It’s kicking off

Russian police arrest over 1000 protesters

Alexei Navalny, has been poisoned and arrested and still had this documentary released 

His wife has been arrested as well. 

Some serious minerals on this chap 

Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Rudy

Daily atrocities continue.  And to think Trumpy has invited Putin to join his “Board of Peace”.  Says it all really.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyr6p30054o

Harrowing reports, but not surprising. Evil to their own as well as the Ukrainians.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7gw3l395ro

13 hours ago, Bertie said:

Harrowing reports, but not surprising. Evil to their own as well as the Ukrainians.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7gw3l395ro

Watched it tonight, what to believe eh! if the people being interviewed are totally truthful, which I believe they are, we are in for a few more years of this shit, Russians are horrible cunts and I have first hand experience of them

these thing happen in war

13 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

Watched it tonight, what to believe eh! if the people being interviewed are totally truthful, which I believe they are, we are in for a few more years of this shit, Russians are horrible cunts and I have first hand experience of them

This will rumble on for many, many more years - it's almost impossible to "fix" now. There is no off ramp for Russia, they'll just keep going, the only way it ends is if Putin stops being President.......but even then, he may be replaced by somebody equally bonkers.

 

Aye, and unfortunately many thousands of innocent lives will be lost on both sides

On 09/01/2026 at 19:00, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Been following all this closely.

Given the reported figures of Russian deaths, and the rapid increase in Ukrainian drone production, estimates suggest they will increase to over 60,000 per month fairly soon.

Absolutely bonkers. 

We've just received an order for something that we supply specifically for this market - 400K units for delivery ASAP - apparently that's only 2 months worth...........

As I've said before, long may it continue 😁

45 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We've just received an order for something that we supply specifically for this market - 400K units for delivery ASAP - apparently that's only 2 months worth...........

As I've said before, long may it continue 😁

Last figure I heard was around 9000 drones per day being used.

Iirc, the want to produce around 4,000,000 units per year.

Add to that any imported ones.

Only question is can they produce/buy enough explosives to go with them! 😀

Their target of 50,000 dead Russians per month may well be achievable. 

Saw one short film where they estimated that drones are only effective in around 10-25% of cases, as many are lost to gunshot fire etc.

As around 80% all deaths are due to drones, taking the worst case, that's 40,000 killed by drones, at 10% efficiency. 

In other words 400,000 drones per month!

Last figures I saw were around 35000 killed in December (May have been January), which would tie in approximately with around 9000 per day, at a bit over 10% efficiency. 

Horrific really, when industrial killing boils down to upgraded "boys' toys", and their production rates.

Do you own shares in your own employer?

52 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Last figure I heard was around 9000 drones per day being used.

Iirc, the want to produce around 4,000,000 units per year.

 

There are already far, far more than 4M drones being manufactured (for military use), and that number will continue to increase. 

21 hours ago, Sweep said:

There are already far, far more than 4M drones being manufactured (for military use), and that number will continue to increase. 

Just over there?

Figures for last year show around 200,000 plus per month.

So some more scaling up required to hit almost 400,000 per month.

All whilst Russia is trying to hit there factories. 

Some going that, especially if they have now exceeded that.

 

Edited February 26Feb 26 by Tonge moor green jacket

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Just over there?

Figures for last year show around 200,000 plus per month.

So some more scaling up required to hit almost 400,000 per month.

All whilst Russia is trying to hit there factories. 

Some going that, especially if they have now exceeded that.

 

....remember, both sides are manufacturing drones at a rate of knots....not just the Ukrainian side 😉

Also, loads being manufactured (for military/security use) in the US, Israel, Iran, Germany, India, Pakistan, Turkey and China.

For commercial drones, China still has (allegedly) around 80% of the world market - how many of those commercial drones can be re-engineered, who knows....

33 minutes ago, Sweep said:

....remember, both sides are manufacturing drones at a rate of knots....not just the Ukrainian side 😉

Also, loads being manufactured (for military/security use) in the US, Israel, Iran, Germany, India, Pakistan, Turkey and China.

For commercial drones, China still has (allegedly) around 80% of the world market - how many of those commercial drones can be re-engineered, who knows....

Indeed.

Was just checking that your "more than 4m", was for everyone, not just Ukraine.

Would imagine there are umpteen millions being made per month at the moment- understandable of course- but how many will become outdated and ineffective through technology improvements, before nations get chance to use them?

Really getting into sci-fi type stuff now.

