tomski Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, gonzo said: He wasnt. He was an absolute shyster and after flipping a club in distress and making himself as much as he could. In the end he stopped paying bills and covering losses as the ship began to sink. Think people forget the two seasons where the bills were getting paid and we had to beg steal and borrow to survive whilesaddled with HMRC bills and wonga loans. All falls in to paragraph 1 for me pal. I genuinely doubt he put a penny in. He stopped paying bills when he mortgaged everything off. He’d of sunk us if he could and split/sold the stadium (he’s an asset stripper in his previous life) sadly have first hand experience of. Luckily couldn’t get his Mits on what ended up being the cash cow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 He was no worse than any of the others circling at the time and that’s the sad thing. Even our own trust had folk in it that were wronguns and ready to take it on with I suspect questionable motives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 41 minutes ago, tomski said: All falls in to paragraph 1 for me pal. I genuinely doubt he put a penny in. He stopped paying bills when he mortgaged everything off. He’d of sunk us if he could and split/sold the stadium (he’s an asset stripper in his previous life) sadly have first hand experience of. Luckily couldn’t get his Mits on what ended up being the cash cow. All true but theres a difference between a shyster jumping in and holding a buisness to make some quick cash off a sale and creditors to a bloke stealing £9.5 million of tranfer fees as was first insinuated. ....nobody uses their own money to buy or finance football clubs btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 5 Moderators Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, tomski said: Eidur was a fucking disgrace at £4m. only offer on the table, as ive said before plenty walked away cos of his previous injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, Casino said: only offer on the table, as ive said before plenty walked away cos of his previous injuries Aye. So many factors in deciding how much a fee a player will attract, and ultimately the vendor only gets what someone will pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 15 minutes ago, gonzo said: All true but theres a difference between a shyster jumping in and holding a buisness to make some quick cash off a sale and creditors to a bloke stealing £9.5 million of tranfer fees as was first insinuated. ....nobody uses their own money to buy or finance football clubs btw Eddie did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, Cheese said: Eddie did. Did he? How much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Did he? How much? He was a big philanthropist. Not just putting his money into us, but donating to lots of other causes. I think you're suggesting he may have used his company's money, which even if true, was ultimately his financial legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 Anyway, back to topic, Hull manager says he's not looking for a striker. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24029359.hull-city-boss-plays-interest-bolton-wanderers-man/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 (edited) 21 minutes ago, gonzo said: Did he? How much? He wrote off loans of £175M, then gave us £5M to prevent us going bust a few days before he died. So upwards of £180M. I doubt his family and business associates encouraged him to do any of that. Edited January 5 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Cheese said: He wrote off loans of £175M, then gave us £5M to prevent us going bust a few days before he died. So upwards of £180M. I doubt his family and business associates encouraged him to do any of that. I think you need to re do your GSCE business studies Edited January 5 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 54 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: He was a big philanthropist. Not just putting his money into us, but donating to lots of other causes. I think you're suggesting he may have used his company's money, which even if true, was ultimately his financial legacy. Im suggesting theres a lot more to this utopian view that football club owners have to fund everything with their own cash. Which on the most part do they balls. Owners like Eddie Davies are one in a million. Like I say some folk need to have look at how big operations are actually financed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Im suggesting theres a lot more to this utopian view that football club owners have to fund everything with their own cash. Which on the most part do they balls. Owners like Eddie Davies are one in a million. Like I say some folk need to have look at how big operations are actually financed. I think we're all aware that many a club is owned by other companies. In fairness, the rennet renegade was just responding to your claim that no owners put their own money in. I don't know for sure, but did Walker and peg leg not put their own dosh in too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: I think you need to re do your GSCE business studies There was no such thing when I did GCSE's. All I know is, we wouldn't have seen European football and the incredible players we had 20 years ago if it wasn't for Eddie Davies splurging his fortune on us. And he definitely put in a LOT more than he got out. One in a million is more than nobody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 53 minutes ago, Cheese said: He wrote off loans of £175M, then gave us £5M to prevent us going bust a few days before he died. So upwards of £180M. I doubt his family and business associates encouraged him to do any of that. I’d love to know the real number. We’ll probably never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: In fairness, the rennet renegade was just responding to your claim that no owners put their own money in. I don't know for sure, but did Walker and peg leg not put their own dosh in too? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, globaldiver said: I’d love to know the real number. We’ll probably never know. Aye. With the other stuff he funded, he should be appreciated and respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Eddie Davies gave us the best days of our lifetimes, and for that alone he deserves our respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Blackburn have loaned their captain to Ipswich how strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Blackburn have loaned their captain to Ipswich how strange Very odd. 26. 200 league games. Loaned to a club in the same division. Tommason says " "He wanted to play the number 6 position, at the moment we have Tronstad playing very well in that position. "He's one of the more expensive boys in our group, so it will free some space up in the financial department to get some players in as well." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 5 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Very odd. 26. 200 league games. Loaned to a club in the same division. Tommason says " "He wanted to play the number 6 position, at the moment we have Tronstad playing very well in that position. "He's one of the more expensive boys in our group, so it will free some space up in the financial department to get some players in as well." Money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Very odd. 26. 200 league games. Loaned to a club in the same division. Tommason says " "He wanted to play the number 6 position, at the moment we have Tronstad playing very well in that position. "He's one of the more expensive boys in our group, so it will free some space up in the financial department to get some players in as well." In other words he's not interested in playing in a relegation battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, gonzo said: All true but theres a difference between a shyster jumping in and holding a buisness to make some quick cash off a sale and creditors to a bloke stealing £9.5 million of tranfer fees as was first insinuated. ....nobody uses their own money to buy or finance football clubs btw For sure. I’m not buying he put the Madine money all back in. As for he’d get found out and would be prosecuted, I think Boris is showing that theory while genuine, sadly is bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 59 minutes ago, Cheese said: There was no such thing when I did GCSE's. All I know is, we wouldn't have seen European football and the incredible players we had 20 years ago if it wasn't for Eddie Davies splurging his fortune on us. And he definitely put in a LOT more than he got out. One in a million is more than nobody. Indeed. Im not doubting the mans intentions whatsoever. He should have a statue outside the ground. However I dont personally think he spent £180m of his own personal fortune on Bolton Wanderers and how that figure came to frution has rather a few holes in it. But anyway, the folk that he trusted to spend his money wisely were the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Indeed. Im not doubting the mans intentions whatsoever. He should have a statue outside the ground. However I dont personally think he spent £180m of his own personal fortune on Bolton Wanderers and how that figure came to frution has rather a few holes in it. But anyway, the folk that he trusted to spend his money wisely were the problem. 100% bang on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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