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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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2 minutes ago, Ani said:

It is a nonsense argument people are using, but let’s pretend it is nt

Possession of class drugs for personal use is a criminal offence 

https://mcgeemcgeeagarlaw.co.uk/blog/possession-of-class-a-drugs-first-offence/

So if people want equate the two they arguing that coming here via gang is a criminal offence and so they should be prosecuted. 

Typical cheese. Arguing his own point which is wrong 

Interestingly, following another u-turn the Weathersfield camp is now going to be expanded, not closed.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-accommodation-wethersfield/wethersfield-factsheet

Strangely, it operates in pretty much the exact way I was describing. Education, health care provided. Not at all bad for folk fleeing war torn places and persecution. 

Security people and police involved to protect the local community.

Rather than allowing freedom to come and go, keeping them locked in would allay fears, and also offer potential cost savings in keeping tabs on them.

Free up the hotels so that they can get back to contributing to the economy, and re-employ those workers that have lost their jobs. Not difficult.

Build a wall. A big beautiful wall in Kent. Keep them all down there and get them working on farms. New farms, big beautiful farms. It is the garden of England. Sorted. 

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10 minutes ago, Ani said:

Just make is part of our formal asylum processing system and right the law to make it happen. People will say the ECHR will stop it, but properly thought through and ‘fair’ legislation should be allowed. 
 

The places they are kept will have to be humane but surely better than a hostel the locals want to burn down ? 

Aye 

can see it being a better solution 

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye all this down to some lads buying a bag of bosh on a Friday night. 

 

Not what I’m saying mate

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

I don’t know, but if you were fleeing a war zone/persecution  and made your way to England would you be upset about being put up in a holding facility whilst your application is processed? A facility where you will be fed, clothed, have access to a gym, internet access etc etc etc. it’s hardly fkin Auschwitz is it. 

There are no legal issues with using hotels.

The only overall issue is allowing unknown people freedom to move about.

If some lawyer or ECHR type says it can't be done, then tell them it is being done, and ignore their rulings. Just like many others members do fairly regularly. 

 

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Build a wall. A big beautiful wall in Kent. Keep them all down there and get them working on farms. New farms, big beautiful farms. It is the garden of England. Sorted. 

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Rotate that wall 90 degrees clockwise and you’ll get a pat on the back from Nigel 

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Interestingly, following another u-turn the Weathersfield camp is now going to be expanded, not closed.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-accommodation-wethersfield/wethersfield-factsheet

Strangely, it operates in pretty much the exact way I was describing. Education, health care provided. Not at all bad for folk fleeing war torn places and persecution. 

Security people and police involved to protect the local community.

Rather than allowing freedom to come and go, keeping them locked in would allay fears, and also offer potential cost savings in keeping tabs on them.

Free up the hotels so that they can get back to contributing to the economy, and re-employ those workers that have lost their jobs. Not difficult.

Again this is half a story, it is being temporarily extended as people are shifted from more expensive hotels. The longer term plan is to still close it. I agree with increased use of these btw. 

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is buying cocaine legal now?

Is it legal to cross the channel & pay people smugglers ?

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

I don’t know, but if you were fleeing a war zone/persecution  and made your way to England would you be upset about being put up in a holding facility whilst your application is processed? A facility where you will be fed, clothed, have access to a gym, internet access etc etc etc. it’s hardly fkin Auschwitz is it. 

Aye 👍

It definitely isn’t the same

12 minutes ago, Ani said:

Coming here illegally is.

The lack of legal routes needs to be addressed as well. 

There's no such thing as 'coming here illegally'. The legality of arrivals is only determined after processing.

Someone needs to let the Columbian Government, DEA, FBI, Interpol, and and every criminal network investigatory body on planet earth we have sold the war on drugs and criminal network that surrounds it. All on the mighty Wanderersways.

Just prosecute those buying it and it's job done.

