Brand Evatt

[gonzo]

55 minutes ago, JOGLER said:

So, if we don't get promoted, who will you judge to be better to take over next season?

Bruce Rioch

[tomski]

57 minutes ago, JOGLER said:

So, if we don't get promoted, who will you judge to be better to take over next season?

Someone better.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, JOGLER said:

So, if we don't get promoted, who will you judge to be better to take over next season?

This is the usual comment tripped out in these discussions and is somewhat trite.

Personally I want him to stay for as long as possible, but I do believe he has made mistakes and will still do as he gains more experience.

That said, at some point he will leave or retire and we will need to replace him.

Everyone will have an opinion as to who that should be, but until it happens it's a pointless discussion as no one knows who would be available or willing to come.

There are always surprises in management too, so whoever is appointed (or who isnt) there is no guarantee either way.

[JOGLER]

17 minutes ago, tomski said:

Someone better.

But there is no one better 🙅

[tomski]

8 minutes ago, JOGLER said:

But there is no one better 🙅

Agree to disagree

[Casino]

If youre going to say that, you need to tell us who it is

[onefinfrandsen]

Neil said on gmr yesterday that if we don’t go up this season we definitely will next, so it looks likely IE is here for a while yet. But like it’s been mentioned if a big club comes calling then who knows. Let’s just enjoy the ride

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, onefinfrandsen said:

Neil said on gmr yesterday that if we don’t go up this season we definitely will next, so it looks likely IE is here for a while yet. But like it’s been mentioned if a big club comes calling then who knows. Let’s just enjoy the ride

Not quite. He said:

"We will get into the Championship. Whether it's this year or over the next couple of years, we will get back there. There's no doubt about that with the work that's going on and off the pitch.

[gonzo]

46 minutes ago, Casino said:

If youre going to say that, you need to tell us who it is

I think Ken Anderson has burnt Tomski that much hes struggling to ever love again.

Like a tormented, battered wife. He just cant trust another man again.

[tomski]

56 minutes ago, Casino said:

If youre going to say that, you need to tell us who it is

Well not really. Judge at end of the season has become name his replacement. Which is quite a leap. Seems like bi polar ways at its finest.

 

[Casino]

4 minutes ago, tomski said:

Well not really. Judge at end of the season has become name his replacement. Which is quite a leap. Seems like bi polar ways at its finest.

 

Jogler said there was nobody better

You said there was, so i think its fair enough to ask who it is?

[tomski]

15 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I think Ken Anderson has burnt Tomski that much hes struggling to ever love again.

Like a tormented, battered wife. He just cant trust another man again.

Far too deep. I just don’t love him. I have said a few times I like him but question him. I know a couple of people who can’t stand him and would have him out tomorrow. I find it odd that my thought process seems odd to most but hey Ho.
 

 

[tomski]

7 minutes ago, Casino said:

Jogler said there was nobody better

You said there was, so i think its fair enough to ask who it is?

Ok. I’d say the following could get us out of L1

schumacher 

warne

Ainsworth 

Duff

I haven’t called for Evatt to be replaced but to suggest no one could do it and better is a tad rose tinted.

[gonzo]

Schumacher drives cars and Shane Warne is dead mate.

Duff is a bit mongy

[tomski]

I thought Duff was a bit tidy to be fair.

 

 

[Casino]

8 minutes ago, tomski said:

Ok. I’d say the following could get us out of L1

schumacher 

warne

Ainsworth 

Duff

 

Well, you said there was somebody better, and you gave us 4 names

Fair enough, you might be right

Id not swap him for one of those, fwiw

[tomski]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Well, you said there was somebody better, and you gave us 4 names

Fair enough, you might be right

Id not swap him for one of those, fwiw

If we go up no one wants anyone replacing.

[gonzo]

Just now, tomski said:

If we go up no one wants anyone replacing.

If we dont go up no one wants replacing.

 

[Casino]

Just now, tomski said:

If we go up no one wants anyone replacing.

If we dont go up, i still wouldnt want him replacing

And i dont think jogler would

You said them 4 would do a better job/are better

No probs

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

24 minutes ago, tomski said:

I thought Duff was a bit tidy to be fair.

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Interesting list of names. Richardson took Wigan up last year too.

I don't necessarily see any of them being better than Evatt ultimately, but who knows they might achieve the next rung quicker, via pragmatism. 

Once up however, I'd much prefer Evatt.

He made an interesting comment last year when he said it takes more than physicality to survive in championship. He got some stick as possibly suggesting it was a pop at Wigan, but he has been shown to be correct.

That's why I'm liking what he's doing now, as I see it as a continued progression and consequently being more ready for the next league when we get there. It might take a touch longer to get there, but so what- prefer that to a yo-yo job.

Edited February 26, 2023 by Tonge moor green jacket

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

One of the things about Evatt is that he's a process manager, which inevitably means it takes time for his methods to bear fruit (even if his sucess here has been stratospheric)

That probably explains in part os slow starts and is why, if he is as smart as he appears, he will think long and hard before leaving here

The majority of clubs wouldn't have given him the time he got here and I think he probably recognises that

[Tonge moor green jacket]

32 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

One of the things about Evatt is that he's a process manager, which inevitably means it takes time for his methods to bear fruit (even if his sucess here has been stratospheric)

That probably explains in part os slow starts and is why, if he is as smart as he appears, he will think long and hard before leaving here

The majority of clubs wouldn't have given him the time he got here and I think he probably recognises that

Indeed.

Club seems ideal for him, and vice versa.

[Johnnyrotten]

3 hours ago, tomski said:

Ok. I’d say the following could get us out of L1

schumacher 

warne

Ainsworth 

Duff

I haven’t called for Evatt to be replaced but to suggest no one could do it and better is a tad rose tinted.

The 2 standouts in league 2 are Richie Wellens (Orient) and Steve Evans (Stevenage) - some characters just don't suit our club and even if they appear to know what they're doing, I'll stick with IE thanks!  Same goes for a Mr Barton in Bristol.

Others in L1 that are doing great jobs are Darrel Clarke at Vale and Steve Cotterill at Shrewsbury (bit too old to be considered for us in future though).

[JOGLER]

Its good to have a sensible discussion without it deteriorating into anger and name calling. After all none of us can prove who is, or might be, the best manager for us.

So, here's what I base my OPINION on (that there is nobody better than I.E. for our manager):

1) He has improved us every season he has been in charge

2) The way he likes us to play is entertaining and exciting (that doesn't mean it is always so.... Just like it isn't for the most entertaining team on the planet, whoever that is)

3) It's not essential that we get promoted this season, or even next, but it would be a problem if we were still in div. 1 in say 3 years time. I think we have an excellent chance of getting promoted this season but, if we don't, it's virtually guaranteed next season.

4) If I.E. was replaced at the end of this season the new manager would want his own staff and players, that change process and the inevitable turmoil would virtually guarantee we wouldn't get promoted next season.

5) I have a strong feeling that I.E. would be happy to remain at B.W.F.C. until he retires - assuming Sharon stays too and continues to support him and his ambitions .... Within the limitations of Sustainability.

6) I believe that I.E. has the traits to take us all the way (as far as a club of our size can go..... We've previously reached Europe), he reminds me greatly of Big Sam.... Who didn't do a bad job! Yes, S.A. had lots of (Eddie's) money but I think it's possible to do it more sustainably, especially with the ever increasing pressure on clubs to spend within their means.

Notice that I haven't attempted to discredit any of the suggested alternative managers - there's no point, as already stated none of us can prove anything. BUT, I'd be amazed if there's another manager, anywhere, who could tick all the above boxes .... Plus probably a few more that I've overlooked.