What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

37 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'm not sure it's an individuals job to put a refugee up in their house (admirable as that might be). It's the state's responsibility given the international conventions it's signed up to. 

For example 

Article 31 of the 1951 Refugee Convention to which we are a signatory states that "people fleeing persecution may have to use irregular means in order to escape and claim asylum in another country" 

it also prohibits countries from imposing......

"Penalties on asylum refugees who entered illegally in search of asylum if they present themselves without delay" which you could argue might help in some circumstances.

And with regard to @Spider and the G7 country idea......

"There is no such thing as an 'illegal' or 'bogus' person seeking asylum" and "anybody has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the convention and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim". 

I'm not saying this is right or wrong - but these are some of the terms we are currently bound by. 

This is the tricky part for many. People crossing the channel are entering illegally. Then as soon as they say they’re applying for asylum they’re legal. 

Just now, royal white said:

This is the tricky part for many. People crossing the channel are entering illegally. Then as soon as they say they’re applying for asylum they’re legal. 

That's the thing. Strictly speaking and according to the convention we signed up to - boat crossings without documentation or agreement is classed as an 'irregular' or 'unauthorised' entry, but not illegal per se. 

So it's a nuanced legal area - and presumably we'd need to withdraw from the convention in order to make it illegal under British law?

Again - I'm not making a judgement either way here. Just looking at what our current obligations are. 

10 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

There will be a tiny illegible graph any day now.

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Who would like an asylum centre, hotel or HMO filled with Asylum seekers put on to their street?

Honest answers only

Waiting....

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Who would like an asylum centre, hotel or HMO filled with Asylum seekers put on to their street?

Honest answers only

"Like" would be the wrong word. I definitely wouldn't fly into a rage and start panicking because there's some new brown faces knocking about. I wouldn't "like" a family of Manchester United supporting chavs moving in next door either, but it's not really any of my business, and they might be perfectly pleasant once you get to know them.

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4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Waiting....

It is a pointless question mate. 
 

I want to eat meat but do not want a slaughter house on my street

I want refugees to be treated with decency and respect, processed and then either integrated or fucked off.

We are still not processing them quickly enough, so they are sat in hotels and hostels with locals trying to burn them out.

Something needs to change. 

19 minutes ago, Cheese said:

"Like" would be the wrong word. I definitely wouldn't fly into a rage and start panicking because there's some new brown faces knocking about. I wouldn't "like" a family of Manchester United supporting chavs moving in next door either, but it's not really any of my business, and they might be perfectly pleasant once you get to know them.

What’s your obsession with brown people? It’s weird 

25 minutes ago, Cheese said:

"Like" would be the wrong word. I definitely wouldn't fly into a rage and start panicking because there's some new brown faces knocking about. I wouldn't "like" a family of Manchester United supporting chavs moving in next door either, but it's not really any of my business, and they might be perfectly pleasant once you get to know them.

That's a no then. All with a sprinkle of whataboutry too.

Lovely stuff.

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

That's a no then. All with a sprinkle of whataboutry too.

Lovely stuff.

It's not a "no" at all, because it's a ridiculous, loaded question. You don't have to "like" something to accept it's needed. What would you rather we did with Asylum Seekers?

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2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Who would like an asylum centre, hotel or HMO filled with Asylum seekers put on to their street?

Honest answers only

would i fuck

but i wouldn't want to live next door to a few posters on this thread, either

 

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

That's the thing. Strictly speaking and according to the convention we signed up to - boat crossings without documentation or agreement is classed as an 'irregular' or 'unauthorised' entry, but not illegal per se. 

 

facts won't go down well at this stage

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

facts won't go down well at this stage

Depends which facts you go with. 
 

 

Yes, it is illegal to enter the UK without proper documentation or permission, such as a valid visa or entry clearance. This is often referred to as "illegal entry" or "irregular entry". While it is illegal, it's also true that individuals claiming asylum cannot be penalized for entering the UK irregularly, particularly if they have no other means to reach safety. 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It's not a "no" at all, because it's a ridiculous, loaded question. You don't have to "like" something to accept it's needed. What would you rather we did with Asylum Seekers?

Loaded?

Is it fuck.

Ok the would you be happy about 200 Somalians/Albanians/Sudanese/Kurdish moving in to premises on your street?

Happy/ be ok with/ unhappy any will do.

Not forgetting they are predominantly males 

Would you/ your wife and daughters feel ok about it?

Genuine questions. 

5 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

 

Would you take a boat refugee in your home if you had space?

I wouldn't

They shouldn't be welcomed here by a bunch of retards that won't offer to put them up.

How many protests for the homeless do you see every week?

Asking if someone thinks homelessness should end is not a comparison.

 

 

You just keep peddling a really daft argument with this one.

Why can’t tax paying citizens want to welcome some genuine refugees? Regardless of whether they can accommodate them in their own home or not? 

