Not in Crawley Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, kent_white said: Really? 🤣🤣🤣 So ruddy, ruddy brave..... There's Sue with her hand...like a JCV.. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yet keeping "talking" about it hasn't stopped it neither. Talk is cheap and meaningless if not backed up with positive, sensible actions and/or is seen as discriminatory in its own right. Something which the kick it out campaign had succeeded in doing. Got worse and more divided since. Do you know how much the Kick It Out campaign is funded? Taking the knee has given that underfunded charity triple their usual annual money. Sorry, I know its tough when facts hit your reality, but thems the facts Percy Grower, so maybe look outside of your growbag of Bolton. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 The Gammons are now experts in the Kick it Out campaign 👌 They’ve just missed the bit where the CEO “wholeheartedly” supported players taking the knee and the positive impact it has had. Anyway, what round we on now ? 🥊 Quote
Members bolty58 Posted January 19, 2023 Members Posted January 19, 2023 16 hours ago, DazBob said: Me, obviously. Stop being so woke, matey! Touche mon ami. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted January 19, 2023 Members Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Zico said: this is actually something Bolty is in favour of, which surprised me, given he didn't like it when they had a mixed race family in the remake of Worzel Gummidge (for the record, I don't think they should, or don't see the point really) I just like Idris Elba and thought he would make a cracking James Bond. Sue me. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted January 19, 2023 Members Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Zico said: this is actually something Bolty is in favour of, which surprised me, given he didn't like it when they had a mixed race family in the remake of Worzel Gummidge (for the record, I don't think they should, or don't see the point really) ? Please provide the necessary proof. Don't recall that at all although I may have commented that the remake of The Darling Buds Of May was laughable for such reasons. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted January 19, 2023 Members Posted January 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yet keeping "talking" about it hasn't stopped it neither. Talk is cheap and meaningless if not backed up with positive, sensible actions and/or is seen as discriminatory in its own right. Something which the kick it out campaign had succeeded in doing. Got worse and more divided since. Yep but you are not adhering to the herd mentality and going with the flow matey. Thinking for yourself? You fucking realist. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted January 19, 2023 Members Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, London Wanderer said: The Gammons are now experts in the Kick it Out campaign 👌 They’ve just missed the bit where the CEO “wholeheartedly” supported players taking the knee and the positive impact it has had. Anyway, what round we on now ? 🥊 ...and the Morons aren't. Quote
gonzo Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Got worse and more divided since. Has it? Quote
royal white Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 52 minutes ago, gonzo said: Has it? I’d say so Quote
Not in Crawley Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Has it? I think its just highlighted the issues and that some folk have got some pretty old fashioned views that are being questioned by a younger generation and it makes them a bit grumpy. Quote
mickbrown Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 The thing about Kick it Out was you didn't have to engage with it. Now these mard arses have to see people kneeling down for 5 seconds and they can't process it. Quote
Members DazBob Posted January 19, 2023 Members Posted January 19, 2023 48 minutes ago, mickbrown said: The thing about Kick it Out was you didn't have to engage with it. Now these mard arses have to see people kneeling down for 5 seconds and they can't process it. Exactly! It was 'non-divisive' because it could be ignored. Had all players made a pre-kick off gesture before every game for Kick It Out then the gammons would've been in uproar about that too due to it being rammed down their throats, etc, etc. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted January 19, 2023 Moderators Posted January 19, 2023 10 hours ago, bolty58 said: ? Please provide the necessary proof. Don't recall that at all although I may have commented that the remake of The Darling Buds Of May was laughable for such reasons. what did they do to Darling Buds of May? anyway, your moan starts here: The original was better as it didn't have any social engineering or political content. The social engineering comment was aimed at the mixed race kids. No problem with it whatsoever in principle. Just doubt that Euphan Todd would ever have envisaged her story this way. I do have a problem with the virtue signalling mindset for positive discrimination which seems to be prevalent at the moment. It's reaching farcical levels with 'ethnic minorities' cropping up in medieval English drama's and the like; homosexuality in car adverts etc. Just for the record (and you can check back if you can find it), I want Idris Elba to be the next Bond. All about context. Believable that Elba could be Bond. Not sure Barbara Euphan Todd would have envisaged her story being told this way. So you reject the notion of positive discrimination being at play then? and as I said at the time to the Todd comment not envisgaing her story having mixed race kids in: in what way though? it doesn't make sense, to me, unless you seem to think she wouldn't like black kids in her stories, which I'm sure you don't, so I don't get what you mean and what makes you think Ian Fleming would've envisaged his story being told with a black guy playing Bond? Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 19, 2023 Site Supporter Posted January 19, 2023 Homosexuals in car adverts. I can’t speyk Quote
