Site Supporter Spider Posted November 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zico said: and Northern Ireland Belongs to the EU Quote
green genie Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Spider said: Belongs to the EU Can we still deport Celtic fans there? Those that get through the Faslane target practice range, that is Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Sweep said: Quite rightly as well these shitty little enclaves like the Falklands and Gibraltar should be given back to those who they belong to 2 hours ago, Zico said: and Northern Ireland And Guernsey, Jersey,  Alderney, Sark, Herm. And Isle of Man, I’m fairly sure Vikings won Man fair and square. Shall we do a deal throw Scotland in? Quote
Sweep Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, MickyD said: And Guernsey, Jersey,  Alderney, Sark, Herm. And Isle of Man, I’m fairly sure Vikings won Man fair and square. Shall we do a deal throw Scotland in? Yes, and Liverpool Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 20, 2023 "I'm not saying my mother-in-law is fat, but when she bends over..." Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: this is how I imagine a BBQ round Boltys ends up after a few ciders.  This will be one of those videos where the subtitles are edited for decades after this. Similar to the film where Hitler has a meltdown at the end of the war. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 4 hours ago, MickyD said: And Guernsey, Jersey,  Alderney, Sark, Herm. And Isle of Man, I’m fairly sure Vikings won Man fair and square. Shall we do a deal throw Scotland in? Can people stop talking about the 'vikings' without any understanding of their history or the Anglo Saxons? The basic idiocy makes my teeth itch. Read a fucking history book - there are loads. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted November 21, 2023 Moderators Posted November 21, 2023 And this isnt the only one Theyre still buying proprties for HS2 https://inews.co.uk/news/government-bought-house-hs2-line-rishi-sunak-cancelled-2667199 How very odd  Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 21, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: Can people stop talking about the 'vikings' without any understanding of their history or the Anglo Saxons? The basic idiocy makes my teeth itch. Read a fucking history book - there are loads. OMG, Wandersways poster posts an unfactual joke. Shock, horror! Anyway. Educate me. Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 21, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 21, 2023 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Isle_of_Man#:~:text=Between about AD 800 and,the powerful Earls of Orkney.  Anyway, it seems Isle of Man was invaded by Norwegian Vikings in a 15 year period between 800-815 AD so I’m not sure where the meltdown about Viking history came from. Quote
Nowack Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 I`m guessing its to do with the fact that Vikings are not a people or a tribe etc. Quote
Sweep Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nowack said: I`m guessing its to do with the fact that Vikings are not a people or a tribe etc. that's what I assumed he was getting at Quote
SatanGreavsie Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Nowack said: I`m guessing its to do with the fact that Vikings are not a people or a tribe etc. Aye, Tony Curtis looked nowt like Kirk Douglas! Fun fact - the latter was born Issur Danielovitch but changed his name to the capital of the IOM as he was a big fan of the TT races. Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 21, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Nowack said: I`m guessing its to do with the fact that Vikings are not a people or a tribe etc. Possibly not but years of acceptance of Viking being accepted and used to describe a member of a Scandinavian raiding party makes it ok for me to upset NiC by misusing the term. But because NiC called me out for being wrong I’ve ended up doing a tiny bit of research of my own. I’ve found this page but can’t actually see their terminology being any different to mine. https://theconversation.com/what-does-the-word-viking-really-mean-75647 Quote
royal white Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 (edited)  18 minutes ago, MickyD said: Possibly not but years of acceptance of Viking being accepted and used to describe a member of a Scandinavian raiding party makes it ok for me to upset NiC by misusing the term. But because NiC called me out for being wrong I’ve ended up doing a tiny bit of research of my own. I’ve found this page but can’t actually see their terminology being any different to mine. https://theconversation.com/what-does-the-word-viking-really-mean-75647 Ffs a tiny bit of research is no good. Go and read a book. 🙄😉 Edited November 21, 2023 by royal white Quote
Not in Crawley Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, royal white said: Educate you’re Ffs a tiny bit of research is no good. Go and read a book. 🙄😉 Quite right. I've got River Kings on order for xmas, can't wait to get stuck into it. https://www.waterstones.com/book/river-kings/cat-jarman/9780008353117 Cat Jarman is one of my favourite historians, her eposiodes on Gone Medieval are really interesting. Quote
royal white Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Quite right. I've got River Kings on order for xmas, can't wait to get stuck into it. https://www.waterstones.com/book/river-kings/cat-jarman/9780008353117 Cat Jarman is one of my favourite historians, her eposiodes on Gone Medieval are really interesting. And what if Cats versions of events differs from other historians on the same topic? Who’s right and who’s wrong? Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 21, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, royal white said: And what if Cats versions of events differs from other historians on the same topic? Who’s right and who’s wrong? That’s a great point. When two historians give conflicting versions which one is right? Quote
royal white Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, MickyD said: That’s a great point. When two historians give conflicting versions which one is right? Obviously the one who wrote the book that NIC read. Quote
mickbrown Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, MickyD said: That’s a great point. When two historians give conflicting versions which one is right? The one that hasn’t made it up.   Quote
Not in Crawley Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, royal white said: And what if Cats versions of events differs from other historians on the same topic? Who’s right and who’s wrong? That's the great point of history, for examle someone like Hobsbawn or E.P Thompson and the CPGM historians group will differ in certain readings from say a Niall Ferguson. However Jarman's book isn't an arguement from a political readings/context - its a simply a telling of the facts, the fact is The Viking's were not just one homogenus group from Scandinavia. She's not saying there were Viking tribes in the middle east because she is left wing for example. Anyway, must go I'm in a recording studio with Mica Paris doing some filming. I know it's an illness 😉  Quote
Site Supporter fatolive Posted November 21, 2023 Site Supporter Posted November 21, 2023 On 20/11/2023 at 15:24, Zico said: and Northern Ireland https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/how-embarrassing-downing-street-included-irish-tricolour-emoji-in-post-about-northern-ireland/a1265009397.html   first the sea border and now this, Downing St making unionists have a complex again Quote
Moderators Casino Posted November 21, 2023 Moderators Posted November 21, 2023 it is a bit shit though dear god Quote
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