Politics

[royal white]

Does this Mon agree with anything that the PM is doing? 
 

Damn Twitter feed of mine 
 

 

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Local politics maybe but regular readers will know that I’ve been a grudging admirer of the GM Mayor and his integrated transport policy. As a regular user of public transport in GM, it’s petty good. Next year, the trains will be added to the tap-and-go system.
 

“The system brings Greater Manchester into line with cities such as London, New York and Sydney in offering a multi-modal, integrated and capped payment system.” Burnham.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c757yne6q19o

Even I am a grudging admirer. He is certainly the best that shower of shit has anywhere within its ranks.

[bolty58]

Watching the bumbling Chancellor this morning. If ever there was a case for 'the best person for the job' selection process it must be her. Even more so than Grant Hanley for the centre of Scotlands defence.

Drives out the wealth creators then has the excruciating decision to have to make to attack her union paymasters. Delicious to watch and would normally be laudable. Anything which reduces the size of big government is praiseworthy but the back story here makes it so much better.

Still have to pinch myself that it is UK Labour looking for these reductions, NHS efficiencies etc. All required but of course being done early in their term before setting about the pork barreling to get their voters back onside around a year out from the next general election.

Wondering how long Herr Starmer will be patient with her? Until she has the inevitable breakdown/health problems?

[Dimron]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Watching the bumbling Chancellor this morning. If ever there was a case for 'the best person for the job' selection process it must be her. Even more so than Grant Hanley for the centre of Scotlands defence.

Drives out the wealth creators then has the excruciating decision to have to make to attack her union paymasters. Delicious to watch and would normally be laudable. Anything which reduces the size of big government is praiseworthy but the back story here makes it so much better.

Still have to pinch myself that it is UK Labour looking for these reductions, NHS efficiencies etc. All required but of course being done early in their term before setting about the pork barreling to get their voters back onside around a year out from the next general election.

Wondering how long Herr Starmer will be patient with her? Until she has the inevitable breakdown/health problems?

She talked the talk and now has to walk the walk. 

It now seems her CV wasn't as comprehensive as claimed... we've got a young "chancer" having a go but who else can do it... we've got a stagnant economy caused by zero productivity and a population who are over expectant regarding life styles. Unfortunately cutting back never stimulates growth.

[bolty58]

18 minutes ago, Dimron said:

never stimulates growth.

Two words entirely consistent with the Labour Party.

[deeane Koontz]

There's something proper dodgy about all this facial recognition and ai.

[Casino]

59 minutes ago, Dimron said:

She talked the talk and now has to walk the walk. 

It now seems her CV wasn't as comprehensive as claimed... we've got a young "chancer" having a go but who else can do it... we've got a stagnant economy caused by zero productivity and a population who are over expectant regarding life styles. Unfortunately cutting back never stimulates growth.

too many pensioners

[athywhite1958]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

too many pensioners

you will be one soon enough

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

too many pensioners

Put that with our over aspiring working age population who all want 48 inch tellies, latest electric cars, three holidays per year and to work from home... pretty toxic mix.

Over 13% of 16-24 year olds are not in employment, education or training, that's getting on towards 1 million... where has it all gone wrong?

 

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

too many pensioners

Reeled in a couple of dodderers there🎣

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Put that with our over aspiring working age population who all want 48 inch tellies, latest electric cars, three holidays per year and to work from home... pretty toxic mix.

Over 13% of 16-24 year olds are not in employment, education or training, that's getting on towards 1 million... where has it all gone wrong?

 

14 years of incompetence and neglect. 

[athywhite1958]

47 days left to work, not that I'm counting 😎

[Casino]

3 hours ago, Farrelli said:

Reeled in a couple of dodderers there🎣

Ill be there soon enough

Theres just not enough paying in to support our ageing population

And we dont breed quick enough for that to change

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

14 years of incompetence and neglect. 

Badenoch was moaning last week that we are going to be importing solar panels cos we dont make our own

Look, you daft cow, you shouldve perhaps been incentivising business to get on with it?

[frank_spencer]

22 minutes ago, Casino said:

Badenoch was moaning last week that we are going to be importing solar panels cos we dont make our own

Look, you daft cow, you shouldve perhaps been incentivising business to get on with it?

Wouldn't get specced on most government contracts anyway as the Chinese made ones will be cheaper in the upfront costs.

