not interested in arguing about the trust just putting this here for those interested and not members. 

https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/Trust_Documents/Club_Trust_Structured_Dialogue_Meeting_No2_Minutes_040322.pdf

Edited March 31, 20224 yr by Mounts Kipper

15 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Hopefully folk buying £35 kids season tickets and assigning them on away days are done 

i am not having it this is the problem with aways....

5 minutes ago, Big E said:

i am not having it this is the problem with aways....

Happens loads

lads who have season tickets get mates who ain’t assigned to junior CR

Looks like the club is selling season tickets again in knob head corner

3 hours ago, Casino said:

i suspect folk just wander into that area from their designated seat

Last home game they had stewards at the bottom of the stairs up to the stands presumably checking the tickets of people going up there to make sure they’re in the right block.

Doesn’t stop them walking along the top of the stand but I’m not sure some of them are bright enough for that.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

What's actually wrong with it?

Unnecessary.

2 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Unnecessary.

To us it may seem that way. But it's come from above. Hart hasn't just decided "I know what I'll do, I'll piss loads of fans off for no reason!".

3 hours ago, Smiley said:

Pretty sure City’s are all automated turnstiles with a traffic light system. So the steward on the other side will see a coloured light and expect a certain aged person to come through. Guessing that stops adults with kids tickets.

Especially if the club pays the steward a ‘give-a-fuck’ bonus. Sorry but most stewards won’t want to put themselves in the way of someone who wants to buy a £50 ST instead of a £250 one.

26 minutes ago, Cheese said:

To us it may seem that way. But it's come from above. Hart hasn't just decided "I know what I'll do, I'll piss loads of fans off for no reason!".

I'm almost positive he didn't think that. But it did have that effect.

On 03/02/2023 at 12:25, matty2094 said:

Last home game they had stewards at the bottom of the stairs up to the stands presumably checking the tickets of people going up there to make sure they’re in the right block.

Doesn’t stop them walking along the top of the stand but I’m not sure some of them are bright enough for that.

Same again today. 

1 hour ago, matty2094 said:

Same again today. 

Loads being turned away in the north lower.  People using kids tickets I suspect.

Edited February 4, 20233 yr by donkeyshorn

7 minutes ago, donkeyshorn said:

Loads being turned away in the north lower.  People using kids tickets I suspect.

Well, if adults are using kids tickets then they deserve turning away ... & ticket removing too.

It's effectively shop-lifting. Doubtless some will see it as unnecessarily harsh & officious ... & blame Neil Hart.

Future of the match day bus doesn’t look good according to hart

Hopefully they think very carefully on this be a bad move if they bin them off 

On 02/02/2023 at 22:15, victor meldrew said:

loyalty scheme for away tickets coming in next season,

away tickets going on sale at 10am , nh open to a better way , (what time is best)

1. He said this couldn't have been implemented mid-season ie for Accy, but surely they know which season ticket holders have attended the PJT games so far? Isn't that part of the remit of insisting you're a member? 

Our average attendance at home in the PJT is 3300, so the 2600 tickets should have initially gone to away ST holders, then ST holders with previous PJT attendance. It can't be hard to do.

2. I'm not arsed what time they go on sale, but (i) more than half a day's notice would be good and (ii) don't implement a queue system mid-season and not tell people about it. People logging on at the specified 10am time for Accy tickets stood little/no chance of getting tickets.

1 hour ago, radcliffe white said:

Future of the match day bus doesn’t look good according to hart

Hopefully they think very carefully on this be a bad move if they bin them off 

Not great but I guess they have to cut costs . Not like it could be subsidised when they only charge a bargain price of £8.30 for you to park your car 

2 minutes ago, Big E said:

Not great but I guess they have to cut costs . Not like it could be subsidised when they only charge a bargain price of £8.30 for you to park your car 

Neil says £8.20 to park is more than fair.

Those who disagree should stop using them.

