Moderators Casino Posted June 21, 2021 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: It does to people who are terrified of needles but there are many with other medical issues.... The vaccination levels aren't holding anyone back, the Government are doing that. Wife hasnt come across anybody who hasnt been able to have the needle But, she said she could understand a preggersaur opting out Who are you referring to, pal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted June 21, 2021 Members Share Posted June 21, 2021 I'm point blank refusing to have mine til I sneeze this baby out. Don't care how many times they say its to do so (which is bollocks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, bolton_blondie said: I'm point blank refusing to have mine til I sneeze this baby out. Don't care how many times they say its to do so (which is bollocks) Sneeze it out? Take its not your first one! 🤣 1st kid 4 day labour. 2nd one 4 hours I've had the snip so no chance of a 4 minutes one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Casino said: Wife hasnt come across anybody who hasnt been able to have the needle But, she said she could understand a preggersaur opting out Who are you referring to, pal? People with Rheumatoid arthritis for one. The immune system doesn't work properly therefore these vaccinations could potentially be deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted June 21, 2021 Members Share Posted June 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, stevieb said: Sneeze it out? Take its not your first one! 🤣 1st kid 4 day labour. 2nd one 4 hours I've had the snip so no chance of a 4 minutes one! Wish it was as easy a sneeze. Forceps was no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: People with Rheumatoid arthritis for one. The immune system doesn't work properly therefore these vaccinations could potentially be deadly. I'm riddled with RA, had my 1st jab in January, 2nd in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 21, 2021 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: People with Rheumatoid arthritis for one. The immune system doesn't work properly therefore these vaccinations could potentially be deadly. Covid symptoms for those with rheumatism are thought to outweigh the risks of the vaccine My health advisor has just pointed me to Lancet papers stating no proven adverse effects I suppose its personal choice Poss death from covid or die from the vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, Casino said: Covid symptoms for those with rheumatism are thought to outweigh the risks of the vaccine My health advisor has just pointed me to Lancet papers stating no proven adverse effects I suppose its personal choice Poss death from covid or die from the vaccine You've hit the nail on the head there.... Choice! Everyone should & does have the right to decide what medical treatment they wish to embrace or not. My Mrs feels that given the nature of these vaccinations & the haste in which they were brought out she would rather take her chances without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 And whilst we are on the subject... No proven adverse effects.... How would this have been ascertained given these drugs were pushed through in record time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: And whilst we are on the subject... No proven adverse effects.... How would this have been ascertained given these drugs were pushed through in record time? There’s been 100s of millions vaccinated, good chance that’s enough to make the judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: There’s been 100s of millions vaccinated, good chance that’s enough to make the judgement. You do know adverse effects don't necessarily happen instantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: There’s been 100s of millions vaccinated, good chance that’s enough to make the judgement. And lots of attributed adverse reactions... And deaths. They're still only approved for emergency use until 2023. If you want one. Have one. If you don't, don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, stevieb said: And lots of attributed adverse reactions... And deaths. They're still only approved for emergency use until 2023. If you want one. Have one. If you don't, don't. All vaccinations have side effects, given the number rolled out there does not seem a big issue with adverse reactions, I agree though if you don’t want it don’t have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 21, 2021 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: You've hit the nail on the head there.... Choice! Everyone should & does have the right to decide what medical treatment they wish to embrace or not. My Mrs feels that given the nature of these vaccinations & the haste in which they were brought out she would rather take her chances without. Thats fine, your mrs should make her choice I reckon covids more likely to get her than the vaccine, but hey ho Its fortunately not an issue for me I still think its not unreasonable when she makes her choice that she remembers she will likely face extended restrictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: All vaccinations have side effects, given the number rolled out there does not seem a big issue with adverse reactions, I agree though if you don’t want it don’t have it. And you are perfectly confident that if there was an issue that the data would be put out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 21, 2021 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: And you are perfectly confident that if there was an issue that the data would be put out there? I am Fuck me, a few blood clots, at a percentage lower than you would expect in non vaccinated folk made big news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Thats fine, your mrs should make her choice I reckon covids more likely to get her than the vaccine, but hey ho Its fortunately not an issue for me I still think its not unreasonable when she makes her choice that she remembers she will likely face extended restrictions My Mrs is on hydroxychloroquine which is quite possibly as much of a defence as the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: And you are perfectly confident that if there was an issue that the data would be put out there? Yes. I know folk have died and many have had severe reactions but I’m confident the info is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Casino said: I am Fuck me, a few blood clots, at a percentage lower than you would expect in non vaccinated folk made big news How do you actually know that it is, as you say, a few? Given that this Government has a habit of pulling figures out of thin air I would say that's a, leap of faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Yes. I know folk have died and many have had severe reactions but I’m confident the info is available. Fair play to you, I will always quite happily question the narrative until I find reasonable evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Can anyone explain why only 2 x England players have to isolate after being in contact with Billy Gilmour? Why not both sets of players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Can anyone explain why only 2 x England players have to isolate after being in contact with Billy Gilmour? Why not both sets of players? England camp has interpreted the guidance differently from the Scots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, royal white said: Can anyone explain why only 2 x England players have to isolate after being in contact with Billy Gilmour? Why not both sets of players? Nobody will ever have a reasonable explanation for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, royal white said: Can anyone explain why only 2 x England players have to isolate after being in contact with Billy Gilmour? Why not both sets of players? Because they pay more tax than peasants like you so different rules apply. So if your daughter who is in nursery has a mate who has slight cough you have to isolate her for 2 weeks whilst still paying for nursery and probably staying off work. But G7 can back slap like a set of cunts And tarquin can go to Wimbledon and pretend he's middle class while he gets fucked by inflation in the next few years We're all in this together... I've voted Conservative all my life but I'd rather put colonel Ghadaffi in charge right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 21, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, stevieb said: Because they pay more tax than peasants like you so different rules apply. So if your daughter who is in nursery has a mate who has slight cough you have to isolate her for 2 weeks whilst still paying for nursery and probably staying off work. But G7 can back slap like a set of cunts And tarquin can go to Wimbledon and pretend he's middle class while he gets fucked by inflation in the next few years We're all in this together... I've voted Conservative all my life but I'd rather put colonel Ghadaffi in charge right now. Careful mate, you'll be called a tinfoil hatter by the usual suspects 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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