt me to have a fling!

The whole housing aspect is fucked up.

 

How can it be right that you are paying a marginal 42% tax or so on every penny you earn over 40k or whatever it is, but you can make 100k's tax free just by living in a house (that you may have been practically gifted by the government)

Just a point of order here not all social tenants are jobless benefit sponges.

Just a point of order here not all social tenants are jobless benefit sponges.

 

You would think it's a fair assumption that such types wouldn't be participating in a right-to-buy scheme, so not sure who that's aimed at

Just a point of order here not all social tenants are jobless benefit sponges.

Nobody is saying that (well I hope not) but the right to buy imo is a shocking example of where positive discrimination is poorly executed.

How many of those council tenants made a killing last time round compared to your regular house buyer? And still, the pittance they paid didn't go towards building new houses to replace the ones sold.

I was brought up in a council house and when given the right to buy in the early 80's, my parents paid £9,000 to buy a 3 bed house that they'd been in since it was built in 1973.

 

Mind you, it's in Farnworth, so there's no profit to be made from it.

I was brought up in a council house and when given the right to buy in the early 80's, my parents paid £9,000 to buy a 3 bed house that they'd been in since it was built in 1973.

 

Mind you, it's in Farnworth, so there's no profit to be made from it.

Good on them and why not, anyone would in that situation. Whether it should be a viable option though is not for me to argue or worry about????

One of the problems in our country is people thinking you have a right to own a house. And also people thinking that the housing market continually booms. It doesn't and all the idiots who thought continually buying to make a profit in the late 90s and early 2000s learned the hardway after 2008.

Nobody is saying that (well I hope not) but the right to buy imo is a shocking example of where positive discrimination is poorly executed.

How many of those council tenants made a killing last time round compared to your regular house buyer? And still, the pittance they paid didn't go towards building new houses to replace the ones sold.

You say last time round It never went away. there's even specialist mortgage providers.

Unless it's never been available to social tenants not just council ones

 

Your last sentence is the massive downfall in the whole scheme.

There's at least 3 prime sites for social housing developments in Bolton itself, but no money to build them.

B@H have built the odd few in Jonny fow and withins but still nowhere near the short fall.

Homeowners don't strike.

 

Having said that if there was an option to vote a Tory/Lib Dem coalition back in for another term, that's where I'd be sticking my x.

 

Seen as there's not however - I'm lost.