Sweep Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Spider said: Homosexuals in car adverts. I can’t speyk I can't recall an advert with homosxuals in it, but with think @gonzo sent me a video of some people bumming in a car once, if that counts, Ford Mustang Gangbang I think it was called Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 19, 2023 Site Supporter Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/13/65/00/3100680/3/628x471.jpg 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: I can't recall an advert with homosxuals in it, but with think @gonzo sent me a video of some people bumming in a car once, if that counts, Ford Mustang Gangbang I think it was called Anyway, proper straighties who like tits and fannies ride scooters. http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/13/65/00/3100680/3/628x471.jpg Edited January 19, 2023 by Spider Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 10 hours ago, bolty58 said: ...and the Morons aren't. You okay Ronnie? No need to get personal x Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, royal white said: I’d say so On the one hand you've got Zaha and Toney saying that taking the knee gives those at the top an excuse not to take action. And you can understand why they might take that stand. Randell might be of the same opinion. But there has hardly been any big drama or divisions created by them taking a different opinion. Then on the other hand you've got a big rise in reporting of racist incidents at games since players started taking the knee. Either that's because people some people are so bloody offended by the knee that they've started racially abusing players, or it's because the public are more aware and more confident to report abuse. Which would you say it is? One of those options just seems like nonsense to me. Quote
Sweep Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Spider said: http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/13/65/00/3100680/3/628x471.jpg Anyway, proper straighties who like tits and fannies ride scooters. http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/13/65/00/3100680/3/628x471.jpg I suspect in the real world, this is more down his street, look at the lovely shape of that Vespa 🙂 Quote
royal white Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: On the one hand you've got Zaha and Toney saying that taking the knee gives those at the top an excuse not to take action. And you can understand why they might take that stand. Randell might be of the same opinion. But there has hardly been any big drama or divisions created by them taking a different opinion. Then on the other hand you've got a big rise in reporting of racist incidents at games since players started taking the knee. Either that's because people some people are so bloody offended by the knee that they've started racially abusing players, or it's because the public are more aware and more confident to report abuse. Which would you say it is? One of those options just seems like nonsense to me. I know which one you think is nonsense so let’s look at the other. Do you think people in the crowd have only just started reporting racism because players have taken the knee? Come on. Quote
mickbrown Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, royal white said: I know which one you think is nonsense so let’s look at the other. Do you think people in the crowd have only just started reporting racism because players have taken the knee? Come on. Do you think people have only just started being racist because players have taken the knee? Quote
royal white Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Do you think people have only just started being racist because players have taken the knee? Let’s answer my question first. 👍 Quote
Sweep Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 I'm surprised that people are still bothered about the "taking knee" stance - surely the average person really doesn't give a fuck at all. I really don't care either way if some do it, they all do it or nobody does it. People who turn their back or boo are entitled to do that if so they choose, they just look a little bit silly, they'd be better of just keeping their eyes closed for the 3 or 5 seconds it generally takes, in order to not be so massively upset or put out I suppose the one thing it is doing is keeping the conversation going, I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not though 🙂 There are even some dicks who think it can cause a team to lose a game....(I can't remember who, but I'm sure somebody suggested Germany and England didn't do well in the recent WC because of such things...) Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 19, 2023 Site Supporter Posted January 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Sweep said: There are even some dicks who think it can cause a team to lose a game....(I can't remember who, but I'm sure somebody suggested Germany and England didn't do well in the recent WC because of such things...) Arsene Wenger. Quote
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