September 14, 201510 yr Author Who mentioned prolific? Your word not mine. How many do we have to accept before it becomes unacceptable to you? I'd rather non of em come in it all and the whole situation wasnt happening to be honest. But like I said above its a crisis and as a civilised nation in a civilised society we have to help out like everyone else. Like I said the other day I'm far from saying let em all in,just saying the situation needs sorting. Calling them all terrorists and telling them all to fuck off is not really an option as a fully fledged member of the EU.
September 14, 201510 yr Who called them all terrorists and told them to fuck off? Don't recall that on here.
September 14, 201510 yr Author Who called them all terrorists and told them to fuck off? Don't recall that on here. It's what many imply.
September 14, 201510 yr I'd rather non of em come in it all and the whole situation wasnt happening to be honest. But like I said above its a crisis and as a civilised nation in a civilised society we have to help out like everyone else. Like I said the other day I'm far from saying let em all in,just saying the situation needs sorting. Calling them all terrorists and telling them all to fuck off is not really an option as a fully fledged member of the EU. Aye exactly So waiting until they do owt is after the horse has bolted? All of this is on the wild supposition that they are all terrorists.... So we pre-empt that with not letting any refugees in and let what happen in the Middle East? More of them will then turn into West hating nut jobs for a start And what if, just if, they aren't terrorists in the main but folk wanting to escape a land that is in turnoil? What happened to compassion for fellow man that isn't a backward jihadist but one unlucky enough to be born near some?
September 14, 201510 yr Fucking hell there's some huge assumptions there. There's a massive difference between opening the borders to all and shutting them to all.
September 14, 201510 yr Fucking hell there's some huge assumptions there. There's a massive difference between opening the borders to all and shutting them to all. Correct And this line came from a quote that the majority of them "were like this" FWIW I haven't seen anyone on here say open the borders to all However plenty have hinted at completely shutting them
September 14, 201510 yr Fucking hell there's some huge assumptions there. There's a massive difference between opening the borders to all and shutting them to all. So what do you suggest? Without making any assumptions of course...
September 14, 201510 yr So what do you suggest? Without making any assumptions of course... Don't let the ones with fuzzy wuzzy beards in. Is that the answer you were waiting for?
September 14, 201510 yr Don't let the ones with fuzzy wuzzy beards in. Is that the answer you were waiting for? Not at all. Interested in a genuine answer...
September 15, 201510 yr Who mentioned prolific? Your word not mine. How many do we have to accept before it becomes unacceptable to you? The thing is You've seen a fair few on the news who are arrested before they've done owt And Id be surprised if many of them were found without the help of some do gooding Muslim http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33417300 As he says the next step is for them to stop the problem before it starts, don't have stats for that though As an aside, anyone offended by this? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/french-magazine-hebdo-mocks-drowned-toddler-150914200930751.html
September 15, 201510 yr The thing is You've seen a fair few on the news who are arrested before they've done owt And Id be surprised if many of them were found without the help of some do gooding Muslim http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33417300 As he says the next step is for them to stop the problem before it starts, don't have stats for that though As an aside, anyone offended by this? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/french-magazine-hebdo-mocks-drowned-toddler-150914200930751.html I see the Society of Black Lawyers have got involved again Now there is a shock
September 15, 201510 yr I see the Society of Black Lawyers have got involved again Now there is a shock What do the Society of White Lawyers have to say?
September 15, 201510 yr The thing is You've seen a fair few on the news who are arrested before they've done owt And Id be surprised if many of them were found without the help of some do gooding Muslim http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33417300 As he says the next step is for them to stop the problem before it starts, don't have stats for that though As an aside, anyone offended by this? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/french-magazine-hebdo-mocks-drowned-toddler-150914200930751.html I'm afraid you have to deliberately be getting the wrong end of the stick or mentally ill to think those cartoons are taking the piss out of the boy. All this is is people who are glad the offices got attakced and the cartoonists murdered but couldn't say so at the time looking for any reason to say so in a very underhand fashion now.
September 15, 201510 yr Correct And this line came from a quote that the majority of them "were like this" FWIW I haven't seen anyone on here say open the borders to all However plenty have hinted at completely shutting them Yeah I'll hold my hand up and say keep the borders shut. I'll also restate that I believe that should be the case because the "majority" (over 90%) are fit active young men both at the borders of Greece, Italy, Hungary and Calais. Most of these are not fleeing from Syria or Libya but places like Turkey, Nigeria and even Pakistan. Some of their behaviour on the way over also suggests that these are not your "grateful" fellows, but are arriving with with strong views on religion and a huge sense of entitlement. So if keeping out 10% of genuine in need helps to slow down the inexorable creep of Islam in the West then yes I am for it, as taking them in will only encourage all their mates to make the journey next year. And a final question to you, If in theory you gave these so called refugees a clear choice that to come here they would have to drop their belief systems and accept western values and dress codes, do you believe they would still want to come?
September 15, 201510 yr Aye exactly So waiting until they do owt is after the horse has bolted? All of this is on the wild supposition that they are all terrorists.... So we pre-empt that with not letting any refugees in and let what happen in the Middle East? More of them will then turn into West hating nut jobs for a start And what if, just if, they aren't terrorists in the main but folk wanting to escape a land that is in turnoil? What happened to compassion for fellow man that isn't a backward jihadist but one unlucky enough to be born near some? I just don't get some people. David Cameron has it right. Turn the hikers away. All of them Go to the refugee camps all around the Syrian border and take in 20,000 who can be properly vetted and then taken in as deserving causes. Doesn't this keep everyone on here happy?
September 15, 201510 yr Author Aye us Brits have a great track record of adapting to foreign cultures and integrating to local societies.
September 15, 201510 yr Aye us Brits have a great track record of adapting to foreign cultures and integrating to local societies. We're not so big these days on treating women as 2nd class citizens though.
September 15, 201510 yr Author We're not so big these days on treating women as 2nd class citizens though. You've not been in the golden eagle vaults then
September 15, 201510 yr Yeah I'll hold my hand up and say keep the borders shut. I'll also restate that I believe that should be the case because the "majority" (over 90%) are fit active young men both at the borders of Greece, Italy, Hungary and Calais. Most of these are not fleeing from Syria or Libya but places like Turkey, Nigeria and even Pakistan. Some of their behaviour on the way over also suggests that these are not your "grateful" fellows, but are arriving with with strong views on religion and a huge sense of entitlement. So if keeping out 10% of genuine in need helps to slow down the inexorable creep of Islam in the West then yes I am for it, as taking them in will only encourage all their mates to make the journey next year. And a final question to you, If in theory you gave these so called refugees a clear choice that to come here they would have to drop their belief systems and accept western values and dress codes, do you believe they would still want to come? Probably not As for Western values; I kinda agree. This Shia law bollocks should be banned here for a start rather than a blind eye turned to it But why should we only help folk if they will dress like us? Doesn't bother me if some bloke wants to wear a frock. Fuck me we haven't made crocs illegals. You see the reason we haven't is our "western values" isn't it?
September 15, 201510 yr Aye us Brits have a great track record of adapting to foreign cultures and integrating to local societies. Very true and kudos to you for pointing this out. For one who reeks of crime, you do have the odd flash of inspiration.
September 15, 201510 yr I just don't get some people. David Cameron has it right. Turn the hikers away. All of them Go to the refugee camps all around the Syrian border and take in 20,000 who can be properly vetted and then taken in as deserving causes. Doesn't this keep everyone on here happy? I'm all in favour of vetting - makes sense to me
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