Politics

[Sweep]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

That’s true

They balance it so that their comments always argue in favour of the Tories.

Even though they don’t vote for them, honest.

To be fair, Bolty admits to being a Tory, and would happily vote for this shower of shit if he could. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

To be fair, Bolty admits to being a Tory, and would happily vote for this shower of shit if he could. 

Just the other day he said they're not Right Wing enough, and he'd vote for the Reform Party, or whatever they're called.

[Sweep]

13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Just the other day he said they're not Right Wing enough, and he'd vote for the Reform Party, or whatever they're called.

He's teasing. Nobody half sane would vote for that bunch of dicks, as we'll see at the up coming GE

[Spider]

The Tories are absolute wank right now.

Theyd be as well calling an election and putting themselves out of their own miserable ineptitude.

And they may well do that in the springtime. Just need to sort out a load of contracts for their mates first, then they can fuck off.

[L/H White]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

The Tories are absolute wank right now.

Theyd be as well calling an election and putting themselves out of their own miserable ineptitude.

And they may well do that in the springtime. Just need to sort out a load of contracts for their mates first, then they can fuck off.

January 

[Casino]

2025

[Farrelli]

Tories cut police numbers and removed funding for Youth and community centres. At the same time our prisons are full and rife with drug abuse and violence. The party of law and order.

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

To be fair, Bolty admits to being a Tory, and would happily vote for this shower of shit if he could. 

For the umpteenth time, if I could vote this time around it would be for Reform UK. As there is only a cigarette paper thickness in distance between Starmer's social democrats and Sunak's Conservative Light, it really doesn't make any difference which one of the duopoly you vote for this next time - until such time as the loony left wheedle their way into positions of influence and the ramble along the red road to ruin is recommenced.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

He's teasing. Nobody half sane would vote for that bunch of dicks, as we'll see at the up coming GE

No I am not and yes I would.

[Mounts Kipper]

I see you even the mild mannered Dutch patience has snapped, lurched to the right in desperation because of uncontrolled and ever growing immigration and exasperation with the clowns in Brussels.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Spider]

Thank GOD (or Nigel) Brexit sorted our borders out.

Taking. Back. Control.

 

[BobyBrno]

12 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I see you even the mild mannered Dutch patience has snapped, lurched to the right in desperation because of uncontrolled and ever growing immigration and exasperation with the clowns in Brussels.

Someone farts in the US and it’s a ten pager. A major electoral event like this in Europe and ……silence.  

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Someone farts in the US and it’s a ten pager. A major electoral event like this in Europe and ……silence.  

I think the rather complex nature of the Dutch Parliament renders this victory a bit meaningless.

Its certainly noteworthy

[Mounts Kipper]

3 hours ago, Spider said:

Thank GOD (or Nigel) Brexit sorted our borders out.

Taking. Back. Control.

 

The message is clear here in the UK and Europe, politicians fail to control immigration and the lurch to the right will continue. EU need to stop freedom of movement, reinstate hard borders and stricter rules on who is eligible to settle and even then caps must be put in place on how many folk can be allowed to settle each year. 

[Spider]

The election is definitely on the minds of the Tory MP’s

Chris Green can’t get the Facebook posts out fast enough all of a sudden.

He’s gone from the occasional snap of him stood on Westhoughton high street pointing at cars, to full essays about Gaza, potholes and community kinship.

He’d be better off updating his CV

 

[kent_white]

14 hours ago, bolty58 said:

For the umpteenth time, if I could vote this time around it would be for Reform UK. As there is only a cigarette paper thickness in distance between Starmer's social democrats and Sunak's Conservative Light, it really doesn't make any difference which one of the duopoly you vote for this next time - until such time as the loony left wheedle their way into positions of influence and the ramble along the red road to ruin is recommenced.

I went to a Reform UK conference at the Reebok, on my own and completely sober a couple of years back. Out if curiosity. The same way that you might drive closely past a deer that's been hit by a bus.

God it was grim. 

Like watching a warm up for a Jim Davidson show. I got to see Nigel Farage drinking a pint of shit bitter bitter and smoke a fag while some skivvy did his shoelaces up for him.

Whenever I'm down I think about that skivvy and think about how life is so bad. 

At least I think it was the Reform Party - they kept changing their names a lot around that time.

You know how they say you should go and watch people you don't necessarily agree with and see whether that chance change your mind. In this case I think you could have just watched a 2 minute party promo which they'd extended for an hour out to to allow Nige to get his fag breaks in. 

Rule, Britannia!

 

 

[BobyBrno]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

I think the rather complex nature of the Dutch Parliament renders this victory a bit meaningless.

Its certainly noteworthy

In Horwich it may be meaningless, certainly complex. In Europe it’s huge. 

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

In Horwich it may be meaningless, certainly complex. In Europe it’s huge. 

He won’t get any of his policies through

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

He won’t get any of his policies through

It ain’t about policies. He hasn’t even formed a government. It’s about the vote. As Mounts said, a previously Liberal country voted in a right wing populist party. Holland isn’t alone. 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It ain’t about policies. He hasn’t even formed a government. It’s about the vote. As Mounts said, a previously Liberal country voted in a right wing populist party. Holland isn’t alone. 

We’re likely to vote one out very soon.

Swings and roundabouts.

 

[BobyBrno]

Just now, Spider said:

We’re likely to vote one out very soon.

Swings and roundabouts.

 

Looks like it. Swings go one way then the other. I’ve seen more than you. Nothing changes. It’ll swing back again as always. 🤷‍♂️

[Ani]

I know fuck all about Dutch politics other than what I have read today on BBC. 
 

Anyone on the Left denying this is a shock is pretty deluded. The strange thing is that leading party before the vote was a Conservative candidate so it is not as though this is a sudden and massive swing from the predicted result. 

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

I know fuck all about Dutch politics other than what I have read today on BBC. 
 

Anyone on the Left denying this is a shock is pretty deluded. The strange thing is that leading party before the vote was a Conservative candidate so it is not as though this is a sudden and massive swing from the predicted result. 

Conservative in Dutch politics isn’t the same as in the UK. Much the same as Democrats in the US are not the same as the Labour Party here. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

23 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It ain’t about policies. He hasn’t even formed a government. It’s about the vote. As Mounts said, a previously Liberal country voted in a right wing populist party. Holland isn’t alone. 

Absolutely. Lessons to be learned all over.

Not saying it will happen, but it they were to go down the "leaving the EU" route, then that would see one of the three founding members leaving the project.

 

[Spider]

16 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Looks like it. Swings go one way then the other. I’ve seen more than you. Nothing changes. It’ll swing back again as always. 🤷‍♂️

There was no need to be ageist