Slow news day, or end of the world?

”Aggressive” new variant has landed in Moscow. Makes people, even those that have been vaccinated, more poorly than previous types.

Time for Uncle Joe to push the button? Short term pain.

89 positive cases from 23,000 returning from amber list countries, overseas travel will be back on & quarantine free from end of July, get your flights booked. 

Edited June 21, 20215 yr by Mounts Kipper

33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

89 positive cases from 23,000 returning from amber list countries, overseas travel will be back on & quarantine free from end of July, get your flights booked. 

So, 390 per 100,000. What is the current rate in the UK?

45 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

89 positive cases from 23,000 returning from amber list countries, overseas travel will be back on & quarantine free from end of July, get your flights booked. 

I'd say from September it'll be back on, not sure it'll be as soon as in 5 weeks time.

Whitty and his pals will spin the figure of 89 from 23,000 as a huge issue

14 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

So, 390 per 100,000. What is the current rate in the UK?

That's what Bolton was when we were getting tarred with being the filthiest shit hole this side of karachi

There's fuck all chance of restriction free travel this summer. Because... Cases. 

 

10 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'd say from September it'll be back on, not sure it'll be as soon as in 5 weeks time.

Whitty and his pals will spin the figure of 89 from 23,000 as a huge issue

Reading today’s papers it’s all pointing to end of July. 

7 minutes ago, stevieb said:

That's what Bolton was when we were getting tarred with being the filthiest shit hole this side of karachi

There's fuck all chance of restriction free travel this summer. Because... Cases. 

 

The issue isn’t cases but deaths and serious cases requiring hospital treatment, of those 89 most will be jabbed and won’t even know they have Covid. 

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The issue isn’t cases but deaths and serious cases requiring hospital treatment, of those 89 most will be jabbed and won’t even know they have Covid. 

I know this. But that's not stopping the cunts in charge delaying shit. 

 

16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Reading today’s papers it’s all pointing to end of July. 

you would certainly hope so, but it was only 5 weeks ago people thought that 21st June was going to be when we started to come out of all this, and that got kicked back.

I suspect they'll wait until every adult (who wants to be vaccinated) is fully vaccinated, the good news is my 19 year old nephew had his first jab yesterday, so they're getting there. If they do wait until the entire adult population is fully vaccinated, then I think that takes us until around the end of August or beginning of September time

19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The issue isn’t cases but deaths and serious cases requiring hospital treatment, of those 89 most will be jabbed and won’t even know they have Covid. 

I presume that you've just made that bit up?!?!

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

you would certainly hope so, but it was only 5 weeks ago people thought that 21st June was going to be when we started to come out of all this, and that got kicked back.

I suspect they'll wait until every adult (who wants to be vaccinated) is fully vaccinated, the good news is my 19 year old nephew had his first jab yesterday, so they're getting there. If they do wait until the entire adult population is fully vaccinated, then I think that takes us until around the end of August or beginning of September time

Define fully vaccinated... 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57548796

 

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I presume that you've just made that bit up?!?!

I based it on the government figures that 95% of folk jabbed don’t have severe Covid symptoms. 

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

89 positive cases from 23,000 returning from amber list countries, overseas travel will be back on & quarantine free from end of July, get your flights booked. 

I reckon beginning of the school holidays, mid July time 

Lever chambers- walk in today for anyone over 16. Get there before 1.00pm

1 hour ago, stevieb said:

Define fully vaccinated... 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57548796

 

well....who knows

My definition is 3 weeks after you've had your second jab. If we start talking about boosters, then fuck nows

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I based it on the government figures that 95% of folk jabbed don’t have severe Covid symptoms. 

of those 89 most will be jabbed  - that's the bit we don't know, maybe none of them have been jabbed, maybe they've only had one jab and not both of them?!?!  -  What if the 89 who have it were either under 25 and haven't had the jab yet or were of a certain "type" who have chosen not to have the jab, hence them actually getting COVID.

If the government are telling us that 89 out of 23,000 returning from amber list places have got the virus, they should also tell us the vaccination state of those individuals, because if none of them were vaccinated, then that sends a clear message out that you need to get jabbed. Hopefully it'll come to a stage where we have vaccination passports/passes - anybody without both jabs, can fuck off if they think they can get in a pub, go to a match or travel abroad.

