Furlough Roll Call

[Sweep]

31 minutes ago, Traf said:

I think today is the day that employers can claim the furlough cash, isn't it?

apparently so, they reckon they can process up to 450K claims per hour.................67K claims already made in the first 30 minutes

[Traf]

19 minutes ago, Sweep said:

apparently so, they reckon they can process up to 450K claims per hour.................67K claims already made in the first 30 minutes

And payments made within 6 days.

Which (and I apologise for banging on about it) makes the treatment of Self-Employed folk look even shabbier. We will be invited to apply in June and get a decision/payment 3 weeks later.  

[radcliffe white]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

And payments made within 6 days.

Which (and I apologise for banging on about it) makes the treatment of Self-Employed folk look even shabbier. We will be invited to apply in June and get a decision/payment 3 weeks later.  

You self employed traf?

never mentioned😀

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

And payments made within 6 days.

 

Even though its miles better than the deal you tax dodgers are getting, its still nit good enough for some of mine

Due to be paid today and its a crisis as it might be a week late

Im fortunate that i dont have many fixed outgoings but if i did, id sure as fuck been on to my landlord or bank weeks back

[bwfc2003]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

If thats the money, your employer does it

Then pays you

I am the employer and just managed to get online and submit my claim

[Casino]

1 minute ago, bwfc2003 said:

I am the employer and just managed to get online and submit my claim

Good stuff

I was expecting massive crashage of the system

We had 2 under starters orders this morning

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Even though its miles better than the deal you tax dodgers are getting, its still nit good enough for some of mine

Due to be paid today and its a crisis as it might be a week late

Im fortunate that i dont have many fixed outgoings but if i did, id sure as fuck been on to my landlord or bank weeks back

Tax dodgers? How dare you.

Tax avoiders.

[ErnestTurnip]

Does an employer go online and make this claim every 3 weeks for their furloughed staff ?

So if you were going to unfurlough (if that's a word) someone you would wait until you had claimed for the previous 3 week period and then have em back in and not include them on the next claim OR have em back in whenever and just don't include them on the claim.

If that makes sense.

[Casino]

Question 1 - i believe so, yes

[Traf]

1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

You self employed traf?

never mentioned😀

Yeah, mate. You've done well to work that out after I've been so vague about it 😉

[MickyD]

On 17/04/2020 at 19:30, Casino said:

Out of interest what are you being told about holidays

Don't want to be a dick with my lot but same time, I can't afford em all coming back with full holidays

I know morrisons are not allowing folk to cancel holidays for that exact reason. 

[little whitt]

I just tried to clam other morning that UC took 45 bastard mins give up 

some woman rang yesterday get money on the 24 may and a loan now 

ive paid enough MAD MAX in my time

[Thorpey]

Anyone any idea if an employer can do this?

Mate has been waiting five weeks for his furlough confirmation and cash and now his employer has sent him a letter saying that he's decided not to furlough, confirmed that he has been released from his contract from his last working day over five weeks ago but will re-employ him when the business opens again.

Sounds well dodgy to me.  Probably pocketing the cash.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, Thorpey said:

Anyone any idea if an employer can do this?

Mate has been waiting five weeks for his furlough confirmation and cash and now his employer has sent him a letter saying that he's decided not to furlough, confirmed that he has been released from his contract from his last working day over five weeks ago but will re-employ him when the business opens again.

Sounds well dodgy to me.  Probably pocketing the cash.

Redundancy due then surely?

[DazBob]

7 minutes ago, Thorpey said:

Anyone any idea if an employer can do this?

Mate has been waiting five weeks for his furlough confirmation and cash and now his employer has sent him a letter saying that he's decided not to furlough, confirmed that he has been released from his contract from his last working day over five weeks ago but will re-employ him when the business opens again.

Sounds well dodgy to me.  Probably pocketing the cash.

If he's and actual full time employee then his employer will need to give him his P45 from when he stopped working, so his employer won't be able to pocket the furlough cash.

By you saying he's been released from his contract though, makes it sound like he's a contractor? If so, I'm not sure he'd qualify for furlough anyway.

[Zico]

9 minutes ago, Thorpey said:

Anyone any idea if an employer can do this?

Mate has been waiting five weeks for his furlough confirmation and cash and now his employer has sent him a letter saying that he's decided not to furlough, confirmed that he has been released from his contract from his last working day over five weeks ago but will re-employ him when the business opens again.

Sounds well dodgy to me.  Probably pocketing the cash.

Do employers get the cash to distribute or does the money go direct to the employee?

I'd assume the latter, but, sounds like something has come up when filling out the furlough application that's put the boss off applying

[Casino]

It goes to the employer

[Thorpey]

2 minutes ago, DazBob said:

If he's and actual full time employee then his employer will need to give him his P45 from when he stopped working, so his employer won't be able to pocket the furlough cash.

By you saying he's been released from his contract though, makes it sound like he's a contractor? If so, I'm not sure he'd qualify for furlough anyway.

To clarify - he is employed and paid via PAYE

[Zico]

Just now, Casino said:

It goes to the employer

In which case it'd be fairly easy to find out if an employer got cash for furloghed employees but didn't distribute it to them

[Casino]

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

In which case it'd be fairly easy to find out if an employer got cash for furloghed employees but didn't distribute it to them

In theory

But good luck getting through to hmrc

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Employer being a cunt then by the sounds of it.

[radcliffe white]

Out of interest did anyone get full pay for the bank holidays just gone? 

[DazBob]

As said above, he's going to have to give the bloke his P45 as of 5 weeks ago. If his employer is claiming furlough for him after that date then HMRC will surely rumble him.

They'll be all over going after employers claiming furlough fraudulently.

[Zico]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

In theory

But good luck getting through to hmrc

Might as well try, or write a letter, better than doing nowt

Or the HRMC set up a system that allows you to check what you're due when you input your NI number

They aren't just going to sit back and let employees fuck their staff over

[Thorpey]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Employer being a cunt then by the sounds of it.

Totally agree.

I'll get him to set up in oppo to him when the time is right and rob his customers off him!