52 minutes ago, Big E said:

Not great but I guess they have to cut costs . Not like it could be subsidised when they only charge a bargain price of £8.30 for you to park your car 

Ok it was under different owners but it was outlined that transport would be provided with an out of town stadium, hopefully they will do something from town centre like many other clubs do 

2 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Future of the match day bus doesn’t look good according to hart

Hopefully they think very carefully on this be a bad move if they bin them off 

I've always found the buses running from all over the place being a great marker of the size of our club and ultimately something to be proud of. They always look as busy as ever to me so if that isn't translating to cash being taken on the bus then they need to be having a chat with Tyrer's.

2 hours ago, Traf said:

1. He said this couldn't have been implemented mid-season ie for Accy, but surely they know which season ticket holders have attended the PJT games so far? Isn't that part of the remit of insisting you're a member? 

Our average attendance at home in the PJT is 3300, so the 2600 tickets should have initially gone to away ST holders, then ST holders with previous PJT attendance. It can't be hard to do.

2. I'm not arsed what time they go on sale, but (i) more than half a day's notice would be good and (ii) don't implement a queue system mid-season and not tell people about it. People logging on at the specified 10am time for Accy tickets stood little/no chance of getting tickets.

Posted this previously but the precedent is already there from Burton away in 2017/18 when priority was given to people who had attended two or more away games that season. Again, the whole of this season (and most of last season) has - in theory - seen every ticket assigned so should be a doddle really.

1 hour ago, Traf said:

Neil says £8.20 to park is more than fair.

Those who disagree should stop using them.

At that price I'll carry on arguing with shoppers who turn up to Home Bargains at half 2 on a Saturday and wonder why it's so busy.

I've never used one of the buses as I come from 65m away but it'd be a very retrograde step to stop them. 

Not a very Auntie Sharon thing to do. She'd be the person to appeal this to.

£8.20 is steep. Is Comrade Burnham involved ? ... & if not, why not ?

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Posted this previously but the precedent is already there from Burton away in 2017/18 when priority was given to people who had attended two or more away games that season. Again, the whole of this season (and most of last season) has - in theory - seen every ticket assigned so should be a doddle really.

 

they need to make it clear that we need to assign accurately if they have a cunning plan

also, what about pay on day

I never realised how much the parking charges piss me off until recently. £8.30 to be sat there ages after kick off is ridiculous. Forgot I lived an hour away on Saturday and was parked pretty much in Preston on that car park. Rammed and £8.30 surely we can keep the buses going. Especially with the green initiative 

wouldn't want to pay for parking to queue to get off

tesco was bad enough

middlebrook even worse

now street parking up near the beehive

piece of piss getting a spot and getting away, and only 10 min walk 

can't justify £8 for parking for me, or for the bus either

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

wouldn't want to pay for parking to queue to get off

tesco was bad enough

middlebrook even worse

now street parking up near the beehive

piece of piss getting a spot and getting away, and only 10 min walk 

can't justify £8 for parking for me, or for the bus either

I was charged £2-20 Saturday when I paid via the app. 

1 hour ago, Casino said:

they need to make it clear that we need to assign accurately if they have a cunning plan

also, what about pay on day

They didn’t make that clear for Burton and it didn’t seem to cause too many ructions. Must admit I did use that as my warning shot and have spent the last however seasons assigning them to the right people just in case as least it’s easy enough to search for their names when assigning each one  

Pay on the day is tough luck. Must buy in advance to get loyalty points. Barnsley state that on their website. 

42 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

They didn’t make that clear for Burton and it didn’t seem to cause too many ructions. Must admit I did use that as my warning shot and have spent the last however seasons assigning them to the right people just in case as least it’s easy enough to search for their names when assigning each one  

Pay on the day is tough luck. Must buy in advance to get loyalty points. Barnsley state that on their website. 

if im buying 12, ive not got time to be pissing about as i have to do 2 transactions!!!!

Just now, Casino said:

if im buying 12, ive not got time to be pissing about as i have to do 2 transactions!!!!

I get that as I was in the same position when trying to buy 17 Accrington tickets but tbf I found it easier to type in to search for the right season ticket for that particular ticket rather than searching manually through my network that includes quite a few non-season ticket holders thanks to the membership scheme. The 10 limit could do with getting in the sea though.