tomski Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 Just now, gonzo said: He wasnt. He was an absolute shyster and after flipping a club in distress and making himself as much as he could. In the end he stopped paying bills and covering losses as the ship began to sink. Think people forget the two seasons where the bills were getting paid and we had to beg steal and borrow to survive whilesaddled with HMRC bills and wonga loans. All falls in to paragraph 1 for me pal. I genuinely doubt he put a penny in. He stopped paying bills when he mortgaged everything off. He’d of sunk us if he could and split/sold the stadium (he’s an asset stripper in his previous life) sadly have first hand experience of. Luckily couldn’t get his Mits on what ended up being the cash cow. Quote
Big E Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 He was no worse than any of the others circling at the time and that’s the sad thing. Even our own trust had folk in it that were wronguns and ready to take it on with I suspect questionable motives Quote
gonzo Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 41 minutes ago, tomski said: All falls in to paragraph 1 for me pal. I genuinely doubt he put a penny in. He stopped paying bills when he mortgaged everything off. He’d of sunk us if he could and split/sold the stadium (he’s an asset stripper in his previous life) sadly have first hand experience of. Luckily couldn’t get his Mits on what ended up being the cash cow. All true but theres a difference between a shyster jumping in and holding a buisness to make some quick cash off a sale and creditors to a bloke stealing £9.5 million of tranfer fees as was first insinuated. ....nobody uses their own money to buy or finance football clubs btw Quote
Moderators Casino Posted January 5, 2024 Moderators Posted January 5, 2024 1 hour ago, tomski said: Eidur was a fucking disgrace at £4m. only offer on the table, as ive said before plenty walked away cos of his previous injuries Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Casino said: only offer on the table, as ive said before plenty walked away cos of his previous injuries Aye. So many factors in deciding how much a fee a player will attract, and ultimately the vendor only gets what someone will pay. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 15 minutes ago, gonzo said: All true but theres a difference between a shyster jumping in and holding a buisness to make some quick cash off a sale and creditors to a bloke stealing £9.5 million of tranfer fees as was first insinuated. ....nobody uses their own money to buy or finance football clubs btw Eddie did. Quote
gonzo Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Cheese said: Eddie did. Did he? How much? Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Did he? How much? He was a big philanthropist. Not just putting his money into us, but donating to lots of other causes. I think you're suggesting he may have used his company's money, which even if true, was ultimately his financial legacy. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 Anyway, back to topic, Hull manager says he's not looking for a striker. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24029359.hull-city-boss-plays-interest-bolton-wanderers-man/ Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 (edited) 21 minutes ago, gonzo said: Did he? How much? He wrote off loans of £175M, then gave us £5M to prevent us going bust a few days before he died. So upwards of £180M. I doubt his family and business associates encouraged him to do any of that. Edited January 5, 2024 by Cheese Quote
gonzo Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Cheese said: He wrote off loans of £175M, then gave us £5M to prevent us going bust a few days before he died. So upwards of £180M. I doubt his family and business associates encouraged him to do any of that. I think you need to re do your GSCE business studies Edited January 5, 2024 by gonzo Quote
gonzo Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 54 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: He was a big philanthropist. Not just putting his money into us, but donating to lots of other causes. I think you're suggesting he may have used his company's money, which even if true, was ultimately his financial legacy. Im suggesting theres a lot more to this utopian view that football club owners have to fund everything with their own cash. Which on the most part do they balls. Owners like Eddie Davies are one in a million. Like I say some folk need to have look at how big operations are actually financed. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Im suggesting theres a lot more to this utopian view that football club owners have to fund everything with their own cash. Which on the most part do they balls. Owners like Eddie Davies are one in a million. Like I say some folk need to have look at how big operations are actually financed. I think we're all aware that many a club is owned by other companies. In fairness, the rennet renegade was just responding to your claim that no owners put their own money in. I don't know for sure, but did Walker and peg leg not put their own dosh in too? Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: I think you need to re do your GSCE business studies There was no such thing when I did GCSE's. All I know is, we wouldn't have seen European football and the incredible players we had 20 years ago if it wasn't for Eddie Davies splurging his fortune on us. And he definitely put in a LOT more than he got out. One in a million is more than nobody. Quote
globaldiver Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 53 minutes ago, Cheese said: He wrote off loans of £175M, then gave us £5M to prevent us going bust a few days before he died. So upwards of £180M. I doubt his family and business associates encouraged him to do any of that. I’d love to know the real number. We’ll probably never know. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: In fairness, the rennet renegade was just responding to your claim that no owners put their own money in. I don't know for sure, but did Walker and peg leg not put their own dosh in too? Correct. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, globaldiver said: I’d love to know the real number. We’ll probably never know. Aye. With the other stuff he funded, he should be appreciated and respected. Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 Eddie Davies gave us the best days of our lifetimes, and for that alone he deserves our respect. Quote
radcliffe white Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 Blackburn have loaned their captain to Ipswich how strange Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Blackburn have loaned their captain to Ipswich how strange Very odd. 26. 200 league games. Loaned to a club in the same division. Tommason says " "He wanted to play the number 6 position, at the moment we have Tronstad playing very well in that position. "He's one of the more expensive boys in our group, so it will free some space up in the financial department to get some players in as well." Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5, 2024 Site Supporter Posted January 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Very odd. 26. 200 league games. Loaned to a club in the same division. Tommason says " "He wanted to play the number 6 position, at the moment we have Tronstad playing very well in that position. "He's one of the more expensive boys in our group, so it will free some space up in the financial department to get some players in as well." Money. Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Very odd. 26. 200 league games. Loaned to a club in the same division. Tommason says " "He wanted to play the number 6 position, at the moment we have Tronstad playing very well in that position. "He's one of the more expensive boys in our group, so it will free some space up in the financial department to get some players in as well." In other words he's not interested in playing in a relegation battle. Quote
tomski Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 2 hours ago, gonzo said: All true but theres a difference between a shyster jumping in and holding a buisness to make some quick cash off a sale and creditors to a bloke stealing £9.5 million of tranfer fees as was first insinuated. ....nobody uses their own money to buy or finance football clubs btw For sure. I’m not buying he put the Madine money all back in. As for he’d get found out and would be prosecuted, I think Boris is showing that theory while genuine, sadly is bollocks. Quote
gonzo Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 59 minutes ago, Cheese said: There was no such thing when I did GCSE's. All I know is, we wouldn't have seen European football and the incredible players we had 20 years ago if it wasn't for Eddie Davies splurging his fortune on us. And he definitely put in a LOT more than he got out. One in a million is more than nobody. Indeed. Im not doubting the mans intentions whatsoever. He should have a statue outside the ground. However I dont personally think he spent £180m of his own personal fortune on Bolton Wanderers and how that figure came to frution has rather a few holes in it. But anyway, the folk that he trusted to spend his money wisely were the problem. Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Indeed. Im not doubting the mans intentions whatsoever. He should have a statue outside the ground. However I dont personally think he spent £180m of his own personal fortune on Bolton Wanderers and how that figure came to frution has rather a few holes in it. But anyway, the folk that he trusted to spend his money wisely were the problem. 100% bang on. Quote
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