3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

No, absolutely not. I was just about to send you a PM letting you know in case you were worried! She works for a different organisation - and she's patient facing too 👍

What a shame for them  😂

 

cheers mate 👍

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

When Trump swings the axe across all US public services, the "right" are wanking themselves blind.

Sir Keir hints at a little fat trimming in the wasteful NHS and suddenly the "right" are up in arms.

All very odd.

To be fair - I've not recieved an email telling me to justify my existence this week yet! Good job really as I've mainly been arguing with you lot on here! 😉😁

Just now, royal white said:

What a shame for them  😂

 

cheers mate 👍

😂😂😂 No problem mate! She is brill. One of the good ones! 👍

 

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

When Trump swings the axe across all US public services, the "right" are wanking themselves blind.

Sir Keir hints at a little fat trimming in the wasteful NHS and suddenly the "right" are up in arms.

All very odd.

Not sure who are ‘up in arms’. If anyone it’s the ones affected. I’d say the Right are probably wondering why they haven’t got a leader like Starmer who can get away with such savage cuts while some still fawn over him. All very odd. Maybe he's a plant and right wing himself. 🤷‍♂️

Little fat trimming? 🤔

15 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Not sure who are ‘up in arms’. If anyone it’s the ones affected. I’d say the Right are probably wondering why they haven’t got a leader like Starmer who can get away with such savage cuts while some still fawn over him. All very odd. Maybe he's a plant and right wing himself. 🤷‍♂️

Little fat trimming? 🤔

Right time to do it I guess with a large majority. 

A lot of this is to do with control - with direction on the NHS now coming directly from government rather than via a semi independent body. 

I actually think that's a good thing in principle as it improves accountability - and will help to speed changes up. The trouble is the fall out for all of those who end up being affected by the job losses that are going to come as a result. 

NHS Managers are a bit like football referees. Everyone moans about them but the game wouldn't run properly without them! 

42 minutes ago, Spider said:

When Trump swings the axe across all US public services, the "right" are wanking themselves blind.

Sir Keir hints at a little fat trimming in the wasteful NHS and suddenly the "right" are up in arms.

All very odd.

If reasonable cuts can be made then surely it’s a good thing. Theres a lot of our taxes being wasted if this can be stopped then happy days. 

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Right time to do it I guess with a large majority. 

A lot of this is to do with control - with direction on the NHS now coming directly from government rather than via a semi independent body. 

I actually think that's a good thing in principle as it improves accountability - and will help to speed changes up. The trouble is the fall out for all of those who end up being affected by the job losses that are going to come as a result. 

NHS Managers are a bit like football referees. Everyone moans about them but the game wouldn't run properly without them! 

A majority of seats but not majority voter support.

I’d say that most of the previous digs at the so called ‘waste’ in the NHS (main body or quango) came from those on the right so it’s a bit of a ‘blindside’ stroke, to quote your mate. That is surprising. Be interesting and for some, painful to see what welfare cuts are coming. I thought they were going to tax the rich? 

 

24 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I thought they were going to tax the rich? 
 

They are.

 

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They are.

 

😅 How much have they raised? To the nearest £billion.

Edit. You scoured the internet and that’s the best you can come up with. 😊

Edited March 13, 20251 yr by BobyBrno

10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

😅 How much have they raised? To the nearest £billion.

Edit. You scoured the internet and that’s the best you can come up with. 😊

"Scoured the internet" 😂 

Most of these measures haven't kicked in yet. Give it time, BobyBalance.

Meeting went as expected. Has anybody got any jobs going? 

22 minutes ago, Cheese said:

"Scoured the internet" 😂 

Most of these measures haven't kicked in yet. Give it time, BobyBalance.

Won’t be many to tax soon. 

https://www.cityam.com/millionaires-leave-britain-in-record-numbers-since-labour-took-power/

9 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Meeting went as expected. Has anybody got any jobs going? 

I seriously hope it’s not as bad as you’re suggesting.
If it’s any consolation, I had a meeting in Olomouc, Czechia in 1999. I looked at the computer of the director next to me and it said EU loan, 2 million Euro. Sale of Hick Hargreaves £8 million to fund the transfer from Bolton to CZ.

That was May. I left in the December. I was 45. You know what I did after that. 
 

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I seriously hope it’s not as bad as you’re suggesting.
If it’s any consolation, I had a meeting in Olomouc, Czechia in 1999. I looked at the computer of the director next to me and it said EU loan, 2 million Euro. Sale of Hick Hargreaves £8 million to fund the transfer from Bolton to CZ.

