Politics

[Mounts Kipper]

28 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

What they actually are doing speaks louder than what they say they are going to do I always find😀

I prefer hard facts and figures and as I stated earlier 50million (uk spending) is greater than 40 million (eu spending)  

Edited March 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Not in Crawley]

52 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I prefer hard facts and figures and as I stated earlier 50million (uk spending) is greater than 40 million (eu spending)  

Bloody nora.

Has Mounts borrowed Bolty's irony-o-meter?

[Farrelli]

52 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I prefer hard facts and figures and as I stated earlier 50million (uk spending) is greater than 40 million (eu spending)  

That is what the government say they are going to do. The UKSPF replacement fund set up by the government has so far pledged 50% less than what the EU delivered. They are the facts.

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

That is what the government say they are going to do. The UKSPF replacement fund set up by the government has so far pledged 50% less than what the EU delivered. They are the facts.

Wales will receive £772 million less in the proposed UKSPF replacement fund. Is anyone surprised though apart from Mounts?

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Its hardly surprising when the EU still funding projects and the funding hasn't fully been transferred to the UK government, lets see where we are when the UK government take control.  Seems like more poor journalism to me.     

I'm sure some sectors will receive the same or more funding, and some sectors will receive less - obviously we need to see, as and when we stop getting any EU funding who the winners and losers will be.

I know fishing where hoping to get more......good luck with that 🙂

[Mounts Kipper]

49 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

That is what the government say they are going to do. The UKSPF replacement fund set up by the government has so far pledged 50% less than what the EU delivered. They are the facts.

So far are the operative words. 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

So far are the operative words. 

So not yet a fact then, Mounts?

[Farrelli]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64823710
 

meanwhile Bozo cannot support the new brexit deal even though it is an improvement on the one he agreed three years ago. What a clown.

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

So far are the operative words. 

Cold hard facts is what you like isn’t it? The government has pledged much less than the EU delivered. Wales, NI and Scotland used to be net beneficiaries but no longer will be. 

[Mounts Kipper]

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

So not yet a fact then, Mounts?

Why would it be now when the European fund is still in operation and the government will switch over to UKSPF fund as the EU fund tails off. 

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Cold hard facts is what you like isn’t it? The government has pledged much less than the EU delivered. Wales, NI and Scotland used to be net beneficiaries but no longer will be. 

The UK government have pledged more just that more is going to other areas than the above, there are always 2 sides to a story here is the other alternative view regarding wales funding form EU.

European Union 'vanity projects' in Wales attacked by UK minister - BBC News

   

Edited March 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Why would it be now when the European fund is still in operation and the government will switch over to UKSPF fund as the EU fund tails off. 

Just saying. You're the one that wants to deal only in cold, hard facts.

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The UK government have pledged more just that more is going to other areas than the above, there are always 2 sides to a story here is the other alternative view regarding wales funding form EU.

European Union 'vanity projects' in Wales attacked by UK minister - BBC News

   

The article is from October 2021 so hardly current and charities that help blind people or those with learning disabilities are hardly vanity projects. These are the ones threatened with closure or scaling down on the good work they do. Very sad situation.

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

The article is from October 2021 so hardly current and charities that help blind people or those with learning disabilities are hardly vanity projects. These are the ones threatened with closure or scaling down on the good work they do. Very sad situation.

These vanity projects were decided by the EU, perhaps our government feels they can spend the money better and have pledged to spend the same or more than the EU. If they fail to do that then it is a wonderful opportunity for the labour party to make hay over claims that never materialised, that would play a massive part in the next election debate. And that is exactly what I voted for, returning power to our electorate.         

Edited March 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Farrelli]

19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Why would it be now when the European fund is still in operation and the government will switch over to UKSPF fund as the EU fund tails off. 

Many have already stopped receiving EU funds as it was a staggered process. Some will be funded until the end of this year but many are now having to close as the replacement funds are not there or much reduced. 

[Farrelli]

2 hours ago, Farrelli said:

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/30/uk-ministers-pledged-to-match-eu-spending-after-brexit-hows-that-going
 

Mounts, read the article. These are not vanity projects. They are mostly charitable organisations serving poor areas which previously did amazing work for vulnerable people. 

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Many have already stopped receiving EU funds as it was a staggered process. Some will be funded until the end of this year but many are now having to close as the replacement funds are not there or much reduced. 

The government might think that other projects/funding are more important, if the overall spend remains the same or as they have stated more and the government have assessed who gets what in a fair and even manner based on need then so be it, and yes it is sad if some good causes get less but we are not living in a utopian world.  

Edited March 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Farrelli]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The government might think that other projects/funding are more important, if the overall spend remains the same or as they have stated more and the government have assessed who gets what in a fair and even manner based on need then so be it, and yes it is sad if some good causes get less but we are not living in a utopian world.  

Really? Bloody hell🙈😀 Wales is £772 million down on EU funds it used to receive.  The most vulnerable people are the ones who will suffer and you are talking as if there is some grand plan on more deserving projects. What other projects?😀

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Really? Bloody hell🙈😀 Wales is £772 million down on EU funds it used to receive.  The most vulnerable people are the ones who will suffer and you are talking as if there is some grand plan on more deserving projects. What other projects?😀

HS2

[Farrelli]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

HS2

That has got bollocks all to do with Wales

[Farrelli]

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

HS2

There are some Tory peers who have taken millions of public money. Perhaps Wales has paid the price and that is considered a more deserving cause. After all, it’s only some blind folk in Merthyr.

[lobbypond]

Starmer's "Learning to say Auf Wiedersehen, Pet in Polish" comment from the other day was a odd one, is David Brent writing these knee slappers?

[tyldesley_white]

44 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Really? Bloody hell🙈😀 Wales is £772 million down on EU funds it used to receive.  The most vulnerable people are the ones who will suffer and you are talking as if there is some grand plan on more deserving projects. What other projects?😀

PPE 

[Traf]

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htm

[Sweep]

14 minutes ago, Traf said:

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htm

I've gone through the list, and "Twatspatula" isn't on it, and that's what I identify as, usually