Politics

[Ani]

17 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Conservative in Dutch politics isn’t the same as in the UK. Much the same as Democrats in the US are not the same as the Labour Party here. 

Centre right Liberal , like the Conservatives used to be. 

[BobyBrno]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

There was no need to be ageist

Don’t mistake experience for an ism. I’m sure you know more now than you did 10 years ago. In 10 years you’ll know more and in another…… well you know the rest. 👍

[Not in Crawley]

Know your place Spider 😂

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Know your place Spider 😂

😉

[Zico]

4 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

It ain’t about policies. He hasn’t even formed a government. It’s about the vote. As Mounts said, a previously Liberal country voted in a right wing populist party. Holland isn’t alone. 

They aren't 

Brexit, trump, bolsanaro and that new Argentine bloke show folk are more than happy to vote for right wing populism in the hope things will change

It never seems to go anywhere though or solve any of the problems, in those cases anyway

Not the Argentine guy obviously, he's only just starting, let's see how they got on if he manages to legalise the sake of human organs

 

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

They aren't 

Brexit, trump, bolsanaro and that new Argentine bloke show folk are more than happy to vote for right wing populism in the hope things will change

It never seems to go anywhere though or solve any of the problems, in those cases anyway

Not the Argentine guy obviously, he's only just starting, let's see how they got on if he manages to legalise the sake of human organs

 

We were talking about Europe. 

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

We were talking about Europe. 

When was the last time a strong right wing government was successful in Europe?

[BobyBrno]

Just now, Spider said:

When was the last time a strong right wing government was successful in Europe?

Prior to 1939 of after?

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Prior to 1939 of after?

Why 1939?

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Why 1939?

Because that was the year that changed the political and economic landscape of Europe. What year do you want to start from?

[Spider]

14 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Because that was the year that changed the political and economic landscape of Europe. What year do you want to start from?

Let’s say 100 years. Nice round number.

And whilst I fully understand that this is entirely subjective based on the political views of the individual commenting at the time, can we objectively say a strong right wing government has succeeded in Europe in that time?

Obviously, I’m far too young to offer an opinion based on much experience, I’m happy to base any views on historical sources that could be academically considered legitimate and largely unbiased.

Hitler made the trains run on time. Starter for ten.

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Let’s say 100 years. Nice round number.

And whilst I fully understand that this is entirely subjective based on the political views of the individual commenting at the time, can we objectively say a strong right wing government has succeeded in Europe in that time?

Obviously, I’m far too young to offer an opinion based on much experience, I’m happy to base any views on historical sources that could be academically considered legitimate and largely unbiased.

Hitler made the trains run on time. Starter for ten.

Well in that case, most right wing governments in Europe over the last 100 years have been successful. Most left wing governments in Europe haven’t. Hope that answers your initial question.👍

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Well in that case, most right wing governments in Europe over the last 100 years have been successful. Most left wing governments in Europe haven’t. Hope that answers your initial question.👍

Which ones have been successful?

 

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Which ones have been successful?

 

It’s like Question Time on here tonight. 😅
All of them. Prove me wrong. 

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

It’s like Question Time on here tonight. 😅
All of them. Prove me wrong. 

You seem rather pleased about it.

Strange that you’ve said you usually vote for a left wing party.

full of surprises that you’d back the left despite its piss poor record.

Still, it’s all subjective.

I’d be reluctant to claim the third Reich as successful, but a braver man would say they did well for ten years.

 

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

You seem rather pleased about it.

Strange that you’ve said you usually vote for a left wing party.

full of surprises that you’d back the left despite its piss poor record.

Still, it’s all subjective.

I’d be reluctant to claim the third Reich as successful, but a braver man would say they did well for ten years.

 

Absolute utter shite😅😅

Another thread to avoid. 

 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Absolute utter shite😅😅

Another thread to avoid. 

 

You were moaning that the conversation was drifting away from Europe.

A conversation about right wing governments.

If you’re struggling with it, don’t blame me 😇

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Absolute utter shite😅😅

Another thread to avoid. 

What a snowflake 😂

[Zico]

52 minutes ago, Spider said:

When was the last time a strong right wing government was successful in Europe?

Italy 

I missed them off my list 

Got voted in and gone after the lesbian's 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

Italy 

I missed them off my list 

Got voted in and gone after the lesbian's 

I may need to explain to my elders and betters

By successful, I meant was their term in office what could reasonably be called a success.

Not simply being voted in. Convincing folk to vote for you can be quite different to what happens next.

If you know what I mean nudge nudge

[Zico]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

We were talking about Europe. 

Why stop there? It's happening the world over it would seem 

Everyone is pissed off so looks to the right

Same old story the world over

[Zico]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

I may need to explain to my elders and betters

By successful, I meant was their term in office what could reasonably be called a success.

Not simply being voted in. Convincing folk to vote for you can be quite different to what happens next.

If you know what I mean nudge nudge

I guess it depends what you believe in 

Hard pressed to think of any government anywhere where the majority of the population would consider them to have been a success 

Except North Korea

 

[BobyBrno]

Just now, Zico said:

Why stop there? It's happening the world over it would seem 

Everyone is pissed off so looks to the right

Same old story

 

If you want to bring Argentina into it, look at their economy. Then come back and say it’s the same old story. 
 

[Zico]

9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

 

If you want to bring Argentina into it, look at their economy. Then come back and say it’s the same old story. 
 

It is though 

Desperate times desperate measures 

Why folk feel desperate is a different matter

And that's when right wing populism makes it move

[Casino]

6 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

In Horwich it may be meaningless, certainly complex. In Europe it’s huge. 

Its really not

Nobody will do a deal with him

Hes on the peripheries of the game

He appeals to right wing loons in rural areas who are the result of centuries of sister shagging

Like UK brexiteers

Hes an irrelevance in Amsterdam