What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Makes sense, one way flight from Charles De Gaulle £15.99 on Easyjet, save a few grand and pay for accommodation to tide them over until they get a job, simple

Aye that'd be the way most folk would go about living in another country when you already live in a civilised one.

Unless you want everything for free and work cash in hand to cultivate a cannabis farm. 

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Firstly, the vast majority don't come to the UK.

As for the ones that do - a lot of them probably speak English and/or have relatives here. Or maybe they read our right-wing press that tells them they'll get a free house and car, and as many luxuries as they want?

Pretty sure most people seeking asylum throughout history have sent their adult males first. It would be a bit daft to send the 4 year old daughter.

The ROF in Chorley is now Buckshaw Village, housing hundreds of British families. It's ironic you think it should be populated by migrants instead.

Jesus wept.

 

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

To repeat

If you’ve successfully fled a war torn country and made it as far as a G7 country, that for me is where your journey should end.

I’m sympathetic to their plight but they shouldn’t be given a choice which country they go to. It’s not a fucking TUI brochure.

There are no wars in Albania or Vietnam

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Firstly, the vast majority don't come to the UK.

As for the ones that do - a lot of them probably speak English and/or have relatives here. Or maybe they read our right-wing press that tells them they'll get a free house and car, and as many luxuries as they want?

Pretty sure most people seeking asylum throughout history have sent their adult males first. It would be a bit daft to send the 4 year old daughter.

The ROF in Chorley is now Buckshaw Village, housing hundreds of British families. It's ironic you think it should be populated by migrants instead.

How many of those males have a family? There are statistics. 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

There are no wars in Albania or Vietnam

War isn't the only reason to flee somewhere.

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

How many of those males have a family? There are statistics. 

I would guess the vast majority of them have families, seeing as they exist. Unless you're saying they're a product of divine conception, which would layer on the irony even thicker.

Edited June 18, 2025Jun 18 by Cheese

4 hours ago, Ani said:

If you take the idea forward, each camp has a capacity of say 500 people and alongside that you a team of Home Office staff processing the Asylum Applications. So after 6 months everyone has a ‘stay’ or ‘go’ answer 

If stay they move into an Integration process if leave they are ‘sent home’ , at the moment they are just lost into the black economy. 

Not a bad ambition to work towards.

 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

War isn't the only reason to flee somewhere.

Name some more.

 

Just now, Cheese said:

I would guess the vast majority of them have families, seeing as they exist.

So you’d be happy for their parents, grand parents then wife (if they have one and children) and in-laws? So these figures arriving are just the tip of the iceberg. 😳

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Yeah that's where I'm at. 

I've said this on here before. I genuinely don't think anybody is racist on here. But I do think that everybody has a different tipping point when it comes to immigration. 

For some - that tipping point was years ago. For me - I'm nearing it now. For others or might be a few years down the line. 

It's still early days for Labour and understanding whether their strategy pays dividends - but I can't see things changing significantly unless we do something more radical. 

We do need to have an honest conversation about things though. Without the emotion. The fact is we do need skilled workers (and possibly none skilled workers) from abroad because we don't have enough babies as a country. But we need the checks and balances in place. 

And I think the mood in the country (in general) would be generally supportive of more radical action. But maybe that's just because I'm nearing my own personal tipping point. 

When’s Cheese’s tipping point ? 😄

These fast track processing centres are a good idea. Though I don’t understand TMJs sadistic fantasy of sending them to the far north. It’s weird to want to treat them badly when they’re here, especially as some will deserve to stay. Just get to a decision & process as soon as possible.

You still need to do something about the gangs though. Because people will still come & integrate into the black market economy. And sites like this will push more people into it which won’t make the problem go away. 

 

15 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Name some more.

Religious persecution, extreme poverty, environmental disasters, climate change, civil unrest, state-sponsored oppression of minority groups, famine, drought. It's happened since the dawn of man.

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4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Someone needs to let the Columbian Government, DEA, FBI, Interpol, and and every criminal network investigatory body on planet earth we have sold the war on drugs and criminal network that surrounds it. All on the mighty Wanderersways.

