When players leave us I generally have an opinion on whether they'll be any good elsewhere.  Madine as expected is struggling to get a game at Championship level, not on bench for Cardiff today although I wouldnt know if he's injured.  Vela scored apparently, so did Donaldson.  Just seen Joe Williams 2 yellow cards in 1st 20 minutes for Wigan, what a poor player at that level, he wont last long in their midfield.  Had the cheek to look surprised after 2 dangerous late challenges we are all too familiar with.  For all our struggles I really dont miss seeing the laboured efforts of Madine, Pratley, Williams, Taylor etc.  Its refreshing to see some actual talent on the pitch even if they are getting out muscled and bullied.  

Interesting read that, honking indeed!!  In May we would have happily kept him thinking we would only sign worse players in our situation, but he wouldn't get in our team now unless it was in the same role that Buckley has, a none scoring 'forward'.  Good summary here:

Vela just annoys me because he has nothing, he does a job that any adult who keeps fit and likes football can do. He doesn’t take any responsibility with the ball, doesn’t batter into challenges with high energy, certainly isn’t an attacking threat and to top it off, doesn’t possess any great energy levels or anything, just that of a normal guy who looks after his fitness. There’ll be a good amount of people in the crowd every week who can offer what he can.

 

 

 

One player who always seems to get a shift in is Chris Basham. Thought he'd just about disappeared after he left us, but he's done a cracking job for Sheff Utd and doesn't really look out of place in the Premiership so far.

10 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Interesting read that, honking indeed!!  In May we would have happily kept him thinking we would only sign worse players in our situation, but he wouldn't get in our team now unless it was in the same role that Buckley has, a none scoring 'forward'.  Good summary here:

Vela just annoys me because he has nothing, he does a job that any adult who keeps fit and likes football can do. He doesn’t take any responsibility with the ball, doesn’t batter into challenges with high energy, certainly isn’t an attacking threat and to top it off, doesn’t possess any great energy levels or anything, just that of a normal guy who looks after his fitness. There’ll be a good amount of people in the crowd every week who can offer what he can.

 

 

 

Funny one Vela. A couple of seasons ago he had a purple patch as an attacking midfielder that had goals in his game - 10 in 2016/17 (had to wiki that) but then turned into a shit Darren Pratley just chasing & harrying & not much else in his game. Probably a decent enough League 1 player under a manager that plays more football than Parky, but looks like that's his level.

11 hours ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

Vela’s not going down well at all. 

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?342146-Vela&p=5935835#post5935835

Good read that - well spotted.

Some of these deluded sweaty socks think they're playing in the best league in the World!

Vela never was very good. Hugely overrated by Bolton fans in my view. A willing runner but never developed into a proper midfield player or someone playing behind a striker. Not good enough on or off the ball. 

1 hour ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Good read that - well spotted.

Some of these deluded sweaty socks think they're playing in the best league in the World!

In fairness he's not even in the top three midfielders in the Hibs squad, although Hibs fans do continue to mount an ongoing unfair comparison between every midfielder and John McGinn.

I happened to watch some of the Hibs v Hearts game the other night, and besides playing a small part in the run up to a stonking long range goal I barely noticed him playing. Shame really. Was a big fish in a small pond in Bolton. His own worst enemy at times.

Vela was shit here too, so good to see him being consistent.

Doidge hat-trick for Hibs at St Johnstone, finally getting a start after the manager was sacked. No place for Vela which is no surprise.

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Doidge hat-trick for Hibs at St Johnstone, finally getting a start after the manager was sacked. No place for Vela which is no surprise.

Doidge has been getting plenty of starts, he’s just been shite (until Saturday). 

I wonder who the oldest Bolton first team player still alive is?

Tommy Banks must be up there

16 hours ago, SatanGreavsie said:

I wonder who the oldest Bolton first team player still alive is?

Probably Johnny Wheeler of the 1953 cup final team - he was 91 in July.

He came from Tranmere in 1951 and 5 years later stepped down from the top flight to join Liverpool, and went on to score a hat-trick in 5 minutes to rescue a game against Port Vale.

 

What about Aaron Wilbraham or Kevin Poole? 😉

On 12/11/2019 at 12:44, MalcolmW said:

Probably Johnny Wheeler of the 1953 cup final team - he was 91 in July.

He came from Tranmere in 1951 and 5 years later stepped down from the top flight to join Liverpool, and went on to score a hat-trick in 5 minutes to rescue a game against Port Vale.

 

Not any more

RIP

So Doug Holden, then? 

3 minutes ago, enzo gambaro said:

So Doug Holden, then? 

No - he is younger than Tommy Banks.

23 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

No - he is younger than Tommy Banks.

How many are still alive from 58? Is there any left from 53 team? Just checked only Doug Holden left from 53 and the only player left who played in 53 and 58.

Edited November 17, 20196 yr by Mounts Kipper

Madine started for Cardiff (I'm assuming their new manager Neil Harris hasnt seen him play for a while?).  I'm fairly sure he;s not even been on the bench so far this season under Warnock.  Replaced after 65 minutes.  Nice assist from Oztumer for the 2nd goal.

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Madine started for Cardiff (I'm assuming their new manager Neil Harris hasnt seen him play for a while?).  I'm fairly sure he;s not even been on the bench so far this season under Warnock.  Replaced after 65 minutes.  Nice assist from Oztumer for the 2nd goal.

We pulled Cardiff’s pants down. 8 mill. Colin wankers Best Buy 

He got booked for diving. Still a pussy I see

11 hours ago, jules_darby said:

He got booked for diving. Still a pussy I see

Not as much a pussy as our entire team yesterday.

Anyway you loved him when he was smashing the defenders all over the pitch and scoring all those goals

53 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

Not as much a pussy as our entire team yesterday.

Anyway you loved him when he was smashing the defenders all over the pitch and scoring all those goals

Smashing defenders? I must’ve missed that 5 minutes. Was it just after half time while I was still at the bar?

Scoring all those goals?  Murphy is still a far better goalscorer and he's about 10 years older than Madine was when he played for us. I've nothing against him, I just dont like that Parky inflicted him on us for so long.

Wibraham 3 goals today, 2 in the right net and an OG.

Tom Walker scored for Stockport.