Mantra Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Howardroark said: So KA is essentially claiming that the letter stating the 14 day notice was sent to an address that he wasn’t at (probably stadium) and as such should commence from when he received it (Weds last week). Its difficult when there’s a sole director and if he can prove he wasn’t at the stadium/address then yes possibly legitimate. Although hopefully the content of this forum and his/Lee’s browsing habits might counter that argument. Surely whoever deals with the challenge will show some common sense and realise Ken is being unreasonable. Can't see the court being allowed to see Ken and Lee's browsing habits as proof, without a warrant of some sort? Trying not to think too negatively but in all honesty we sound like we're fucked.
Howardroark Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, JJ10 said: Thanks Howard. So how do your group know if they’ve got the go ahead to take the shares tomorrow or not ? And what action do they take or not take now? How does tomorrow pan out? If KA proves he didn’t get the notice letter then the likelihood is that he will liquidate.
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 It would seem strange, that Ken wouldn't have any mail redirected. Moreover if he didn't, then that's his fault- otherwise it seems a way of avoiding taking responsibility. Whether the powers that be see it that way, well fuck knows. Hopefully, they'll see him for what he is, and tell him to get away politely.
Traf Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, Mantra said: Can't see the court being allowed to see Ken and Lee's browsing habits as proof, without a warrant of some sort? I can almost hear the noise of a hard drive being destroyed...
Howardroark Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Andersons correspondance address is listed as the stadium on Companies House - Wether he was in residence or not, surely that was the correct address to send it too Inner Circle isn’t, if it was sent to the stadium then it’s not the right address, the addresses are London and Switzerland Edited April 1, 2019 by Howardroark A
Wigan White pt2 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Howardroark said: So KA is essentially claiming that the letter stating the 14 day notice was sent to an address that he wasn’t at (probably stadium) and as such should commence from when he received it (Weds last week). Its difficult when there’s a sole director and if he can prove he wasn’t at the stadium/address then yes possibly legitimate. Although hopefully the content of this forum and his/Lee’s browsing habits might counter that argument. In this day and age, would an electronic copy of the novation not have been sent to KA as well as the physical letter, or is it all done solely through manual means? Edited April 1, 2019 by Wigan White pt2
JJ10 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Howardroark said: If KA proves he didn’t get the notice letter then the likelihood is that he will liquidate. How long does he have to prove it? And when will your group know if he has or not? How does tomorrow play out ? Does your group have to wait for word on if he’s proved it or not, or if they’ve managed to take the shares?
Mantra Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Traf said: I can almost hear the noise of a hard drive being destroyed... Wouldn't be the first time Lee's destroyed his hard drive. Make of that what you will. Let's just say he had quite the shock when he realised incognito mode doesn't hide everything.
Mantra Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, Wigan White pt2 said: In this day and age, would an electronic copy of the novation not have been sent to Ken as well as the physical letter, or is it all done solely through manual means? A good point. Why wouldn't they just inform Ken via email?
Howardroark Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, JJ10 said: How long does he have to prove it? And when will your group know if he has or not? How does tomorrow play out ? Does your group have to wait for word on if he’s proved it or not, or if they’ve managed to take the shares? KA will try to gain an injunction on the basis of non receipt. If he gets that then they will probably pull out.
Benny The Ball Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Howardroark said: So KA is essentially claiming that the letter stating the 14 day notice was sent to an address that he wasn’t at (probably stadium) and as such should commence from when he received it (Weds last week). Its difficult when there’s a sole director and if he can prove he wasn’t at the stadium/address then yes possibly legitimate. Although hopefully the content of this forum and his/Lee’s browsing habits might counter that argument. Howard I am not sure that is correct ? The charge document ( Moonshift - Inner Circle ) gives the address for notices in respect of the Chargor as being C/O Walker Morris and names 3 individuals within that firm I cannot believe that CRS would get that wrong
frank_spencer Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Traf said: She's an absolute hero!
Howardroark Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, Mantra said: A good point. Why wouldn't they just inform Ken via email? It’s the notice of the notice period. Electronic sending isn’t classed as proof of receipt.
gonzo Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Howardroark said: KA will try to gain an injunction on the basis of non receipt. If he gets that then they will probably pull out. Fucks sake
Traf Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) That reminds me, Spider, I had a poached egg for lunch Edited April 1, 2019 by Traf
Jol_BWFC Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, Howardroark said: Inner Circle isn’t Should have spent a few extra quid and served it at every address they bloody know of, including getting a local process server to deliver it by hand to any registered / known addresses in Lux and Monaco. Sweaty has probably moored his yatch somewhere he can’t be found.
Howardroark Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Benny The Ball said: Howard I am not sure that is correct ? The charge document ( Moonshift - Inner Circle ) gives the address for notices in respect of the Chargor as being C/O Walker Morris and names 3 individuals within that firm I cannot believe that CRS would get that wrong Quite possible, but how do you prove receipt unless there’s a signatory at WM? As I said, i have no idea which address it was sent to, only that he’s claiming only to be in receipt as of last Weds
JJ10 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, Howardroark said: Quite possible, but how do you prove receipt unless there’s a signatory at WM? As I said, i have no idea which address it was sent to, only that he’s claiming only to be in receipt as of last Weds When will we know if his plan of non receipt has worked or not ?
jmjhb Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Howardroark said: KA will try to gain an injunction on the basis of non receipt. If he gets that then they will probably pull out. That's us done then
Spider Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Can WWays not buy it? Smiffs has a few quid, and Traf can just chuck it all on a few "geegeez" What the fuck will we fall out about now?
Mantra Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) OK so quick recap because a lot of questions have been asked and answered in the last few pages: Ken is seeking liquidation as he'll get more money that way than selling to the Mystery bidders. The mystery bidders (who bought the moonshift debt and gave Ken notice that they would be reclaiming his shares if he hadn't sold by Wednesday 3rd April) are having their ability to reclaim the shares challenged by Ken. Ken's essentially saying he didn't get notified because the notice of reclaiming shares was sent to the wrong address. He's therefore going to seek an injunction - if successful then the Mystery bidders will most likely pull out of the deal and Bolton will be liquidated. Howard you've previously said you've come on here to offer comfort. I think now more than any other time we need some. I know you're saying there's still time to do a deal, and I don't want you to tip off Ken to the Dark Horse's plan to deal with Ken's antics nor do I want you to offer false comfort. But what hope do we have left, is it a sliver of hope or a beacon? Whose hands does this now lie in? The judge on Wednesday? Cheers. Edited April 1, 2019 by Mantra
Daveh Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Sickening, that's a fucking shameful post. And potentially libellous I would suggest 🙄
paulhanley Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Ken and Lee have two choices. Do the right thing by a town and its football club and take the "some you win, some you lose" approach to business or think of their own financial bottom line only and therefore spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulders. There'll be a lot of very pissed off people if this goes tits up. If you're reading this Anderson, now is the time to show you've got a shred of integrity in you.
Traf Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Daveh said: And potentially libellous I would suggest 🙄 If a "joke" like that sickens people, then they're probably in the wrong place. It's a bit like going to a Jimmy Carr gig and taking offence. One of my favourite Jimmy Carr jokes asks how do you get a gay to shag a woman...
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