Just prosecute those buying it and it's job done.

Nice one lads

Crikey you’ve completely missed the point that was being made

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

So you’d be happy for their parents, grand parents then wife (if they have one and children) and in-laws? So these figures arriving are just the tip of the iceberg. 😳

Not entirely sure what that garbled sentence was supposed to mean, but I would be neither happy nor sad about any of it. They go through a process, and are either given asylum or deported.

Last time I went through Piccadilly gardens a couple of weeks ago on a Friday evening I've never seen do many Uber eats and deliveroo cyclists just hanging around waiting for a gig 

Reckon at least 30 if not more

All definitely immigrants 

Plenty work going it seems once they get here and plenty seem to want to do it

Just saying

Just now, Cheese said:

Not entirely sure what that garbled sentence was supposed to mean, but I would be neither happy nor sad about any of it. They go through a process, and are either given asylum or deported.

There were two sentences. Which one? Are you also including the parenthetical phrase?

1 minute ago, Zico said:

Last time I went through Piccadilly gardens a couple of weeks ago on a Friday evening I've never seen do many Uber eats and deliveroo cyclists just hanging around waiting for a gig 

Reckon at least 30 if not more

All definitely immigrants 

Plenty work going it seems once they get here and plenty seem to want to do it

Just saying

DID YOU ASK THEM ALL IF THEY WERE IMMIGRANTS?

(Cheese is busy)

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

When’s Cheese’s tipping point ? 😄

These fast track processing centres are a good idea. Though I don’t understand TMJs sadistic fantasy of sending them to the far north. It’s weird to want to treat them badly when they’re here, especially as some will deserve to stay. Just get to a decision & process as soon as possible.

You still need to do something about the gangs though. Because people will still come & integrate into the black market economy. And sites like this will push more people into it which won’t make the problem go away. 

TMGJ won't be complaining when one of them is emptying his bedpan and changing his bedsheets. Or maybe he will? There are a lot of that type about.

Just now, Cheese said:

TMGJ won't be complaining when one of them is emptying his bedpan and changing his bedsheets. Or maybe he will? There are a lot of that type about.

Are all these boat people Carers?

 

1 minute ago, Spider said:

DID YOU ASK THEM ALL IF THEY WERE IMMIGRANTS?

(Cheese is busy)

Who cares? If they're doing a job that clearly has a demand (mainly from fat Gammons sat at home watching GBNews), why does anyone give a fuck?

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Are all these boat people Carers?

No, of course not. Are they all drug dealing rapists?

Just now, Cheese said:

Who cares? If they're doing a job that clearly has a demand (mainly from fat Gammons sat at home watching GBNews), why does anyone give a fuck?

I’m firmly in the centre ground on most things, and I’m not a “shoot them out of the water” type either.

but

I ask again, why travel through several g7 countries, at great risk and expense, to get to the uk? What does it offer that France doesn’t?

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Religious persecution, extreme poverty, environmental disasters, climate change, civil unrest, state-sponsored oppression of minority groups, famine, drought. It's happened since the dawn of man.

So all 2k of those last arrivals are facing all of that?

And they still found the cash to pay a smuggling gang?

Yikes.

France sounds bloody awfull btw. 

And I'm never going to Albania.

 

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13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Crikey you’ve completely missed the point that was being made

No i haven't. 

Just now, Spider said:

I’m firmly in the centre ground on most things, and I’m not a “shoot them out of the water” type either.

but

I ask again, why travel through several g7 countries, at great risk and expense, to get to the uk? What does it offer that France doesn’t?

England. That elite land of milk and honey that we've all been singing about for a thousand years, after raiding the rest of the planet.

And again, the vast majority don't come to us anyway.

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

So all 2k of those last arrivals are facing all of that?

And they still found the cash to pay a smuggling gang?

Yikes.

Not what I said at all, you little tinker. You asked for other reasons people seek asylum. I didn't say they were all facing those things.