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Football Ventures

2 million cash pumped into the business in return for shares. Reported at companies house.

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11 hours ago, Rudy said:

Yep. 
They’ll argue Covid has affected them but not to that amount 

If they're relying on player sales to that extent, then it must be a concern. No guarantees on the amount that is going to generate for a club.

 

2 hours ago, MickyD said:

Thing is, £39 million barely creates a raised eyebrow. You could buy a half decent footballer for that if you were City, United, Liverpool, Chelsea, etc. and now Newcastle.

I’m not saying it’s fine for Bristol City to ignore FFP but if their owner can afford it, what’s the difference?

That's right Micky. I'd be more worried that it's gone from 10M to 39M in a couple of years.

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16 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

It needs to happen sadly. The game needs a reset but unfortunately the clubs that need to feel the pain being the ones at the top won’t they will survive and other lower clubs with solid loyal support will face oblivion which is sad  

hence why I think we are on the right trajectory with FV and looking to become sustainable. 
 

 

Agree. It’s the model we need to follow. Who in their right mind would take that on when Landsdowne has had enough?

Just now, tomski said:

Agree. It’s the model we need to follow. Who in their right mind would take that on when Landsdowne has had enough?

You'd have to hope he did an Eddie and write off the debt, but that would also need the club to be set up to be sustainable afterwards. Something that we weren't. 

image.png.3b13b7b4dad9b34f3f9747c739995910.pngFound this it says Bristol city have lost over 170 million in the last few years . It says works out at £412,000 a week every week over the last 10 years 

2 minutes ago, tomski said:

Agree. It’s the model we need to follow. Who in their right mind would take that on when Landsdowne has had enough?

Same with derby and many many others. Going to be plenty going to the wall sadly. We had a very very lucky escape. 
 

top clubs will get fatter and richer playing in their own wee bubble with fans more interested in videoing the game on their phones. Whilst proper clubs with hardcore support like brizzle go to the wall. Sad times but the writing is on the wall 

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You'd have to hope he did an Eddie and write off the debt, but that would also need the club to be set up to be sustainable afterwards. Something that we weren't. 

It will still have high losses even if debt was written off which would be a big if.

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Same with derby and many many others. Going to be plenty going to the wall sadly. We had a very very lucky escape. 
 

top clubs will get fatter and richer playing in their own wee bubble with fans more interested in videoing the game on their phones. Whilst proper clubs with hardcore support like brizzle go to the wall. Sad times but the writing is on the wall 

It seems odd to like this post but it’s spot on. To think that wasn’t enough for the big 6 that they wanted a super league as well really winds me up.

Just now, tomski said:

It seems odd to like this post but it’s spot on. To think that wasn’t enough for the big 6 that they wanted a super league as well really winds me up.

Yep. It’s shocking that it’s been allowed to happen. Should just let the so called big clubs fuck off. Go and play Madrid away on a Saturday or whatever they want and leave the rest of us to it. 

Bristol are another of those clubs with huge potential, being a big city with little real competition for fans, that never seems to have been able to capitalise on it. They should easily be sustainable without pumping in silly money but for some reason just haven’t.

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yep. It’s shocking that it’s been allowed to happen. Should just let the so called big clubs fuck off. Go and play Madrid away on a Saturday or whatever they want and leave the rest of us to it. 

Spot on.

Looking back now, I’m gutted the ‘big 6’ didn’t fuck off out of it when they had the chance. The football league would be a better place without them and their hangers on. 

Just now, Matt Lofthouse said:

Looking back now, I’m gutted the ‘big 6’ didn’t fuck off out of it when they had the chance. The football league would be a better place without them and their hangers on. 

Would of been good for everyone. Their fans would of dropped off in droves to come back to local clubs due to boredom. Then the gimpys that crave elite level fixtures every 2 minutes can crack on.

Correct mate 

36 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

image.png.3b13b7b4dad9b34f3f9747c739995910.pngFound this it says Bristol city have lost over 170 million in the last few years . It says works out at £412,000 a week every week over the last 10 years 

Not sure the maths is right, there.
£412k x 52 x 10 = £214m

But their losses have increased by £61m in just 4 years = £293k per week, which is shocking.

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42 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Bristol are another of those clubs with huge potential, being a big city with little real competition for fans, that never seems to have been able to capitalise on it. They should easily be sustainable without pumping in silly money but for some reason just haven’t.

It’s not really a proper football city in my opinion. Their all time average attendance 13k compared to ours at 17k. 

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Theyve gone bust at least once before

Fuck em

30 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s not really a proper football city in my opinion. Their all time average attendance 13k compared to ours at 17k. 

I agree with you, you can't put feeings into people.The people of a city either love football or they don't.Bristol don't have a ground the size of Sunderland's because the city doesn't need it

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

Bristol are another of those clubs with huge potential, being a big city with little real competition for fans, that never seems to have been able to capitalise on it. They should easily be sustainable without pumping in silly money but for some reason just haven’t.

 

37 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s not really a proper football city in my opinion. Their all time average attendance 13k compared to ours at 17k. 

To be fair you've got to consider that it is a two club football city, while it's easy to underestimate just how big an effect rugby union has in that particular part of the world.

11 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

I agree with you, you can't put feeings into people.The people of a city either love football or they don't.Bristol don't have a ground the size of Sunderland's because the city doesn't need it

Sunderland needs a bomb dropping on it. HTH

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Sunderland needs a bomb dropping on it. HTH

I'd drop two, in case one doesn't work.

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22 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

 

To be fair you've got to consider that it is a two club football city, while it's easy to underestimate just how big an effect rugby union has in that particular part of the world.

For both teams average adds up to 23k so for a city that size it’s poor. 

58 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

For both teams average adds up to 23k so for a city that size it’s poor. 

That's why I thought it was worth mentioning the competition from RU given Bristol Bears have averaged 19,400 so far this season

2 hours ago, Traf said:

Not sure the maths is right, there.
£412k x 52 x 10 = £214m

But their losses have increased by £61m in just 4 years = £293k per week, which is shocking.

Didn’t add up to me but got it of this -

As a result of above the EBIT (day to day) losses for Bristol City increased from £35m to £44m. Bristol City have lost £412,000 a week every week for the last ten years from day to day trading.image.png.4f178bdb697706279b9245820954fa82.png

8 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

That's why I thought it was worth mentioning the competition from RU given Bristol Bears have averaged 19,400 so far this season

The owner of city also owns the rugby club . Sounds like he runs that one a bit better they keep within the salary cap 

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