Politics

[miamiwhite]

Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

So you can't actually bring yourself to address the fundamental difference...what a surprise....

Head in sand. We know rich men make money from these things. Its how it works. The issue here is not that people bet against the UK. Although of course that is distasteful. Its that these men - deliberately contributed to a campaign where they told us how great the economy would be after Brexit - they funded the lies - and now are spending huge sums to bet against that success they lied about. 

 

Have I denied the fundamental issue ? No I haven’t ....

Yes, some influential Brexiteers have indeed manipulated the situation to line their own pockets, but I merely illustrated they’re not the only ones to do this.

Its you who can’t handle things fella. Imagine if a right sided financier manipulated markets like Soros has been proven to do several times and fined heavily....your pants would be even wetter and more toys thrown out the prism.

Stop the pontificating and fa e facts.

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

I have no idea why folk take Miami on with this stuff. Happens every single time and to be honest makes these threads pointless; ignore the original point or news story and then try and get people to look at some sort of high profile 'liberal' (and I use this term loosely) in some form of odd comparison then declare yourself a winner to a discussion that wasn't actually happening.

 

 

Have I declared myself a winner ?

Always hits a nerve with you left luvvies doesn’t it when links are produced to back my claims up of left sided manipulation ? If you don’t like it, why don’t you ignore it , keep your big nose out and carry on selling tickets for the theatre ?

[Guest]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Have I denied the fundamental issue ? No I haven’t ....

Yes, some influential Brexiteers have indeed manipulated the situation to line their own pockets, but I merely illustrated they’re not the only ones to do this.

Its you who can’t handle things fella. Imagine if a right sided financier manipulated markets like Soros has been proven to do several times and fined heavily....your pants would be even wetter and more toys thrown out the prism.

Stop the pontificating and fa e facts.

Manipulating the markets - he spotted that the pound was overpriced. Its not manipulating the market. And regardless manipulating the market isn't the issue here. its lying to millions of people for years whilst profiting on their failure secretly. 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

Manipulating the markets - he spotted that the pound was overpriced. Its not manipulating the market. And regardless manipulating the market isn't the issue here. its lying to millions of people for years whilst profiting on their failure secretly. 

Isn’t the issue ? Course it is.

The Brexiteers have done it which had you gloating, but you clam up when given facts of left sided manipulation.

Pathetic.

Go away and do some negotiation over hostages, you’d bore the pants off the hostage takers.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Isn’t the issue ? Course it is.

The Brexiteers have done it which had you gloating, but you clam up when given facts of left sided manipulation.

Pathetic.

Go away and do some negotiation over hostages, you’d bore the pants off the hostage takers.

Jesus christ. Left sided manipulation. What a weird world you live in.

At least you now accept Brexit is based on lies. Taken a while...

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Jesus christ. Left sided manipulation. What a weird world you live in.

At least you now accept Brexit is based on lies. Taken a while...

Get a grip you plantpot.

Soros is as left as Peter Thompson for us, you really are blind to facts when it doesn’t suit you.

Just because some individuals bet on things doesn’t mean the entire Brexit vote was based on lies. Just like it’s taken you three gut wrenching, tears wiping years to see Britain doing well,  after the end was nigh according to gobshites like yourself and several others on here.

[Jol_BWFC]

29 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Have I denied the fundamental issue ? No I haven’t ....

Yes, some influential Brexiteers have indeed manipulated the situation to line their own pockets, but I merely illustrated they’re not the only ones to do this.

Its you who can’t handle things fella. Imagine if a right sided financier manipulated markets like Soros has been proven to do several times and fined heavily....your pants would be even wetter and more toys thrown out the prism.

Stop the pontificating and fa e facts.

And there we have it. You admit that you don’t challenge the issue. So why did you challenge the post? As I said above (and you have agreed) it was to deflect attention onto someone else and not on the embarrassing actions of Tory donors. 

Your “proven fact” is a totally separate set of circumstances, as pointed out above. It’s nothing like the Brexit hypocrisy / manipulation. It’s just a guy who made a load of money from betting on currency. We can all post proven facts; yours just happens not to support what you’re trying to say.

[Not in Crawley]

57 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Have I declared myself a winner ?

Always hits a nerve with you left luvvies doesn’t it when links are produced to back my claims up of left sided manipulation ? If you don’t like it, why don’t you ignore it , keep your big nose out and carry on selling tickets for the theatre ?

If by nerve you mean boredom, then yes it does, regularly. 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

If by nerve you mean boredom, then yes it does, regularly. 

Side off fella. A left wing crank could murder the Queen and you’d talk about camping etc.

You know it, I know it.

[miamiwhite]

10 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

And there we have it. You admit that you don’t challenge the issue. So why did you challenge the post? As I said above (and you have agreed) it was to deflect attention onto someone else and not on the embarrassing actions of Tory donors. 

Your “proven fact” is a totally separate set of circumstances, as pointed out above. It’s nothing like the Brexit hypocrisy / manipulation. It’s just a guy who made a load of money from betting on currency. We can all post proven facts; yours just happens not to support what you’re trying to say.

Did I actually say I didn’t challenge the issue ! Get real and read what I said instead of reading what you want to believe.

Have I agreed it was to deflect ? Like hell i did...I was merely showing there’s more than Brexiteers at it....the Brexiteers must have been educated by Soros on the art of it.

My proven fact clearly highlights the left /liberal side of politics were at market manipulation and got fined heavily from it, many moons before the Brexit vote.....yes or no ? Read the facts and give me a straight one word answer instead of your obligatory subterfuge.

That does in fact support my claim last night of Soros being an utterly fraudulent turd.

A fact you can’t admit, but still continue to deny, even when the courts found him guilty.

Enjoy the Fox.

