Meanwhile in Israel

[royal white]

55 minutes ago, Spider said:

@royal white

Look, look what’s happening

look

Must have hit the subtitle button! 

[Spider]

Evatt makes subs faster than Israel do invasions 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Still doing air strikes today. Doubt any invasion will happen whilst that's going on.

[TM Trotter]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yes and no.

Maybe yes in terms of British troops serving in Israel/palestine at the time.

However:

Jewish applies to a people of a given faith.

Palestinian applies to a section of the Muslim community. Expand that equally to all Muslims to match, and simply no.

Also consider not just troops- terrorism is applicable to all- and again different league. 

Just to pick up on this (and I think the original point was moot, btw), but you're comparing a global Jewish population of 16m with a global Muslim population of well over 1.5bn! 

With around 7.5m Palestinians living in the middle east (including Lebanon, Jordan, etc.), it's probably a more fair comparison. 

But as I say (in the grand scheme), it's moot!

[wanderer1984]

@London Wanderer Humza wants the Scots to take in Palestinian refugees. Putting your name down or dont you have enough room?

[little whitt]

7 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

@London Wanderer Humza wants the Scots to take in Palestinian refugees. Putting your name down or dont you have enough room?

O Yes the Jocks will love that 

He will be out soon 

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, fatolive said:

Not sure , but don’t think so, know there is a lot of support for the Palestinian cause 

not sure why the IRA it’s relevant to Jewish terror attacks or why you’ve asked to be honest 

 

though I might have an inclination . 

 

Couldn't read your 'inclination'?

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

@London Wanderer Humza wants the Scots to take in Palestinian refugees. Putting your name down or dont you have enough room?

I hope and expect that he will take a family of five at the very least. After a short while they'll be off. "Fuck off - mung beans for breakfast, candlelight, cycling everywhere? We had a better standard of living in Gaza!"

[bolty58]

36 minutes ago, little whitt said:

O Yes the Jocks will love that 

He will be out soon 

I'd like to think along with his party but then again, that would let the reds in. Be careful what you wish for.

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Still doing air strikes today. Doubt any invasion will happen whilst that's going on.

Surely they were always going to at least wait until Sleepy Joe is back in Washington on life support?

[fatolive]

47 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Couldn't read your 'inclination'?

So no answer then . 
Your comment has no relevance or point without explanation. 
will trust my hunch as to why and leave you to it. 

 

[DirtySanchez]

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 hours ago, TM Trotter said:

Just to pick up on this (and I think the original point was moot, btw), but you're comparing a global Jewish population of 16m with a global Muslim population of well over 1.5bn! 

With around 7.5m Palestinians living in the middle east (including Lebanon, Jordan, etc.), it's probably a more fair comparison. 

But as I say (in the grand scheme), it's moot!

Agree to an extent, however we do get terrorist attacks by Islamists the world over- and I include them all, as its all "anti" anyone not Muslim- and the world over you don't get Jews committing acts of terror (certainly not in any number that I've heard of).

Even proportionally, zilch is still lower than, small. 

[London Wanderer]

20 hours ago, Ani said:

This incident shows just how fucked the world is. Too many people happy to blame Israel and then too many people happy to blame Hamas. Too many people saying lefties support Hamas/Palestine and too many people saying righties (??) support Israel.

People seem more concerned that their opinion from a week ago is proved correct and others look daft than thinking about the thousands (with and without foreskins) being killed or fucked over by this war.

People can think they are right but let's be honest none of us will really ever know who did what. The say truth is the first victim in war ( or summat like that) and this just highlights it 

I have idea who fired whatever it was that hit the hospital but rather than being something that make people think 'what the fuck are we doing here?' It is being used as a spring board to increase the hatred and rhetoric. 
 

It is fucking tragic. 

 

 

20 hours ago, TM Trotter said:

Political discourse, with the assistance of social media, is now completely binary. 

No middle ground, no rational analysis - seemingly every person's opinion on everything global is all about their entrenched belief being "right".  

It's exhausting even from my Western ivory tower of safety. Meanwhile in this conflict, there are thousands dying, hundreds of thousands physically destitute, and millions in fear for their lives - no matter what side of the fence they live on, or what scripture they read.

But nah, forget the complete breakdown in the human condition caused by a few old men with massive weapons and tiny peckers, it's all about Team X or Team Y being to "blame" while the other is absolved of guilt.

Two very good posts 👍

[London Wanderer]

10 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

@London Wanderer Humza wants the Scots to take in Palestinian refugees. Putting your name down or dont you have enough room?

Haha, very good. 

I’m too grumpy past my flat sharing days. Just me and the Mrs is enough for me. I’m not Gary Lineker and I don’t have his wealth & abundance of spare rooms 🤣 

Palestinian refugees are very welcome here though. As would any Israelis that want to relocate. We’ve an aging population that needs looking after. Plus spare housing on the market now they’re cracking down on the community destroying Air B&Bs. 
 

The home office can’t reject any applications surely. Don’t get much more deserving than escaping the wrath of Hamas. They’d be as welcome as the Ukrainians 💛

[TM Trotter]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agree to an extent, however we do get terrorist attacks by Islamists the world over- and I include them all, as its all "anti" anyone not Muslim- and the world over you don't get Jews committing acts of terror (certainly not in any number that I've heard of).

Even proportionally, zilch is still lower than, small. 

Yep, fair. 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, fatolive said:

So no answer then . 
Your comment has no relevance or point without explanation. 
will trust my hunch as to why and leave you to it. 