"I drone"

 

Not going into the politics of how and why this all kicked off. Commentators mainly saying as things stand it'll run another couple nof years based on Ukrainian manpower vs Russian economy.

If NATO, EU or whoever want to end it soner we either:

1. Agree to the new borders as Russian proposals.

2. Go in hard and use western technology against Russian cannon fodder.

At the moment the tactics hark back to the American Civil War which was the first industrialised conflict, drones have replaced cannon balls and artillery shells. 

Nothing will happen either way and it will drag on until both sides lose all their energy, but as said earlier the arms and drone manufacturers will get very fat and happy in the process... this type of warfare is obscene.

6 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Not going into the politics of how and why this all kicked off. Commentators mainly saying as things stand it'll run another couple nof years based on Ukrainian manpower vs Russian economy.

If NATO, EU or whoever want to end it soner we either:

1. Agree to the new borders as Russian proposals.

2. Go in hard and use western technology against Russian cannon fodder.

At the moment the tactics hark back to the American Civil War which was the first industrialised conflict, drones have replaced cannon balls and artillery shells. 

Nothing will happen either way and it will drag on until both sides lose all their energy, but as said earlier the arms and drone manufacturers will get very fat and happy in the process... this type of warfare is obscene.

So basically you think Ukraine should surrender.

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

So basically you think Ukraine should surrender.

Read my post and shut up

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So basically you think Ukraine should surrender.

No

he gave 2 options, and didn’t indicate a preference.

15 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Read my post and shut up

I read it, and I've also read all your other Putin-appeasing posts. No wonder you support Farage.

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Not going into the politics of how and why this all kicked off. Commentators mainly saying as things stand it'll run another couple nof years based on Ukrainian manpower vs Russian economy.

If NATO, EU or whoever want to end it soner we either:

1. Agree to the new borders as Russian proposals.

2. Go in hard and use western technology against Russian cannon fodder.

At the moment the tactics hark back to the American Civil War which was the first industrialised conflict, drones have replaced cannon balls and artillery shells. 

Nothing will happen either way and it will drag on until both sides lose all their energy, but as said earlier the arms and drone manufacturers will get very fat and happy in the process... this type of warfare is obscene.

number 2

or carry on as they are

came across this author who does regular social posts talking about random stuff which are generally interesting or thought provoking

he did on the other day about the drones

 

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Not going into the politics of how and why this all kicked off. Commentators mainly saying as things stand it'll run another couple nof years based on Ukrainian manpower vs Russian economy.

If NATO, EU or whoever want to end it soner we either:

1. Agree to the new borders as Russian proposals.

2. Go in hard and use western technology against Russian cannon fodder.

At the moment the tactics hark back to the American Civil War which was the first industrialised conflict, drones have replaced cannon balls and artillery shells. 

Nothing will happen either way and it will drag on until both sides lose all their energy, but as said earlier the arms and drone manufacturers will get very fat and happy in the process... this type of warfare is obscene.

Mate that's Chamberlain levels of peace in our time nonsense.

12 hours ago, Zico said:

number 2

or carry on as they are

I am tending to prefer the second option... the west should now quit talking, go in hard and give the Russians a bloody nose. Otherwise, if what I am reading and hearing is correct, this shit show is going to last another couple of years.

Edited February 27Feb 27 by Dimron

5 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I am tending to prefer the second option... the west should now quit talking, go in hard and give the Russians a bloody nose. Otherwise, if what I am reading and hearing is correct, this shit show is going to last another couple of years.

I think everyone except Russia will be "ok" with that if it means Russia don't get what they want, because they shouldn't

and yes, give Ukraine all the support they need to keep going at it

It's probably going to drag on for as long as Putin is in power. Even then there is no guarantee it stops. I don't think their general population has any idea how many lives have been lost on this so called special operation.

32 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

It's probably going to drag on for as long as Putin is in power. Even then there is no guarantee it stops. I don't think their general population has any idea how many lives have been lost on this so called special operation.

There is a third option, Regime change... as P has murdered his opponents it will be down to the west to assassinate him and install an interim government.

Unfortunately it looks as if we will let it drag on for the next couple of years or so until either the Ukrainians run out of men or the Russians run out of money.

Maybe one day the Russians will just up sticks and go home as sanctions and attrition bite?

The drone manufacturers will be the only winners... just like the Armstrongs in WW1

 

 

My other half has a Russian mate, he lives in Poland now but his mum is in St Petersburg 

Apparently Facebook, WhatsApp etc are all banned

So she uses a VPN to keep in touch with him

Even that sounds dodgy and she'll likely be shot in her bed for doing so