[miamiwhite]

17 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

And there we have it. You admit that you don’t challenge the issue. So why did you challenge the post? As I said above (and you have agreed) it was to deflect attention onto someone else and not on the embarrassing actions of Tory donors. 

Your “proven fact” is a totally separate set of circumstances, as pointed out above. It’s nothing like the Brexit hypocrisy / manipulation. It’s just a guy who made a load of money from betting on currency. We can all post proven facts; yours just happens not to support what you’re trying to say.

Look again at what I said Jol.

I said I didn’t deny the fundamental issue...please get your facts correct.

[Jol_BWFC]

18 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Look again at what I said Jol.

I said I didn’t deny the fundamental issue...please get your facts correct.

Don't deny it, don't challenge it's validity. What's the difference? If you're arguing over diction you are scraping the barrel.

[kent_white]

22 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Did I actually say I didn’t challenge the issue ! Get real and read what I said instead of reading what you want to believe.

Have I agreed it was to deflect ? Like hell i did...I was merely showing there’s more than Brexiteers at it....the Brexiteers must have been educated by Soros on the art of it.

My proven fact clearly highlights the left /liberal side of politics were at market manipulation and got fined heavily from it, many moons before the Brexit vote.....yes or no ? Read the facts and give me a straight one word answer instead of your obligatory subterfuge.

That does in fact support my claim last night of Soros being an utterly fraudulent turd.

A fact you can’t admit, but still continue to deny, even when the courts found him guilty.

Enjoy the Fox.

It's called the straw man fallacy

[Jol_BWFC]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

It's called the straw man fallacy

That's one of the most accurate posts I've seen in a long time. Certainly on this thread. Miami in a nutshell.

[miamiwhite]

9 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Don't deny it, don't challenge it's validity. What's the difference? If you're arguing over diction you are scraping the barrel.

Do one you fool....you’re clearly scraping the barrel here as always with your holier than thou pompous attitude. Get real and streetwise.

You clearly said I didn’t challenge and admitted/agreed to diverting attention...first I knew about that sunshine.

Stick your diction where you sit down to pee.

[miamiwhite]

12 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It's called the straw man fallacy

What a knob you are fella.

I didn’t ignore the real argument.

How could my argument be pretend when it’s factual re Soros ?

Did I claim victory or do a war dance ? I don’t think so, I purely presented facts the left were first at the game of market manipulation, that’s true.

Amzing how the little left warriors flock together isn’t it ?

Said it before and will say it again, show in person on Saturday and speak face to face over a beer without huge pauses whilst you google things.

You lot will be totally clueless on the spot.

[Jol_BWFC]

27 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Did I actually say I didn’t challenge the issue ! Get real and read what I said instead of reading what you want to believe.

Have I agreed it was to deflect ? Like hell i did...I was merely showing there’s more than Brexiteers at it....the Brexiteers must have been educated by Soros on the art of it.

My proven fact clearly highlights the left /liberal side of politics were at market manipulation and got fined heavily from it, many moons before the Brexit vote.....yes or no ? Read the facts and give me a straight one word answer instead of your obligatory subterfuge.

That does in fact support my claim last night of Soros being an utterly fraudulent turd.

A fact you can’t admit, but still continue to deny, even when the courts found him guilty.

Enjoy the Fox.

You said in your post you didn't *deny* the issue but wanted to draw attention to other (left) people who do it (although your "it" is making money from currency whereas the original "it" is something entirely different). 

Your proven fact shows that a lefty made money from currency and that he has been involved in dodgy dealing in the past. Did they show he was hypocritically promoting one thing and telling the world it was great, while betting against that same thing (in the context we are talking about here)? No.

[miamiwhite]

13 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

That's one of the most accurate posts I've seen in a long time. Certainly on this thread. Miami in a nutshell.

Typical left politics isn’t it Jol ?

Try to criticise to avoid the truth.

Are you up on Saturday ? Fancy a beer on me ?

[kent_white]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

What a knob you are fella.

I didn’t ignore the real argument.

How could my argument be pretend when it’s factual re Soros ?

Did I claim victory or do a war dance ? I don’t think so, I purely presented facts the left were first at the game of market manipulation, that’s true.

Amzing how the little left warriors flock together isn’t it ?

Said it before and will say it again, show in person on Saturday and speak face to face over a beer without huge pauses whilst you google things.

You lot will be totally clueless on the spot.

You've done the one on the left this time.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said:

You said in your post you didn't *deny* the issue but wanted to draw attention to other (left) people who do it (although your "it" is making money from currency whereas the original "it" is something entirely different). 

Your proven fact shows that a lefty made money from currency and that he has been involved in dodgy dealing in the past. Did they show he was hypocritically promoting one thing and telling the world it was great, while betting against that same thing (in the context we are talking about here)? No.

Take a look at the quotes re Hungary, then report back with a Yes.

[miamiwhite]

Just now, kent_white said:

You've done the one on the left this time.

Ooh...how nice, all charts today.

Clueless twat

[kent_white]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Ooh...how nice, all charts today.

Clueless twat

That's not even a logical fallacy - it's just abuse.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

That's not even a logical fallacy - it's just abuse.

Look fella, you’re trying to abuse and ridicule myself in your own inimitable style.

It doesn’t wash with me, I’ll give it you back many times over and in industrial language.

[Not in Crawley]

54 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Side off fella. A left wing crank could murder the Queen and you’d talk about camping etc.

You know it, I know it.

As I’ve said before - please don’t presume, you know what assumption did.

For someone who prides themselves on facts you sure do rely a lot on confirmation bias.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

As I’ve said before - please don’t presume, you know what assumption did.

For someone who prides themselves on facts you sure do rely a lot on confirmation bias.

Confirm this then...

Are you left sided....yes or no ?