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Take Over

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  • Give it a fucking rest eh  ‘somebody’s moral expectations of someone are very different to the legal obligations you know that and I know that. So why don’t you lay off patronising folk Chris and

  • I really cannot wait for the day we don’t have to read the words moonshift, Inner fucking circle, blue bastard marble or any piece of shit word associated to this horrible draining 3 year bullshit sag

  • Fucking massive clear out coming on WW later, either way.

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Quite a few remain sceptical this morning. 

 

Loads will.

KA could sell to an oil billionaire and rebuild Bolton Hospital and give every season ticket holder 100million and folk would still moan.

Bolton fans prefer to be i told you so rather than just take stuff at face value.

Same reason why we had folk fighting with each other at Wigan

10 hours ago, Howardroark said:

Ah the Withins High School education system.

County grammar actually, and there is truth in it.

Iirc, submarines can go faster under water. Must be male.

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Iirc, submarines can go faster under water. 

Yes, they're a bit slower on land.

5 minutes ago, Traf said:

Yes, they're a bit slower on land.

We need hover subs!

 

36 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Quite a few remain sceptical this morning. 

 

I'm skeptical until a deal is signed on the dotted line and the new owner parades themselves round the ground. 

14 minutes ago, Big E said:

Loads will.

KA could sell to an oil billionaire and rebuild Bolton Hospital and give every season ticket holder 100million and folk would still moan.

society prefer to be i told you so rather than just take stuff at face value.

Same reason why we had folk fighting with each other at Wigan

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10 hours ago, Howardroark said:

Yes £4.7M 

Yes fraudulent but there is previous 

Please refer to patisserie Valerie for competence of auditors 

His previous resulted in a ban. If it’s proved, are we talking more serious consequences?

19 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

His previous resulted in a ban. If it’s proved, are we talking more serious consequences?

Oh I do hope so. 

34 minutes ago, Big E said:

Loads will.

KA could sell to an oil billionaire and rebuild Bolton Hospital and give every season ticket holder 100million and folk would still moan.

Bolton fans prefer to be i told you so rather than just take stuff at face value.

Same reason why we had folk fighting with each other at Wigan

 

If you believe Howard, we might be close to a takeover from men with money who've gone to great lengths specifically not to deal with him. And if you also believe Howard, Ken's been fraudulently making millions off the club while not paying staff and pleading poverty.

How dare anyone moan at his conduct.

1 hour ago, Chris Custodiet said:

Yes. Deeper than Anisimov's. Lives in Lausanne. Not much to go on other than a hunch though.

P.S. Its entirely plausible that Ken needed to raise additional money to keep the show on the road but I remain unconvinced about speculative allegations of irregularities that BL's auditors didn't notice.

David Thompson then. Hope so!

21 hours ago, Dr Faustus said:

back to back Stonefrost and Swallow

it would put Bolton back on the map

Is Ken still a cunt?, or will he go down in history as the man who just about kept us  afloat, found a wealthy buyer and saved us from certain death?

Hang on, i think i know the answer.

6 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Is Ken still a cunt?, or will he go down in history as the man who just about kept us  afloat, found a wealthy buyer and saved us from certain death?

Hang on, i think i know the answer.

Both.

11 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Is Ken still a cunt?, or will he go down in history as the man who just about kept us  afloat, found a wealthy buyer and saved us from certain death?

Hang on, i think i know the answer.

I think Eddie Davies deserves a lot of credit for his final act. As well as lending the club the £5m to sort out the Blu Marble debt the way he did it enabled Moonshift to get a hold on Ken's shares and has ultimately probably forced Ken into a corner and with fingers crossed got us a better owner.

15 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

If you believe Howard, we might be close to a takeover from men with money who've gone to great lengths specifically not to deal with him. And if you also believe Howard, Ken's been fraudulently making millions off the club while not paying staff and pleading poverty.

How dare anyone moan at his conduct.

