Meanwhile in Israel

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Hamas say some vile rhetoric about Jews that dehumanise them. And they act on it

Extremists across Israel say equally vile rhetoric about Arabs. And act on it.

Find me anything Hamas have said.& you can find something equally abhorrent from extremists in Israel.

 

 It’s not hard to find. Extremist settlers regularly talk about wiping out filthy Arabs and dehumanise them. They are funded by the government & actively supported by the IDF. Who fwiw used to protect these Palestinian communities.

 They are regularly beaten, even murdered & have their entire livelihood & community destroyed until there is no choice but to leave. It’s not ‘moving house’. 

 they are being wiped out. 

To save yourself anymore confusion just go back a few pages and read the original comment. This is fkin painful .

[wanderer1984]

54 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

He’s had a mare on the ethnic cleansing definition.

What have I said the definition of ethnic cleansing is?

Keep banging your drum 🥁 

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

What have I said the definition of ethnic cleansing is?

Keep banging your drum 🥁 

I’ve been saying since this first started “these things happen in war” the usuals say they don’t. I doubt any of them have checked the combatants to civilians ratio  in similar conflicts. Maybe they will come out of their echo chamber if they did. 

[Zico]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Is 60k to many? 

Too many what? Deaths?

Yes it is

Unless they were all Hamas

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

Too many what? Deaths?

Yes it is

Unless they were all Hamas

According to reports Approx 10-15k are Hamas. No one likes to mention these though. It’s always 60k Palestinians have been killed, 

[wanderer1984]

8 hours ago, royal white said:

I’ve been saying since this first started “these things happen in war” the usuals say they don’t. I doubt any of them have checked the combatants to civilians ratio  in similar conflicts. Maybe they will come out of their echo chamber if they did. 

LW doesn’t love facts. Makes stuff up thinking he's clever ... its boring.

Gets found out then changes the narrative to suit ... Rinse repeat.

He's a expert at it. 

Lad's been rattled more than a beggers tin.

It's why I don't bother much 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2025 by wanderer1984

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Proper looking forward to it, they're always a good show. 🇵🇸

Hope you have all the right gear. You could even just use red, white, black and green beads?

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, Zico said:

I'd say they're quite adept 

Would be good to know how many of the 6m still have a house they can go back to when Hamas are finally removed 

 

Maybe the Hamas information bureau can help you with that. All the houses they haven't hidden behind innocents in?

[Casino]

11 hours ago, Bertie said:

Yes, don’t make false accusations.  It’s only the second guy talking about a genocide.  The first guy is just advocating committing a war crime.

Genocide

Ethnic cleansing

Holocaust

Call it what you will

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Maybe the Hamas information bureau can help you with that. All the houses they haven't hidden behind innocents in?

350-450 miles of tunnels supposedly.

Rocket launching sites, access sites etc all interconnected, and often situated in public areas, including inside private dwellings.

Booby traps/IEDs within them too.

An incredible set up really, and not an easily destroyed target. 

[London Wanderer]

9 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

What have I said the definition of ethnic cleansing is?

Keep banging your drum 🥁 

Never said you did, that wasn’t my point. 

I was trying to say that you’ve gone & said it isn’t, without bothering to look at the definition.

 I’ll try the question again. & see if you can attempt to answer without deflecting shite to others about me making stuff up & getting rattled 😂😉

 based on that definition of ethnic cleansing … what’s your reasoning behind saying the evictions, land grabs & settlements in the West Bank don’t amount to a ‘forced removal from an area’ ?

Genuinely curious here ? not looking for a petty argument 😄

And fwiw, I can understand why folk aren’t using the word genocide. I’m on the fence with that one, but can see why many don’t see it as such. Time will tell. 

[London Wanderer]

10 hours ago, royal white said:

To save yourself anymore confusion just go back a few pages and read the original comment. This is fkin painful .

To save yourself any further pain

 go back & read the second sentence in your comment I responded to.