39 minutes ago, Sweep said:

of those 89 most will be jabbed  - that's the bit we don't know, maybe none of them have been jabbed, maybe they've only had one jab and not both of them?!?!  -  What if the 89 who have it were either under 25 and haven't had the jab yet or were of a certain "type" who have chosen not to have the jab, hence them actually getting COVID.

If the government are telling us that 89 out of 23,000 returning from amber list places have got the virus, they should also tell us the vaccination state of those individuals, because if none of them were vaccinated, then that sends a clear message out that you need to get jabbed. Hopefully it'll come to a stage where we have vaccination passports/passes - anybody without both jabs, can fuck off if they think they can get in a pub, go to a match or travel abroad.

And what about people who for medical reasons can't have the jab? Your moniker is very apt as you are prone to making sweeping statements. Why have vaccination passports? Why not just stamp people? I'm surprised no one has thought of this before... Oh hang on 🤔

Planning for excess death event for the next 4 years. And people think we'll be back to normal by September 🤣

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/013120-2021?origin=SearchResults&p=1

19 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

And what about people who for medical reasons can't have the jab? Your moniker is very apt as you are prone to making sweeping statements. Why have vaccination passports? Why not just stamp people? I'm surprised no one has thought of this before... Oh hang on 🤔

I have some sympathy for them people, but I'm not one of them, so it's a very minimal amount of sympathy if I'm honest. They'll just have to suffer and stay in the current state of limbo that we're all in, I don't see why the rest of us should be held back

15 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Planning for excess death event for the next 4 years. And people think we'll be back to normal by September 🤣

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/013120-2021?origin=SearchResults&p=1

It does say in the event of excess deaths, probably a nice 6 million pay cheque to some friend of the government that’ll hopefully never be used. 

15 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Planning for excess death event for the next 4 years. And people think we'll be back to normal by September 🤣

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/013120-2021?origin=SearchResults&p=1

There's no chance lockdown is being lifted anytime soon, as for excess deaths it is more likely to be from other illnesses & conditions that aren't being treated. 

1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

There's no chance lockdown is being lifted anytime soon, as for excess deaths it is more likely to be from other illnesses & conditions that aren't being treated. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57550596
 

someone better let Boris know. 

Just now, Sweep said:

I have some sympathy for them people, but I'm not one of them, so it's a very minimal amount of sympathy if I'm honest. They'll just have to suffer and stay in the current state of limbo that we're all in, I don't see why the rest of us should be held back

Then get your tattoo done with your number on & crack on. You should be proud of your empathy for your fellow man or should I say Ovis. 

     One day when this whole pantomime has run its course you will, as much as anyone, pay the price for your insular outlook on the world you inhabit. 

Unfortunately Ronnie this pantomime will never run its course 

1 minute ago, stevieb said:

Unfortunately Ronnie this pantomime will never run its course 

It might reach a final curtain, when governments realise they can’t continue funding it. 

1 hour ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

Then get your tattoo done with your number on & crack on. You should be proud of your empathy for your fellow man or should I say Ovis. 

     One day when this whole pantomime has run its course you will, as much as anyone, pay the price for your insular outlook on the world you inhabit. 

I was of course taking the piss a bit, but in reality, we have to come out of this, and at the minute a vaccine passport type thing looks the most likely and quickest way to get us moving again. Even Hancock today is talking about scrapping some travel restrictions for fully vaccinated people, which in itself is a form of "vaccine passporting" do you think he shouldn't be doing that?

As a country, we need to start moving forward, and we shouldn't be restricting or holding back those that can enable us to start that progression, even if it is only part of the population. Each day more and more people become less likely to contract and die of COVID (well, the current variants anyway) we can't hide away forever. Keep those who haven't been vaccinated "safe/shielded" and let everybody else crack on, surely you can't be arguing against that?

As for the highlighted part, I'll be fucked if I know what you're talking about, how do you think I, as much as anyone, will pay the price? - I'd be interested to know your theory there, unless of course you're just chucking fancy phrases about to try and sound clever.