It's happening. 

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17405193.bolton-wanderers-close-to-takeover-from-uk-based-consortium/

Thank fuck

11 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

In terms of the squad and manager I think the club requires youth, vigour and fresh ideas. I also believe in Sabremetrics so it’ll be acquisitions based on this.

You believe in sabermetrics, but you imply that will be the route be the club take?

15 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

With apologies if I have missed something earlier in the day while at work, Howard ..... this reference to Sabremetrics is very interesting. Is it the first time you have used that word on here?You clearly think this translates from baseball to football. What makes you think the bidders will base their strategy on this?

Yes the first time I have used this word on here. 

I believe it translates at a L1 level, not so much in the PL or Championship as the flair factor is too high.

3 minutes ago, Razaldo9 said:

You believe in sabermetrics, but you imply that will be the route be the club take?

A miss quote there surely?

3 minutes ago, Razaldo9 said:

You believe in sabermetrics, but you imply that will be the route be the club take?

It should read that I’m suggesting young players acquired based on sabremetrics

2 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

Yes the first time I have used this word on here. 

I believe it translates at a L1 level, not so much in the PL or Championship as the flair factor is too high.

I'd say Preston and Brentford are good examples at Championship level although clearly neither have won promotion doing this! 

For someone whose knowledge extends as far as having watched Moneyball this is fascinating stuff. I take it our bidder is from the other side of the pond?

Just now, paulhanley said:

I'd say Preston and Brentford are good examples at Championship level although clearly neither have won promotion doing this! 

For someone whose knowledge extends as far as having watched Moneyball this is fascinating stuff. I take it our bidder is from the other side of the pond?

Not necessarily a US buyer, sabremetrics has evolved in to off the shelf software packages and AI modelling

1 minute ago, Howardroark said:

Not necessarily a US buyer, sabremetrics has evolved in to off the shelf software packages and AI modelling

Fair do's and thanks. If it's to be sabremetrics then clearly the bidder will already have thought about who will do the analysis and I'd guess we're probably in Director of Football territory.

Just now, paulhanley said:

Fair do's and thanks. If it's to be sabremetrics then clearly the bidder will already have thought about who will do the analysis and I'd guess we're probably in Director of Football territory.

I believe that’ll be the set-up, yes

6 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Fair do's and thanks. If it's to be sabremetrics then clearly the bidder will already have thought about who will do the analysis and I'd guess we're probably in Director of Football territory.

Which is what Warburton and Weir are so familiar with

7 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

I believe that’ll be the set-up, yes

Have I jumped to the wrong assumption thinking mark warburton was with Basran then?

4 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

Which is what Warburton and Weir are so familiar with

To be clear, I said my preference was for sabremetrics 

Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM

Thanks for that valuable input.

12 minutes ago, Watsmore said:

Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM

It must have been at a young age that you were in the Falklands, because sure as fuck you didn't get an education.

I think Mark Warburton may have fallen out with the Brentford chairman due to him (chairman) wanting to use sabermetrics to identify potential transfer targets..

Edited March 21, 20197 yr by Ros Coe

13 minutes ago, Watsmore said:

Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM

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#irony

That was supposed to be my parting shot.Cant believe you allowed that.Dont know whether to say thanks or just say nowt.😯

14 minutes ago, Watsmore said:

Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM

Diareer is a fucking killer. 

Hi again, Howard. Thanks for the reply.

 

I've been reading from page 50 to page 160 since last night. My head hurts now, so I'm going to do something less stressful on my brain.

Before I forget however, you said:

"On Tuesday a notification of the purchase of the Moonshift debt in respect of Inner Circle by consortium A

A formal bid for the company which delays HMRC winder

Formal notification to KA that in 14 days his shares will be redeemed due to default on the loan. 

On pay day- Ken accepts bid and signs over."

Which seems to be spot on.

But you also said (paraphrased):

Basran, before buying the club would have to 'trust' Ken, and advance him the amount to pay off HMRC. Because the WU must be paid before the club can change hands, otherwise the sale can be reversed.

Is this not the case for the Mystery Buyer? Due to the fact that they'll be paying off everything in full, so they say?

Or is it more that, if they give Ken the amount to pay off HMRC and he doesn't relinquish control as promised, they can just buy out Moonshift and out him that way, therefore not getting a payday?

Sorry if that's already been covered, but I can't stand to read another 50 pages right now haha.

 

Cheers.

 

(I've already read most of the posts from page 160-now but a lot of it lacked context of everything in the thread from 50-160, so I went back to see how this all began.)

14 minutes ago, Watsmore said:

Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM

I'm pretty sure that when my great grandfather was killed in the war - he died in the hope that one day - you'd be able to say that Parminder Basran smelt of curry.

18 minutes ago, Watsmore said:

Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM

I believe millions died in wars fighting facism?

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Diareer is a fucking killer. 

So are bullets.

Just now, Howardroark said:

I believe millions died in wars fighting facism?

Don't start like that howard.Dont taint what a blessing you are on here.

6 minutes ago, Watsmore said:

That was supposed to be my parting shot.Cant believe you allowed that.Dont know whether to say thanks or just say nowt.😯

Say nowt. You look daft enough already

4 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Hi again, Howard. Thanks for the reply.

 

I've been reading from page 50 to page 160 since last night. My head hurts now, so I'm going to do something less stressful on my brain.

Before I forget however, you said:

"On Tuesday a notification of the purchase of the Moonshift debt in respect of Inner Circle by consortium A

A formal bid for the company which delays HMRC winder

Formal notification to KA that in 14 days his shares will be redeemed due to default on the loan. 

On pay day- Ken accepts bid and signs over."

Which seems to be spot on.

But you also said (paraphrased):

Basran, before buying the club would have to 'trust' Ken, and advance him the amount to pay off HMRC. Because the WU must be paid before the club can change hands, otherwise the sale can be reversed.

Is this not the case for the Mystery Buyer? Due to the fact that they'll be paying off everything in full, so they say?

Or is it more that, if they give Ken the amount to pay off HMRC and he doesn't relinquish control as promised, they can just buy out Moonshift and out him that way, therefore not getting a payday?

Sorry if that's already been covered, but I can't stand to read another 50 pages right now haha.

 

Cheers.

 

(I've already read most of the posts from page 160-now but a lot of it lacked context of everything in the thread from 50-160, so I went back to see how this all began.)

You are quite correct, for the new buyer they have the insurance policy of the 14 day notice period, this means they could take the shares back on the 2nd and pay the WU on the 3rd.