Christ it’s like you can’t cope whenever the conversation goes a certain way. Suddenly it’s back to fixating on meaningless things & telling folk they can’t read 😂

9 hours ago, royal white said:

I’ve been saying since this first started “these things happen in war” 

You certainly have. And that comment has been regularly ridiculed. Lacks any context whatsoever. 

Can you point to a recent conflict involving the UK & US where did any of the below?

- displaced an entire population 

- inflicted a man made famine on civilians,

- moved British settlements into the land & permanently evicted the local population 

- denied that nation the right to exist once the war had finished.

Edited September 12, 2025 by London Wanderer

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

350-450 miles of tunnels supposedly.

Rocket launching sites, access sites etc all interconnected, and often situated in public areas, including inside private dwellings.

Booby traps/IEDs within them too.

An incredible set up really, and not an easily destroyed target. 

Precisely why Gaza City has to be taken. All of that infrastructure needs to be permanently destroyed.

[Dimron]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Precisely why Gaza City has to be taken. All of that infrastructure needs to be permanently destroyed.

Flooding the tunnels would be an option but for the hostages... that's why Hamas won't surrender them

Edited September 12, 2025 by Dimron

[Tonge moor green jacket]

And that's going to take ages and be damned difficult. 

Do they demolish them, and risk having buildings above coming down?

Filling them in would take for ever.

Maybe DT could convert them to hotels- "Trump Tunnels"

Joking apart, maybe they will simply demolish whole areas and simply start again.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Flooding the tunnels would be an option but for the hostages... that's why Hamas won't surrender them

Egypt did that with ones that came out into their country.

Before this conflict though I think.

Long term, that would be a solution in inner city areas of high population density.

[Cheese]

17 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

And that's going to take ages and be damned difficult. 

Do they demolish them, and risk having buildings above coming down?

Filling them in would take for ever.

Maybe DT could convert them to hotels- "Trump Tunnels"

Joking apart, maybe they will simply demolish whole areas and simply start again.

"maybe"? They've already levelled massive areas. Have a look on google earth and compare the latest satellite images to those from a couple of years ago. Virtually the entire northern half of the strip is demolished.

Edited September 12, 2025 by Cheese

[bolty58]

9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Joking apart, maybe they will simply demolish whole areas and simply start again.

I think you've nailed it there mate.

[royal white]

2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

To save yourself any further pain

 go back & read the second sentence in your comment I responded to.

Christ it’s like you can’t cope whenever the conversation goes a certain way. Suddenly it’s back to fixating on meaningless things & telling folk they can’t read 😂

You certainly have. And that comment has been regularly ridiculed. Lacks any context whatsoever. 

Can you point to a recent conflict involving the UK & US where did any of the below?

- displaced an entire population 

- inflicted a man made famine on civilians,

- moved British settlements into the land & permanently evicted the local population 

- denied that nation the right to exist once the war had finished.

Yep, you made a comment that is a load of shite. 
 

And yes these things happen in wars was always in response into the death of civilians. Not sure why you need to use the U.K. and US as some kind of referencing point. It’s always happened in this kind of war and always will. 

[frank_spencer]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Hope you have all the right gear. You could even just use red, white, black and green beads?

Excellent shout, ticket in the bag, I'll go to the bead shop next time I'm at Afflecks and do as you suggest.

[Dimron]

9 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Excellent shout, ticket in the bag, I'll go to the bead shop next time I'm at Afflecks and do as you suggest.

You get your beads as long as Bolts gets a circumcision 😆

[Spider]

16 hours ago, bolty58 said:

You mustn't miss that. Can't believe the fucking scumbag is allowed to perform in the UK.

Bolty going big on the “free speech” angle again.

[DazBob]

20 minutes ago, Spider said:

Bolty going big on the “free speech” angle again.

He's all for free speech... as long as he agrees with what they're speaking about.

[bolty58]

58 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Excellent shout, ticket in the bag, I'll go to the bead shop next time I'm at Afflecks and do as you suggest.

Here to help.

[bolty58]

48 minutes ago, Dimron said:

You get your beads as long as Bolts gets a circumcision 😆

Another one!!!!! FFS.