Duck Egg Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67173344 Settlers in the West Bank, most illegal and in breach of UN resolutions, being bigger arseholes than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're basing your response on the snippet of the image posted earlier in this thread and just leave it And if you aren't, it'd be a waste of time continuing further anyway Funny that Bolty will pop you on ignore then continue to obsess over your posts. He's a curious lad. Anyway, my response is based on a few things. I find it very hard to believe that Greta is purposefully using rare and obscure Nazi imagery used to justify mass genocide to spread a solidarity with Palestine message. I find it likely, her being autistic, that it was there for other reasons and they've just popped it in unbeknown. If it was on purpose, then why not stand by it, why delete it? Be proud of your pro Nazi message no? I am very happy to be proven wrong and if you've more proof or context behind this, then let me know and I'll hold my hands up 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67173344 Settlers in the West Bank, most illegal and in breach of UN resolutions, being bigger arseholes than usual. Sadly, this is the everyday norm for many Palestinian families in the West Bank and has been for years. The settler men you see later in the article bear no difference to Hamas in their actions. These policies come from the Israeli government and they continue with it despite it being against the UN resolutions. It's why many people struggle to believe the IDF. As we saw the other day, it seems more likely their side of the story was true, but it can be hard to believe someone who knowingly does the things they do. It's far more complex than 'this is all because of Hamas and we've got to defend ourselves'. Trying to point out that complexity and wider context now seems to make you antisemitic. Edited October 21, 2023 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeane Koontz Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Wait, Greta is being accused of being an anti-semite now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 21, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67173344 Settlers in the West Bank, most illegal and in breach of UN resolutions, being bigger arseholes than usual. Can somebody clarify is this is some of the 'history' we need to be aware of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: Wait, Greta is being accused of being an anti-semite now? She makes me laugh does Greta. An autistic child who, no matter what she's says or does, gets Gammons in a rage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: Wait, Greta is being accused of being an anti-semite now? And a Nazi sympathiser. Judging by the meaning behind that Squishy. Heil Greta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 My son and my dog has one of those teddies, the nazi bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Winchester White said: My son and my dog has one of those teddies, the nazi bastards. My lad's got 3 of them, won on the grabbing machines in blackpool. I wondered why he was goose stepping around the garden the other day. I'll be sending a strongly-worded letter to Coral Island for disseminating this fascist filth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 21, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It's very easily missed, to be fair, and without an (probably unhealthy) knowledgr of antisemitic imagery it can seem innocuous It's what's so clever about it This was the one and only time I heard about the octopus being a thing https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/03/image-published-bbc-richard-sharp-guardian-cartoon-martin-rowson Not sure if she knew, if she did she's a fucking idiot, or she's been set up, either way it was there deliberately The only offensive thing I know about Jews is big noses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 21, 2023 Members Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: Funny that Bolty will pop you on ignore then continue to obsess over your posts. He's a curious lad. Anyway, my response is based on a few things. I find it very hard to believe that Greta is purposefully using rare and obscure Nazi imagery used to justify mass genocide to spread a solidarity with Palestine message. I find it likely, her being autistic, that it was there for other reasons and they've just popped it in unbeknown. If it was on purpose, then why not stand by it, why delete it? Be proud of your pro Nazi message no? I am very happy to be proven wrong and if you've more proof or context behind this, then let me know and I'll hold my hands up 👍 I've already stated I doubt Greta knew it was there or knew the sinister meaning behind it But, given the context and the strategic placing, I think it's likely her friend does It's not that obscure it far right and - crucially - far left circles We'll have to agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 21, 2023 Members Share Posted October 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, Zico said: This was the one and only time I heard about the octopus being a thing https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/03/image-published-bbc-richard-sharp-guardian-cartoon-martin-rowson Not sure if she knew, if she did she's a fucking idiot, or she's been set up, either way it was there deliberately The only offensive thing I know about Jews is big noses Tinfoil hat stuff mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Of course the toy isn’t offensive. As LAR says, it’s all about context. I also doubt she knew its meaning but I’m sure that someone knew. If a banana is lobbed onto the pitch today, it’ll be considered a racist act. Are they still taking the knee? It’ll be for all forms of discrimination. Remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 21, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Tinfoil hat stuff mate Been looking into it some more 10 years ago a German paper did this when running a story on mark Zuckerberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Of course the toy isn’t offensive. As LAR says, it’s all about context. I also doubt she knew its meaning but I’m sure that someone knew. If a banana is lobbed onto the pitch today, it’ll be considered a racist act. Are they still taking the knee? It’ll be for all forms of discrimination. Remember that. Those particular octopus toys are used widely by Autistic people to express their mood. They're reversible so you can turn them inside out - one side has a happy face on it and the other side has a sad face. They became a massive fad for kids a few years ago. I highly doubt there was even the slightest sinister intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Hill Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: My son and my dog has one of those teddies, the nazi bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Iran-related forces coming together towards Israel’s borders. Clear that Iran felt it had enough to start this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 Greta Thunberg really does get under some peoples skin. People who love free speech too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Spider said: Greta Thunberg really does get under some peoples skin. People who love free speech too. I know, she's ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, Spider said: Greta Thunberg really does get under some peoples skin. People who love free speech too. She’s up there with Laurence Fox and Nigel Farage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Spider said: Greta Thunberg really does get under some peoples skin. People who love free speech too. Free speech is ace: just a shame some waste it by spouting shite and offer nothing in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Zico said: Been looking into it some more 10 years ago a German paper did this when running a story on mark Zuckerberg That's him out of Pirates of the Caribbean isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, kent_white said: That's him out of Pirates of the Caribbean isn't it? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I've already stated I doubt Greta knew it was there or knew the sinister meaning behind it But, given the context and the strategic placing, I think it's likely her friend does It's not that obscure it far right and - crucially - far left circles We'll have to agree to disagree fair enough mate. to be fair, the 'tinfoil hat stuff' was just tongue in cheek 👍 I can see why you think it was strategically placed. But I still find it very hard to believe that even her friend was involved. She's autistic and these things are common. It's an emotive subject this conflict, even for people living in peace thousands of miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Free speech is ace: just a shame some waste it by spouting shite and offer nothing in return. Lee Anderson on the other hand - never wastes his free speech right ? 🙂 She offers loads in return, you just don't agree with it. The campaigns she's been involved with of late (before this outburst) have been much more solutions focused and would make a huge difference if policy makers listened. In some cases they have. The older generation (particularly the gammon elders) do find it hard to grasp just how worried a lot of young people are about their future. Pretty scary stuff on the horizon and I wouldn't be surprised if it climate change is playing it's part in the middle east conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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