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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Problem is with comments like this is that it just generalises all Muslims.

 There are extremist & conservative elements of Islam here that aren’t compatible with our values. But there are also plenty of white British folk whose views aren’t compatible. Plenty of Muslim majority communities will continue to grow & will be perfectly compatible. 
 

Folk are obsessing over Islam as some sort of enemy to ‘our way of life’. Rather than being specific about it being Islamic extremism. Suddenly all Muslims are to blame; rather than the small minority who hold those beliefs. The generalisations & misinformation being spread are outright dangerous. To the point where you’ve now got people setting their local mosque on fire because they’ve been brainwashed by this rhetoric. 

Then you’ve got Reform & the Unite the Kingdom movement (spearheaded by Tommy Robinson) saying that Islam isn’t compatible. But what we need instead is to build alliances with an ultra conservative American Christian movement & let that spread over here. The fckn morons.

Don’t call it out though. Otherwise you’re just defending the  ‘cancer’ or you’re a sheltered liberal with your head in the sand 🙄

Well you certainly are. Keep poisoning those kids minds.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

https://unherd.com/newsroom/two-thirds-of-young-british-muslims-oppose-israels-right-to-exist/

I've heard of a more recent one showing higher numbers.

Whatever you think of the conflict, with numbers like this it isn't correct to label the extreme ones as a small minority. 

Pussyfooting around will not achieve anything, except embolden them even more.

Aye, here's another one

Poll: Overwhelming majority of Jewish Israelis share genocidal belief there are ‘no innocent people in Gaza’ – Mondoweiss https://share.google/O2FYykj4fB9yg0qeh

I suspect the numbers are only going to increase on both sides the longer it goes on

33 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

I'd like to spit you out you boring cunt.

I reckon you're far more likely to swallow.

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33 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

We live in different universes.

Makes no odds. He's toast.

Continents.

35 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Whilst Labour have proved beyond all doubt that they are?

:lol:

Winter fuel payments.

Means tested winter fuel payments? I didn't see the issue with it.

59 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

...and you lot got us here.

Who is "you lot" - I'm having nothing to do with it

34 minutes ago, Zico said:

Aye, here's another one

Poll: Overwhelming majority of Jewish Israelis share genocidal belief there are ‘no innocent people in Gaza’ – Mondoweiss https://share.google/O2FYykj4fB9yg0qeh

I suspect the numbers are only going to increase on both sides the longer it goes on

Aye, I saw that too.

They're Israelis though, and can understand their sentiment, even if it sits uneasily.

The people in my links are British, or living in Britain as migrants.

Many of them are aggressive in their attitudes towards British values, and pursuit of Islamic rights here.

It's in the reports.

Meanwhile Jews here have very different attitudes towards Britain.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

I'd like to spit you out you boring cunt.

 

Calm down pal... you wouldn't have come out with that in the Trotters when I was serving 🙂

Both of you, Let's just debate, I enjoy àll of your postings, they make me think and consider

 

39 minutes ago, dazl1212 said:

Means tested winter fuel payments? I didn't see the issue with it.

Agreed to a certain extent but as an active old bugger clocking 70 I do feel the cold more these days... I honestly don't know why, probably something to do with body mass, but as you get older you need more external warmth... so we need to build that into the equation.

1 minute ago, Dimron said:

Agreed to a certain extent but as an active old bugger clocking 70 I do feel the cold more these days... I honestly don't know why, probably something to do with body mass, but as you get older you need more external warmth... so we need to build that into the equation.

You should have thought about that and been less frivolous, and put some savings away. 🤷‍♂️ That's what everyone else gets told.

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Well you certainly are. Keep poisoning those kids minds.

What a ridiculous comment.

There's one way to shut down debate.

Muppet 

Bolty doesn’t debate.

He just screeches.

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You should have thought about that and been less frivolous, and put some savings away. 🤷‍♂️ That's what everyone else gets told.

I'll be alreet... I'll just put another immigrant on the fire 😛

54 minutes ago, dazl1212 said:

Means tested winter fuel payments? I didn't see the issue with it.

If only they had have thought of that at the beginning. They had to be told by their own back benchers that the original policy was wrong. They still got it wrong with the income levels imo. 

22 hours ago, Cheese said:

Well I asked CumbrianWhite for one that was ignored as that's what he claimed. 🤷‍♂️

Gonzo and LT Aldo Raine have pretty much answered already. My gripe is mainly with the tories who repeatedly stated they were going to reduce immigration only to let it spiral. 

37 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Agreed to a certain extent but as an active old bugger clocking 70 I do feel the cold more these days... I honestly don't know why, probably something to do with body mass, but as you get older you need more external warmth... so we need to build that into the equation.

I imagine you do mate. I'm not disputing that but I think there needs to be a cut off. Isn't it 35k? Assuming that's per person I don't think it's too bad. Although, I wouldn't be averse to raising it considerably given the financial climate.

 

But not everyone needs not from a financial sense and it can be better spent elsewhere.

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23 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

If only they had have thought of that at the beginning. They had to be told by their own back benchers that the original policy was wrong. They still got it wrong with the income levels imo. 

I thought it was always means tested. Isn't £35k per annum enough to be able to afford heating? As I said, I wouldn't be against increasing the threshold tbh but I don't think every pensioner in the UK needs it. 

9 hours ago, Cheese said:

They don't give a single fuck about 'the working man' beyond getting his vote. It's going to be funny as fuck when the penny finally drops for their supporters.

You’re making out like the other parties do when repeatedly they’ve let the working classes down. Most politicains these days are in it for themselves.

With Reform, their policies align more with the working classes and if they do fail when they most likely get into power they’ll be voted straight back out again. 

I bet I could scour the internet and not find a single story about pensioners freezing to death every winter since time began.

This has only happened since Labour.

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3 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

You’re making out like the other parties do when repeatedly they’ve let the working classes down. Most politicains these days are in it for themselves.

With Reform, their policies align more with the working classes and if they do fail when they most likely get into power they’ll be voted straight back out again. 

Which policies do you feel line up with the working classes?

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

I bet I could scour the internet and not find a single story about pensioners feeding to death every winter since time began.

This has only happened since Labour.

Similar to child poverty and air pollution deaths when the tories where in power. 

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

We live in different universes.

I think we've both known that for about the past 20 years, mate! 😁

2 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

Similar to child poverty and air pollution deaths when the tories where in power. 

Nothing shit ever happened until Labour.

Its not long til Starmer gets the blame for the poll tax and earthquakes

1 minute ago, dazl1212 said:

Which policies do you feel line up with the working classes?

I mean there’s loads if you actually decided to have a look. 

Raise income tax threshold to £20,000. Reduce VAT to 18%. Reduce non essential immigration. Start re drilling in the North Sea thus creating more jobs primarily for the working class. Prioritize British citizens for social housing. Freeze energy bills. 

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