Nice one lads :D

17 minutes ago, Ani said:

It is a nonsense argument people are using, but let’s pretend it is nt

Possession of class drugs for personal use is a criminal offence 

https://mcgeemcgeeagarlaw.co.uk/blog/possession-of-class-a-drugs-first-offence/

So if people want equate the two they arguing that coming here via gang is a criminal offence and so they should be prosecuted. 

Sailing across the channel by small boat is not a criminal offence.

A lot of you on here are chatting away and know fuck all / live far too away from it. The controlled asylum link places are as bad as putting them in hotels. I currently have 15 ish large men loitering around my house. They may be good, may be bad, one this is certain though it’s not families and has stopped being families for a while. 
 

we have riot vans here multiple nights a week responding to issues where it is deemed they need to send the matrix police who are the ones with the guns. 
 

Folk buy drugs (weed is the biggest in the uk). You don’t get asylum seekers selling here. 
 

the process needs sorting. It needs improving. If you misbehave you should be out. As I’ve mentioned before we had a few vehicles written off here because a male had an “episode” he was returned here the following evening. These people need removing. Why should people be at risk of random attacks from people claiming asylum.

 

we have enough lunatics who can attack you who are home grown. These people also need locking away but sadly everyone is fine with it until you are attacked and then they remove folk. “On our radar” should mean some cunt gets prison for allowing it to happen 

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye 

can see it being a better solution 

If you take the idea forward, each camp has a capacity of say 500 people and alongside that you a team of Home Office staff processing the Asylum Applications. So after 6 months everyone has a ‘stay’ or ‘go’ answer 

If stay they move into an Integration process if leave they are ‘sent home’ , at the moment they are just lost into the black economy. 

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Sailing across the channel by small boat is not a criminal offence.

As usual you have offered 0 positive solutions, pretty much highlights why you are part of the problem.

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

If you take the idea forward, each camp has a capacity of say 500 people and alongside that you a team of Home Office staff processing the Asylum Applications. So after 6 months everyone has a ‘stay’ or ‘go’ answer 

If stay they move into an Integration process if leave they are ‘sent home’ , at the moment they are just lost into the black economy. 

All working for Deliveroo and Uber eats here. Even lock their bikes up at the center 🤦‍♂️

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

If you take the idea forward, each camp has a capacity of say 500 people and alongside that you a team of Home Office staff processing the Asylum Applications. So after 6 months everyone has a ‘stay’ or ‘go’ answer 

If stay they move into an Integration process if leave they are ‘sent home’ , at the moment they are just lost into the black economy. 

If the camps have a capacity of 500, we would need 3 more at least just to accommodate the ones that arrived in the last few days. Thats the scale of the problem. 

What do you do with someone who's got no identification and refused asylum? Where can we send them to?

Also part of the issue that needs sorting is people being granted asylum then being dumped by the folk who have been paid to house them like serco. Quite often bagged and shipped off to random gaffs all over. Leaving them isolated and causing further issues. Some even get left to the streets whilst the process goes to the next stage 

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

As usual you have offered 0 positive solutions, pretty much highlights why you are part of the problem.

I doubt we're going to solve the problem on here mate.

Can't we just have a processing centre on the Isle of White? 

Or Jersey or something? 

Just now, Cheese said:

I doubt we're going to solve the problem on here mate.

IDK. We managed to sort Israel and Palestine and Brexit easily enough 😁

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

If the camps have a capacity of 500, we would need 3 more at least just to accommodate the ones that arrived in the last few days. Thats the scale of the problem. 

No denying that but given ‘stop the boats’ and ‘smash the gangs’ are proving equally ineffective, we need to also focus on the thing we can influence easiest which is processing applications and helping integrate those that are staying.

Stopping the arrivals needs to be addressed but nothing so far has seemed to work 

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

What do you do with someone who's got no identification and refused asylum? Where can we send them to?

A sealed camp, where they will be allowed to work for food. Arbeit Macht Frie.

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