There's a problem with Howard. You can believe quite a lot of what he says but I'm afraid there are occasions when you simply can't

The first really loud alarm bell went off when Howard claimed that Michael James could transfer the £5.5m debt owed by Bolton Whites Hotel to PBP into his own name, when MJ owned only 20% of PBP, and then draw on the £5.5million free of tax.

29 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

If you believe Howard, we might be close to a takeover from men with money who've gone to great lengths specifically not to deal with him. And if you also believe Howard, Ken's been fraudulently making millions off the club while not paying staff and pleading poverty.

How dare anyone moan at his conduct.

Can you point to the bit where Howard said KA was making millions fraudulently ? 

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Can you point to the bit where Howard said KA was making millions fraudulently ? 

 

Page 195 of this thread.

Nixon said the EFL dont even know the name of the buyer. Very cloak and dagger. KA loves a NDA.

3 minutes ago, Walkden White said:

I think Eddie Davies deserves a lot of credit for his final act. As well as lending the club the £5m to sort out the Blu Marble debt the way he did it enabled Moonshift to get a hold on Ken's shares and has ultimately probably forced Ken into a corner and with fingers crossed got us a better owner.

You are right about Eddie, but Ken's been in a corner since the day he arrived and kept fighting his way out of it. If he now gets a  deal where everyone gets paid in full he'll have pulled  off a minor miracle and earned a payday.

3 minutes ago, Walshyt said:

Nixon said the EFL dont even know the name of the buyer. Very cloak and dagger. KA loves a NDA.

Why would he tell anyone until the deal is done? For a start the buyer might get a load of other owners approaching them.

1 hour ago, Chris Custodiet said:

Yes. Deeper than Anisimov's. Lives in Lausanne. Not much to go on other than a hunch though.

P.S. Its entirely plausible that Ken needed to raise additional money to keep the show on the road but I remain unconvinced about speculative allegations of irregularities that BL's auditors didn't notice.

Surely it can’t be Jim Ratcliffe who you think it is? Didt he just buy the football club in Lausanne?

5 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

There's a problem with Howard. You can believe quite a lot of what he says but I'm afraid there are occasions when you simply can't

The first really loud alarm bell went off when Howard claimed that Michael James could transfer the £5.5m debt owed by Bolton Whites Hotel to PBP into his own name, when MJ owned only 20% of PBP, and then draw on the £5.5million free of tax.

Why you’ve chosen to bring this up again I don’t know, but what I actually said was: 

Isnt it plausible that the two main shareholders (and presumably friends) of PBP came to an arrangement whereby the debt was transferred to MJ in return for him giving up future compensation, and that under such a scenario it would be MJ loaning FV/the club money. 

I intimated that MJ’s rationale for this was simply a life long adoration of the club and a desire to be on the board/involved. 

I also latterly suggested that perhaps there was no conversion and this was simply a condition of the loan re-negotiation. 

At no point have I claimed to have inner knowledge of the FV bid or consortium so it’s simply a challenge to my interpretation of a possible scenario, should that really ring alarm bells? 

What I have claimed all along is some knowledge of the Moonshift rationale/position and knowledge of a second bidder; who just happened to show their hand on the day that I said they would. 

If you simply seek negativity then may i suggest you join Mr Iles’ platform.

5 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

There's a problem with Howard. You can believe quite a lot of what he says but I'm afraid there are occasions when you simply can't

The first really loud alarm bell went off when Howard claimed that Michael James could transfer the £5.5m debt owed by Bolton Whites Hotel to PBP into his own name, when MJ owned only 20% of PBP, and then draw on the £5.5million free of tax.

 

FWIW, I don't disagree. Howard said all along his guys were operating in the background and waiting Ken out. Then he said Ken was lying about being in advanced talks with another bidder. Then it came out in court that a new bidder apparently exists. Now he says that new bidder is the one he's known about, they just decided to short-cut the process and pay Ken what he wants.

If other people think he's telling the truth that's fine, maybe he is, but what he's saying makes Ken out to be a even bigger cunt than anyone thought possible. Which takes some doing.

 

8 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

If you simply seek negativity then may i suggest you join Mr Iles’ platform.

I think Howard just politely called you out as a cunt Chris 🤪

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