Politics

[DazBob]

23 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

He said he would reduce A&E waiting time, he said he would protect the pensioners, he said he would smash the gangs etc. etc.

He may well do.

Maybe you should be a bit more patient.

[Dimron]

12 minutes ago, DazBob said:

He may well do.

Maybe you should be a bit more patient.

Maybe he's just getting confused... Smash the Pensioners, Protect to Gangs and sort out his Arse from his Elbow

[royal white]

24 minutes ago, DazBob said:

He may well do.

Maybe you should be a bit more patient.

How long should we give him? 

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

How long should we give him? 

14 years seems fair

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Good mini speech by Starmer this morning. Actually tackling issues rather than moaning about problems.

Not quite so good if you're one of the ones being called into a consultation meeting at 3pm this afternoon. 

Although it does need sorting. The devil will (as ever) be in the detail. 

[BobyBrno]

35 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Not quite so good if you're one of the ones being called into a consultation meeting at 3pm this afternoon. 

Although it does need sorting. The devil will (as ever) be in the detail. 

If the chairman comes in with a chainsaw, be worried.

Seriously though mate, I hope you’ll be ok but of course when they talk about duplication and cuts, that usually means job losses for some. 10,000 according to Streeting. Hope things become clearer for you later. 

Edited March 13, 2025 by BobyBrno

[Spider]

Is the NHS badly run?

[royal white]

58 minutes ago, Spider said:

14 years seems fair

Does that include pandemics and wars or just a trouble free 14 year run? 

[royal white]

20 minutes ago, Spider said:

Is the NHS badly run?

According to many it’s never been in a worse state yet it’s had more money thrown at it than ever before. I’d say yes. 

[Spider]

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

Does that include pandemics and wars or just a trouble free 14 year run? 

Then it’s about time a PM gave it some attention

[Spider]

15 minutes ago, royal white said:

Does that include pandemics and wars or just a trouble free 14 year run? 

There’s a war on now.

14 years won’t be trouble free 😁

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Then it’s about time a PM gave it some attention

It needs sir Jim Radcliffe in there 

[Zico]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

How long should we give him? 

well he gets 5

then it's up to you if he gets more

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

well he gets 5

then it's up to you if he gets more

He gets 5 whether he does 5 is another matter. See the last 14 years. 

[Zico]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

He gets 5 whether he does 5 is another matter. See the last 14 years. 

I'll be amazed if he's not in charge in 5, but if he's not and is booted out because he's doing a terrible job like Johnson and Truss were, then that's fine by me

[kent_white]

59 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

If the chairman comes in with a chainsaw, be worried.

Seriously though mate, I hope you’ll be ok but of course when they talk about duplication and cuts, that usually means job losses for some. 10,000 according to Streeting. Hope things become clearer for you later. 

Thanks mate. 

Whichever way this pans out - it sounds like a lot of very good people are going to lose their jobs. Along with some not so good ones too of course. 

I am - once more caught in the political maelstrom! 😔

[kent_white]

34 minutes ago, royal white said:

According to many it’s never been in a worse state yet it’s had more money thrown at it than ever before. I’d say yes. 

Don't forget that it's also doing more, for a greater number of people, who are living longer with lots of complicated co-existing conditions, and need access to increasingly expensive and sophisticated treatments. 

Not all of this money is going on DEI employees you know! 😁😉

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Don't forget that it's also doing more, for a greater number of people, who are living longer with lots of complicated co-existing conditions, and need access to increasingly expensive and sophisticated treatments. 

Not all of this money is going on DEI employees you know! 😁😉

It's brown people abusing the system you know

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

It's brown people abusing the system you know

I strongly advocate against sunbed use! 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Not quite so good if you're one of the ones being called into a consultation meeting at 3pm this afternoon. 

Although it does need sorting. The devil will (as ever) be in the detail. 

I was talking about the civil service, in terms of looking realistically about under performance and making it more effective - not bigger.

As for NHS England - yes it looks like there will be significant job losses. Quite the statement of bold reform. Biggest change in a long time and a real blindside - not a murmur or a leak even with Pritchard announcing stepping down next month. I bet the unions are fuming at this moment. 

I do wonder if there are loads of people who don't realise NHS England isn't actually the NHS and totally lose their minds rather than a body created by Cameron in 2012.

[BobyBrno]

I doubt Keir will be bothered about a Farnworth Pensioner criticising some of his decisions. (just some on here😊) He’ll be more concerned about a rebellion in the Labour ranks about his decision to target pensioners, the forecast welfare cuts and now NHS England. 80 mps rebelling? 

[kent_white]

14 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I was talking about the civil service, in terms of looking realistically about under performance and making it more effective - not bigger.

As for NHS England - yes it looks like there will be significant job losses. Quite the statement of bold reform. Biggest change in a long time and a real blindside - not a murmur or a leak even with Pritchard announcing stepping down next month. I bet the unions are fuming at this moment. 

I do wonder if there are loads of people who don't realise NHS England isn't actually the NHS and totally lose their minds rather than a body created by Cameron in 2012.

It's wider than NHS England unfortunately. We're not part of NHS England but are part of the cull. 

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It's wider than NHS England unfortunately. We're not part of NHS England but are part of the cull. 

Do I have to tell our Maud when she gets home that she might be out of a job? 

[Spider]

When Trump swings the axe across all US public services, the "right" are wanking themselves blind.

Sir Keir hints at a little fat trimming in the wasteful NHS and suddenly the "right" are up in arms.

All very odd.

[kent_white]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Do I have to tell our Maud when she gets home that she might be out of a job? 

No, absolutely not. I was just about to send you a PM letting you know in case you were worried! She works for a different organisation - and she's patient facing too 👍