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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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    And there's me thinking that 'pensions are not a benefit' would be the most ridiculous thing I'd read today.  Never had anything given to you? Your generation were able to buy property on 3x an a

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Just now, Sweep said:

My taxes haven't changed in the slightest 🙂

Let joy be unconfined.

8 hours ago, Sweep said:

My taxes haven't changed in the slightest 🙂

Mine have

just got my new tax code for April and I’m better off.

 

9 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Mere teething problems. The building work continues in the background.

Onwards and upwards.

 

Teething problems.

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Fucking hell

Yes, Lowes a twat, but deary me

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

20% of Reforms MPs are suspended

20% prefer living in Dubai

20% have been convicted of beating women

20% have been caught on camera trying to pull off a fake door knock

20% of them are Nigel Farage 

 

Teething problems is all

37 minutes ago, Ani said:

20% of Reforms MPs are suspended

20% prefer living in Dubai

20% have been convicted of beating women

20% have been caught on camera trying to pull off a fake door knock

20% of them are Nigel Farage 

 

And this is why they'll never, fortunately, ever get a sniff of running the country........the sad thing I suppose is that it means it'll only ever be Labour or the Conservatives. 

1 hour ago, Ani said:

20% of Reforms MPs are suspended

20% prefer living in Dubai

20% have been convicted of beating women

20% have been caught on camera trying to pull off a fake door knock

20% of them are Nigel Farage 

 

Quietly getting on with business 😉

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Quietly getting on with business 😉

None is so blind as he who will not see. Look around Europe.

The mocking will just strengthen their base. Carry on chaps.

The trepidation is palpable.

13 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

None is so blind as he who will not see. Look around Europe.

The mocking will just strengthen their base. Carry on chaps.

The trepidation is palpable.

I'll start shitting myself if they get more than 5 MP's and at least 1 isn't a complete gobshite 😁

Like it or lump it I do think Reform have more than a foothold with the electorate. You only have to hear any public voxpop  on tv programmes to realise a significant  proportion of folks are fed up with the state of public services and the lack of attention they think labour and the tories give to improving the lives of themselves or their families.  I agree with Bolty (yes, really), that the main parties will ignore this at their peril.  If nothing changes I can see Reform making more significant inroads at local/general elections in the next 5 years. It’s always good to have someone to blame and Reform have got big dog whistles.

This would be a disaster though imho for the country, and take us down the path towards an intolerant, vindictive society without compassion as is happening across the Atlantic. A great place to live if you’re a rich bigot, not for the people genuinely voting for them out of misplaced hope.

So, given the Tories are unelectable atm, reliance has to be on Stamer et al continuing to quietly deliver on promises which will make a real difference to folks’ lives whilst addressing their concerns (esp immigration!). Importantly they also need to be vocal about progress so that folks know there is real change and hence no need to turn to Reform and all of its consequences.

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I don't think Reform give a shiny one about the state of public services.

17 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I don't think Reform give a shiny one about the state of public services.

If they can blame immigrants for it then yes anything more complex then no interest. 

As the yanks have found out apathy and mockery doesn't affect their base.

4 hours ago, Bertie said:

Like it or lump it I do think Reform have more than a foothold with the electorate. You only have to hear any public voxpop  on tv programmes to realise a significant  proportion of folks are fed up with the state of public services and the lack of attention they think labour and the tories give to improving the lives of themselves or their families.  I agree with Bolty (yes, really), that the main parties will ignore this at their peril.  If nothing changes I can see Reform making more significant inroads at local/general elections in the next 5 years. It’s always good to have someone to blame and Reform have got big dog whistles.

This would be a disaster though imho for the country, and take us down the path towards an intolerant, vindictive society without compassion as is happening across the Atlantic. A great place to live if you’re a rich bigot, not for the people genuinely voting for them out of misplaced hope.

So, given the Tories are unelectable atm, reliance has to be on Stamer et al continuing to quietly deliver on promises which will make a real difference to folks’ lives whilst addressing their concerns (esp immigration!). Importantly they also need to be vocal about progress so that folks know there is real change and hence no need to turn to Reform and all of its consequences.

