What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Nothing shit ever happened until Labour.

Its not long til Starmer gets the blame for the poll tax and earthquakes

In fairness 5/10 years ago I don’t think politics was as discussed as it is these days. 

4 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

You’re making out like the other parties do when repeatedly they’ve let the working classes down. Most politicains these days are in it for themselves.

With Reform, their policies align more with the working classes and if they do fail when they most likely get into power they’ll be voted straight back out again. 

Google 'Employment Rights Bill 2025'. Reform voted against it.

4 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

I mean there’s loads if you actually decided to have a look. 

Raise income tax threshold to £20,000. Reduce VAT to 18%. Reduce non essential immigration. Start re drilling in the North Sea thus creating more jobs primarily for the working class. Prioritize British citizens for social housing. Freeze energy bills. 

These days drilling in the north sea will make jobs for about 10 people.

Edited October 6, 2025Oct 6 by frank_spencer

2 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

I mean there’s loads if you actually decided to have a look. 

Raise income tax threshold to £20,000. Reduce VAT to 18%. Reduce non essential immigration. Start re drilling in the North Sea thus creating more jobs primarily for the working class. Prioritize British citizens for social housing. Freeze energy bills. 

Blimey. Where to start? How are they going to "freeze energy bills".

9 minutes ago, dazl1212 said:

I thought it was always means tested. Isn't £35k per annum enough to be able to afford heating? As I said, I wouldn't be against increasing the threshold tbh but I don't think every pensioner in the UK needs it. 

Nope. It was universal.
It’s been discussed many times. 
My own thought was £20,000. 
You’re right, every pensioner doesn’t need it. Many do though. Ms. Reeves took it from everyone last year without any consideration for the poor ones who relied on it without warning. It was the start of their downfall and it’s got worse since. 
 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Google 'Employment Rights Bill 2025'. Reform voted against it.

Rightly or wrongly that bill is detrimental to small business who are the biggest employers of the working class. 

3 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

I mean there’s loads if you actually decided to have a look. 

Raise income tax threshold to £20,000. Reduce VAT to 18%. Reduce non essential immigration. Start re drilling in the North Sea thus creating more jobs primarily for the working class. Prioritize British citizens for social housing. Freeze energy bills. 

Some of then are good. I'll admit, especially the first two but it's offset by the fact they voted against they voted against the bill to improve workers rights and have threatened to sack council workers.

 

On a more minor note but important for me is their hatred of working from home. Backwards.

Persoally I have no problem but I have latelyrealised how the older body is more susceptible to the cold.... I really don't want some old dear worrying about turning the heating on

Just now, Cheese said:

Blimey. Where to start? How are they going to "freeze energy bills".

I was asked what policies were in place that attracted the working class.. 

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Nope. It was universal.
It’s been discussed many times. 
My own thought was £20,000. 
You’re right, every pensioner doesn’t need it. Many do though. Ms. Reeves took it from everyone last year without any consideration for the poor ones who relied on it without warning. It was the start of their downfall and it’s got worse since. 
 

Yeah, that's a poor call tbh 

1 minute ago, dazl1212 said:

Some of then are good. I'll admit, especially the first two but it's offset by the fact they voted against they voted against the bill to improve workers rights and have threatened to sack council workers.

 

On a more minor note but important for me is their hatred of working from home. Backwards.

Working from home is a tricky one to be fair. I get the advantage but unfortunately you’ll always get those workers taking the piss and working from home, makes it easier to do that. Think workplace efficiency took a massive hit as well.

We’ll also soon live in a society where people just live in their homes and struggle and choose not to socialise. Look at online dating and uni students for example, a lot of them barely even go for a piss up in town anymore. 

 

1 minute ago, Dimron said:

Persoally I have no problem but I have latelyrealised how the older body is more susceptible to the cold.... I really don't want some old dear worrying about turning the heating on

My honest opinion is that it shouldn't be needed in a country like the UK. People should be able to turn the heating on when they like. Dearest energy in Europe, partly as we kind of subsidise EDF energy.   

3 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

Working from home is a tricky one to be fair. I get the advantage but unfortunately you’ll always get those workers taking the piss and working from home, makes it easier to do that. Think workplace efficiency took a massive hit as well.

We’ll also soon live in a society where people just live in their homes and struggle and choose not to socialise. Look at online dating and uni students for example, a lot of them barely even go for a piss up in town anymore. 

 

Some will take the piss but they will get found out. It makes it a lot easier for all road users. My brothers a builder and Ives that people work from home as theres less traffic. So it's probably better for the roads as they need repairing less etc. I work a lot better from home as I get distracted easily in the office. But it's not for everyone..

 

Students probably can't afford a pint anymore 😂

Edited October 6, 2025Oct 6 by dazl1212

Just now, dazl1212 said:

Some will take the piss but they will get found out. It makes it a lot easier for all road users. My brothers a builder and Ives that people work from home as theres less traffic. So it's probably better for the roads as they need repairing less etc. I work a lot better from home as I get distracted easily in the office. But it's not for everyonem

Most of my time when I was working in the office was spent dicking around on here. 🤷

1 minute ago, frank_spencer said:

Most of my time when I was working in the office was spent dicking around on here. 🤷

I know exactly what you mean! I am the same or I end up just talking to people. I'm hybrid so it gets me out of the house and I get the best of both worlds.

11 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

I was asked what policies were in place that attracted the working class.. 

So you have no idea. And Reform are voting against current Government policies that benefit the working class...

Edited October 6, 2025Oct 6 by Cheese

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

…… Ms. Reeves took it from everyone last year without any consideration for the poor ones who relied on it without warning…..,,
 

Now that’s just not true is it?

10 minutes ago, dazl1212 said:

Yeah, that's a poor call tbh 

And it’s also bollox

2 minutes ago, dazl1212 said:

I know exactly what you mean! I am the same or I end up just talking to people. I'm hybrid so it gets me out of the house and I get the best of both worlds.

I'd get loads done first thing, then head out to the sites, follow up anything that was needed after that then had about 2-3hrs of time sat in the office with little to do. 

Full time carer/self employed these days so my time is my own.

4 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

I'd get loads done first thing, then head out to the sites, follow up anything that was needed after that then had about 2-3hrs of time sat in the office with little to do. 

Full time carer/self employed these days so my time is my own.

It's brutal that in some open plan offices, trying to look busy.

 

No matter how much work I get given I usually finish it all pretty quickly. At least when you do that at home you can do what you want 

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So you have no idea. And Reform are voting against current Government policies that benefit the working class...

No I just answered the question that I was asked, policies that will appeal to the working class. I don’t think it’s particularly difficult to see how their stated policies would reduce energy costs though. We’re currently paying some of the highest domestic energy rates in the world. 

7 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

And it’s also bollox

I mean you cant argue she didn’t make an absolute hash of it though can you. 

1 minute ago, CumbrianWhite said:

No I just answered the question that I was asked, policies that will appeal to the working class. I don’t think it’s particularly difficult to see how their stated policies would reduce energy costs though. We’re currently paying some of the highest domestic energy rates in the world. 

Go on then. Explain how their stated policies would reduce energy costs.

Just now, Cheese said:

Go on then. Explain how their stated policies would reduce energy costs.

Cut domestic vat on energy by 5%. Scrapping net zero which thus removing green levies currently added to bills. Boost home grown energy reducing reliance on expensive overseas energy. 

12 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Now that’s just not true is it?

Well, yes. I know some on pension credit and other benefits still got it but we were talking about pensioners. Ie. those that had earned it through NI contributions.