That was May. I left in the December. I was 45. You know what I did after that. 
 

Thanks mate. Predicted 50% reduction in our headcount is what we're being told. And we've only just started to get back on track after being put through all this 2 years ago. It's a cruel way to treat people. 

I can just about cope with it if it ends up being for the greater good - but it's not going to do our mental health any favours while it sorts itself out. And whoever is left with a job - it means another couple of years of messing around internally instead of concentrating on what we joined the NHS to do - which is to (hopefully) make people's lives better. 

Worrying times in the Kent household. 

29 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Won’t be many to tax soon. 

https://www.cityam.com/millionaires-leave-britain-in-record-numbers-since-labour-took-power/

#patriots

 

Anyway, you just questioned why they're not taxing the rich? Now you're pointing out the rich are leaving because they're being taxed too much. 🤦‍♂️

Edited March 13, 20251 yr by Cheese

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

#patriots

 

Anyway, you just questioned why they're not taxing the rich? Now you're pointing out the rich are leaving because they're being taxed too much. 🤦‍♂️

You’ve not read it have you?

How much have they raised by taxing the rich?

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Right time to do it I guess with a large majority. 

A lot of this is to do with control - with direction on the NHS now coming directly from government rather than via a semi independent body. 

I actually think that's a good thing in principle as it improves accountability - and will help to speed changes up. The trouble is the fall out for all of those who end up being affected by the job losses that are going to come as a result. 

NHS Managers are a bit like football referees. Everyone moans about them but the game wouldn't run properly without them! 

🎯 sound assessment.

Doubt I'd be as philosophical as you if I was in your boat. 

This is the reality of your 6th form socialist politics Fromage. It never ends well and we will all be paying for it for years to come. 
Maybe these boat people will take up the slack.
 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reeves-labour-tax-non-dom-millionaire-b2684803.html#

3 hours ago, kent_white said:

Don't forget that it's also doing more, for a greater number of people, who are living longer with lots of complicated co-existing conditions, and need access to increasingly expensive and sophisticated treatments. 

Not all of this money is going on DEI employees you know! 😁😉

Correct. 

Unfortunately, there are also problems within the managemant and also medical staff which need addressing. 

Clearly saying such is taboo, but its true.

Personal and anecdotal stories abound, and money alone won't change it.

Won't, and can't elaborate publicly. 

Not new, and been going on for years, and it will take a major change of approach to sort.

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not new, and been going on for years, and it will take a major change of approach to sort.

I agree. And I hope it works. Much as it isn't very pleasant being at the sharp end. 

FWIW - I think these cuts are too deep and too quick and come on the back of another restructure. 

But time will tell. I am flotsam and jestom in all this if truth be told. 

 

24 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

🎯 sound assessment.

Doubt I'd be as philosophical as you if I was in your boat. 

When. I worked at Hick’s, we pretty much had a reduction every year. We went from 750 when I joined to 220 when I left. We used to have a joke. 
“Are you going to the annual dance”?

“Which dance”?

“The annual redundance”

I guess you could call that philosophical but we always had an inkling due to market forces etc.

This will have been a big shock to those involved though without wanting to make a political point. The affect of job losses are the same whatever the industry you work in and the reasons why. 

6 hours ago, royal white said:

How long should we give him? 

Longer than he's had so far.

20 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Longer than he's had so far.

What? To criticise him? Even his own party are criticising him. I’m happy to go along with them. 

28 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

When. I worked at Hick’s, we pretty much had a reduction every year. We went from 750 when I joined to 220 when I left. We used to have a joke. 
“Are you going to the annual dance”?

“Which dance”?

“The annual redundance”

I guess you could call that philosophical but we always had an inkling due to market forces etc.

This will have been a big shock to those involved though without wanting to make a political point. The affect of job losses are the same whatever the industry you work in and the reasons why. 

And to be fair. The redundancy package for the NHS is pretty generous compared to most. I'm sat here doing the sums and trying to figure out if I could open a picture framing business. 

Licence to print bloody money that game! 😉😁

28 minutes ago, kent_white said:

And to be fair. The redundancy package for the NHS is pretty generous compared to most. I'm sat here doing the sums and trying to figure out if I could open a picture framing business. 

Licence to print bloody money that game! 😉😁

😅

And I was the cheapest (and best ) around.

Be prepared to work 7 days a week though. Especially at Christmas. 👍