Spot on, we do ignore the likes of Bolty at our peril. It's a reason I like this place, it does get me out of my own bubble and also the angry I felt towards the arrogance of those who thought the UK wouldn't vote for bexit who lived in London, had lovely rich families in the home counties and had no idea what has happened over the last 30 years in post industrial Britain.

But that does t mean you have to agree with isolationist anger, as it'll get you no where and parties like reform are just ticks on the skin of a bigger issue. Happy to feed on the illness but long term offering no cure.

However just shouting, 'you're wrong' isn't going to help. Which is why finally we have a government in place to make really horrible decisions - some I don't always agree with ideologically- but we've lost a lot to puritanical and populist politics. It's time for some unpopular decisions being made for the long time good by a sober and sensible government not in rock to the more rabid wings of their respective parties for the good of us, the citizens of this country.

8 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'll start shitting myself if they get more than 5 MP's and at least 1 isn't a complete gobshite 😁

Well I'm giving you ample warning well before 2029. You can get adult Pampers from your store at work can't you? 😉

Keep ridiculing. It helps the cause.

3 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

 It's time for some unpopular decisions being made for the long time good by a sober and sensible government not in rock to the more rabid wings of their respective parties for the good of us, the citizens of this country.

Absolutely. My worry is, will that be enough for such a Govt to be reelected and build some sort of legacy?  Every day we see lies stated as fact, smears thrown around and very little investigation or scrutiny of political statements and action. We see it regularly enough on here, never mind on X, Facebook etc 

I'm no fan of Starmer but he could single handedly rescue this country from becoming the basket case it's swiftly becoming and he'd still not get elected for a 2nd term because enough numpties will believe some fake AI video or nonsense in the msm.

17 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Absolutely. My worry is, will that be enough for such a Govt to be reelected and build some sort of legacy?  Every day we see lies stated as fact, smears thrown around and very little investigation or scrutiny of political statements and action. We see it regularly enough on here, never mind on X, Facebook etc 

I'm no fan of Starmer but he could single handedly rescue this country from becoming the basket case it's swiftly becoming and he'd still not get elected for a 2nd term because enough numpties will believe some fake AI video or nonsense in the msm.

We're in an fascinating time, almost post politics. I'm trying to try and look at this way, however difficult it is. 

But whatever, decent and good people still have to speak out against either overweight Aussies or Farnworth pensioners about what is happening with the so called 'leader of the free world'

Starmer seems to be turning his attention to the benefits system now. Claiming too many people are taking the piss and deep cuts are likely.

What’s not to like?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0kgpyz3mmpo

10 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Well I'm giving you ample warning well before 2029. You can get adult Pampers from your store at work can't you? 😉

Keep ridiculing. It helps the cause.

Ridicule is nothing to be scared of. 

10 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

We're in an fascinating time, almost post politics. I'm trying to try and look at this way, however difficult it is. 

But whatever, decent and good people still have to speak out against either overweight Aussies or Farnworth pensioners about what is happening with the so called 'leader of the free world'

😅Triggered!

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

😅Triggered!

What a soft arse he really is. Fattist jibes? :lol: New Labour.

I wonder if he polishes his winklepickers with that keffiyah yet?

28 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Ridicule is nothing to be scared of. 

Precisely. Look what it did for Trump. And Brexiteers.

"You aren't laughing now are you?".

3 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

What a soft arse he really is. Fattist jibes? :lol: New Labour.

I wonder if he polishes his winklepickers with that keffiyah yet?

He called RW a brick the other day😊 I got off lightly because he was at least accurate. Whatever happened to satire? Wit and repartee will never be the same.😉

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Precisely. Look what it did for Trump. And Brexiteers.

"You aren't laughing now are you?".

No. Nobody is. Because it's been an unmitigated disaster on both fronts. 

But I've long since realised that there's nothing I can do to influence folk or change the world. 

So in the meantime - I'll just have to get what little pleasure I can. I'll also take the piss out of the picture of them holding a fish which they will also inevitably be on their profile too! 😉

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