 

OK then. Similar organisations. Indiscriminate slaughter of innocents based on religious differences and/or a perceived territorial dispute.

I can remember arms caches being discovered within the island of Ireland with Arabic symbols on the crates and statements back at the time relating to arms trading/guerilla training between terrorist groups in the middle east and Ireland (ETA was part of all that too if I remember rightly).

Is that enough for you? Is the aforementioned anything to do with the scurrilous Green Brigade regularly displaying Palestinian flags? Just asking.

[Freddie Hill]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agree to an extent, however we do get terrorist attacks by Islamists the world over- and I include them all, as its all "anti" anyone not Muslim- and the world over you don't get Jews committing acts of terror (certainly not in any number that I've heard of).

Even proportionally, zilch is still lower than, small. 

If you dig back in history you'll find the zionists are just as bad as hamas: https://israeliterroristgroups.wordpress.com/

[DirtySanchez]

2 hours ago, Freddie Hill said:

If you dig back in history you'll find the zionists are just as bad as hamas: https://israeliterroristgroups.wordpress.com/

Yeah but all that happened before the last couple of weeks

Short/selective memories 

Edited October 19, 2023 by DirtySanchez
Typo

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Freddie Hill said:

If you dig back in history you'll find the zionists are just as bad as hamas: https://israeliterroristgroups.wordpress.com/

Aye, I had a gander early on after this latest conflict kicked off.

Was already aware of attacks on British troops back in the day.

Politician assassinated.

Posted earlier in the thread that there had been trouble: Britain doing its bit to keep all happy and not succeeding with global events taking over.

There was violence from both sides.

Since then the approach from both sides has been chalk and cheese.

[fatolive]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

OK then. Similar organisations. Indiscriminate slaughter of innocents based on religious differences and/or a perceived territorial dispute.

I can remember arms caches being discovered within the island of Ireland with Arabic symbols on the crates and statements back at the time relating to arms trading/guerilla training between terrorist groups in the middle east and Ireland (ETA was part of all that too if I remember rightly).

Is that enough for you? Is the aforementioned anything to do with the scurrilous Green Brigade regularly displaying Palestinian flags? Just asking.

Similar to the Jewish terrorists who bombed British soldiers then yes? 
similar to  every terrorists known to man from every persuasion. 

your point is irrelevant apart from being directed at me 

why you asked me directly about hamas  links to the IRA ( which I don’t think there were) when I mentioned the Jewish atrocities tells its own story mate . 
I’m not one of your usual nemesis on here and I won’t turn a thread into bickering , ruining it for everyone else reading , TMGJ also disagreed with what I wrote, but articulated a reasoned argument / different point of view, backed with other points for debate if needed, you, you asked an irrelevant question and you know why you asked it. 
you can’t get away from the fact you’d have been pro Palestine if you were around in the 40s , due to the actions of Jewish terror groups then . 
doesn’t mean you would be or need be now, 
that’s my point , absolutely fuck all to do with Ireland, the IRA or Celtic , it’s about Jewish / Israeli terror groups campaign against British governance 

[DirtySanchez]

40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye, I had a gander early on after this latest conflict kicked off.

Was already aware of attacks on British troops back in the day.

Politician assassinated.

Posted earlier in the thread that there had been trouble: Britain doing its bit to keep all happy and not succeeding with global events taking over.

There was violence from both sides.

Since then the approach from both sides has been chalk and cheese.

Re read it

Edited October 19, 2023 by DirtySanchez

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

Re read it

Haha

[Zico]

1 hour ago, fatolive said:

Similar to the Jewish terrorists who bombed British soldiers then yes? 
similar to  every terrorists known to man from every persuasion. 

your point is irrelevant apart from being directed at me 

why you asked me directly about hamas  links to the IRA ( which I don’t think there were) when I mentioned the Jewish atrocities tells its own story mate . 
I’m not one of your usual nemesis on here and I won’t turn a thread into bickering , ruining it for everyone else reading , TMGJ also disagreed with what I wrote, but articulated a reasoned argument / different point of view, backed with other points for debate if needed, you, you asked an irrelevant question and you know why you asked it. 
you can’t get away from the fact you’d have been pro Palestine if you were around in the 40s , due to the actions of Jewish terror groups then . 
doesn’t mean you would be or need be now, 
that’s my point , absolutely fuck all to do with Ireland, the IRA or Celtic , it’s about Jewish / Israeli terror groups campaign against British governance 

Ps 

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, fatolive said:

Similar to the Jewish terrorists who bombed British soldiers then yes? 
similar to  every terrorists known to man from every persuasion. 

your point is irrelevant apart from being directed at me 

why you asked me directly about hamas  links to the IRA ( which I don’t think there were) when I mentioned the Jewish atrocities tells its own story mate . 
I’m not one of your usual nemesis on here and I won’t turn a thread into bickering , ruining it for everyone else reading , TMGJ also disagreed with what I wrote, but articulated a reasoned argument / different point of view, backed with other points for debate if needed, you, you asked an irrelevant question and you know why you asked it. 
you can’t get away from the fact you’d have been pro Palestine if you were around in the 40s , due to the actions of Jewish terror groups then . 
doesn’t mean you would be or need be now, 
that’s my point , absolutely fuck all to do with Ireland, the IRA or Celtic , it’s about Jewish / Israeli terror groups campaign against British governance 

I won't say thank you for biting then. Fuck ya!