[Casino]

Doesnt have to be so

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Ani said:

14 years of incompetence and neglect. 

That's the Labour Party current 'go to' isn't it? Well done for falling into line.

Clearly not the case but, if it was correct, how did they get past the first term? Incompetent opposition? If so, isn't it good to see that a leopard does indeed never change its spots - even when they no longer are the opposition?

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, Casino said:

Badenoch was moaning last week that we are going to be importing solar panels cos we dont make our own

Look, you daft cow, you shouldve perhaps been incentivising business to get on with it?

The cows wear red rosettes you daft sod. Ask Spider.

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Wouldn't get specced on most government contracts anyway as the Chinese made ones will be cheaper in the upfront costs.

Might be the case but we at Bolty Towers went for Aleo. Brothers.

[Casino]

1 minute ago, bolty58 said:

That's the Labour Party current 'go to' isn't it? Well done for falling into line.

Clearly not the case but, if it was correct, how did they get past the first term? Incompetent opposition? If so, isn't it good to see that a leopard does indeed never change its spots - even when they no longer are the opposition?

They got past the first term because a lot of us didnt see how bad the tories had become

Theres plenty on here who 15 years ago wouldnt have seen themselves voting Labour

[bolty58]

Just now, Casino said:

They got past the first term because a lot of us didnt see how bad the tories had become

Theres plenty on here who 15 years ago wouldnt have seen themselves voting Labour

And the second term? How did they get past that? Just setting it up nicely for you to smash into the pocket.

[Ani]

17 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

That's the Labour Party current 'go to' isn't it? Well done for falling into line.

Clearly not the case but, if it was correct, how did they get past the first term? Incompetent opposition? If so, isn't it good to see that a leopard does indeed never change its spots - even when they no longer are the opposition?

The Tories had totally lost the plot you have acknowledged that. If you are asked the question how did the UK get to where it is today referring to last 14 years is pretty reasonable. 
 

Virtually every Tory minister has come out and said how they fucked up. 

Edited March 24, 2025 by Ani

[bolty58]

10 minutes ago, Ani said:

The Tories had totally lost the plot you have acknowledged that. If you are asked the question how did the UK get to where it is today referring to last 14 years is pretty reasonable. 
 

Virtually every Tory minister has come out and said how they fucked up. 

But not for the entire 14 years. You do see that? If it was for the entire 14, they wouldn't have got past five years would they?

Of course they ended up 'fucking up' as you put it. Wet lettuces don't come any wetter than Rishi Sunak.

I would suggest that you look at multi term governments in any democracy and it is always high time for a change after a long period in office if for no other reason just to keep the bastards honest.

In this particular case however, there is an underlying bitterness driving the constant carping and we all know what it is. That Conservative government gave the UK population the right to decide on whether or not they would like to stay part of a bureaucratic monolith and the answer was 'no'. Some will never get over it. Sic vita est.

[Ani]

5 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

But not for the entire 14 years. You do see that? If it was for the entire 14, they wouldn't have got past five years would they?

Of course they ended up 'fucking up' as you put it. Wet lettuces don't come any wetter than Rishi Sunak.

I would suggest that you look at multi term governments in any democracy and it is always high time for a change after a long period in office if for no other reason just to keep the bastards honest.

In this particular case however, there is an underlying bitterness driving the constant carping and we all know what it is. That Conservative government gave the UK population the right to decide on whether or not they would like to stay part of a bureaucratic monolith and the answer was 'no'. Some will never get over it. Sic vita est.

I agree that the Tories got worse as they went on but the problems pre dated Rishi. 
 

I would argue their internal weaknesses and power struggle that led to the Brexit vote highlighted this but accept others like you are happy we had the vote. But then you have to look at the absolute mess May and then Boris made of delivering it. 
 

However IMO one of the main reasons the Tories remained in power was the quality of the opposition. Sure one thing we would agree on was that Jeremy Corbyn was a major factor ? I did not vote Labour whilst he was leader and even after the last 14 years if he was still leader of the Labour Party I would not have voted for him in last GE. 

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Ani said:

However IMO one of the main reasons the Tories remained in power was the quality of the opposition. Sure one thing we would agree on was that Jeremy Corbyn was a major factor ? 

Absolutely. I'd have voted for Screaming Lord Sutch's party or probably any other before one led by him.