I’ve done enough renting & flat sharing over the years. Moved past that stage years ago. My two bed flat is the only escape I have from a busy job & a crazy world 😄

I’m also of the opinion that we need a much better balance with immigration. But that we should still allow some refugees who the Home office approve. 
 

Why do I need to be able to host a refugee to hold that opinion ? Genuine question 

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Loaded?

Is it fuck.

Ok the would you be happy about 200 Somalians/Albanians/Sudanese/Kurdish moving in to premises on your street?

Happy/ be ok with/ unhappy any will do.

Not forgetting they are predominantly males 

Would you/ your wife and daughters feel ok about it?

Genuine questions. 

Another ridiculous theoretical. I get it. You don't want migrants near you, and you don't think anyone else does either. You think everyone is lying when they say migrants should be treated like human beings, and you think deep down we all wish they'd just fuck off and drown. You think compassion is a weakness, and anyone who displays any is just virtue signalling.

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3 hours ago, kent_white said:

Yes - I think it's very much along those lines. I'm not sure they will be that impressed when they start reading the gospels. They might like the 'eye for an eye' part. I'm also not sure they will be huge fans of the 'loving thy neighbour' or the 'everyone being one under Jesus Christ' bits etc 😁

Love thy neighbour as long as they’re not a Muslim or a leftie 😄

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

Who would like an asylum centre, hotel or HMO filled with Asylum seekers put on to their street?

Honest answers only

What about people buying cocaine though 😄

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Another ridiculous theoretical. I get it. You don't want migrants near you, and you don't think anyone else does either. You think everyone is lying when they say migrants should be treated like human beings, and you think deep down we all wish they'd just fuck off and drown. You think compassion is a weakness, and anyone who displays any is just virtue signalling.

Why is it ridiculous?

I'm sat typing this right now in an area where this has happened.

I'm asking you that if this happened in your street, would you be ok with it?

It's a simple question really.

The rest of your waffle is just diversionary bollocks.

Yes or no. Would you be OK with houses on your street being acquired and made into HMOs to house predominantly male asylum seekers?

Yes or no.

9 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

What about people buying cocaine though 😄

What about people getting haircuts or their cars washed?

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You just keep peddling a really daft argument with this one.

Why can’t tax paying citizens want to welcome some genuine refugees? Regardless of whether they can accommodate them in their own home or not? 

I’ve done enough renting & flat sharing over the years. Moved past that stage years ago. My two bed flat is the only escape I have from a busy job & a crazy world 😄

I’m also of the opinion that we need a much better balance with immigration. But that we should still allow some refugees who the Home office approve. 
 

Why do I need to be able to host a refugee to hold that opinion ? Genuine question 

Just keep? 2 posts 🤣

Is that what they're doing every week ... welcoming them? Looks more like a demonstration to me.

I get the impression that these sort don't care if they've come here legally or not and I find it amusing that when asked the question its always No.

Balance is what most of us want but likely to get unfortunately. Especially when you've got folk encouraging them to come.

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Why is it ridiculous?

I'm sat typing this right now in an area where this has happened.

I'm asking you that if this happened in your street, would you be ok with it?

It's a simple question really.

The rest of your waffle is just diversionary bollocks.

Yes or no. Would you be OK with houses on your street being acquired and made into HMOs to house predominantly male asylum seekers?

Yes or no.

Where's that then? Let's delve into it. You're saying 200 Somalian/Albanian/Sudanese/Kurdish men were moved into houses on the street where you are now, all at once?

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13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Where's that then? Let's delve into it. You're saying 200 Somalian/Albanian/Sudanese/Kurdish men were moved into houses on the street where you are now, all at once?

32 minutes ago, gonzo said:

What about people getting haircuts or their cars washed?

I was more making a joke about my tangents yesterday. But aye, whatabout them too 😄

24 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Where's that then? Let's delve into it. You're saying 200 Somalian/Albanian/Sudanese/Kurdish men were moved into houses on the street where you are now, all at once?

Metropole plus at least 3 other hotels in this one particular area.

One block of flats filled with them at 5am to avoid the public eye. Home office officials present. I'm stood looking at them now.

Would you be happy about a premises in your street being used as a HMO to house them?

55 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You just keep peddling a really daft argument with this one.

Why can’t tax paying citizens want to welcome some genuine refugees? Regardless of whether they can accommodate them in their own home or not? 

I’ve done enough renting & flat sharing over the years. Moved past that stage years ago. My two bed flat is the only escape I have from a busy job & a crazy world 😄

I’m also of the opinion that we need a much better balance with immigration. But that we should still allow some refugees who the Home office approve. 
 

Why do I need to be able to host a refugee to hold that opinion ? Genuine question 

Additionally - I very much the bloke asking the questions would have uploaded footage of any people who said 'yes' to the same question.