6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

2 hours ago, green genie said:

Google Vanessa George

There is no doubt the odd female is a wrong un. Look at Lucy Letby for example.

Overwhelmingly it is males sexually abusing kids. Trying to throw up a female example is a bit like those fucking halfwits who trawl the internet to find a white grooming gang in a vain attempt to defend P'akistani grooming gangs. Not that you were trying to defend of course.

2 hours ago, Zico said:

don't get me wrong, my youngest has had males look after her at nursery, which didn't feel right at first but they've been great

I don't think it's fair to say bummers shouldn't get to adopt though, as though they are more likely to abuse kids

this happened literally round the corner from me back home

Nursery worker jailed for the manslaughter of 9-month-old baby Genevieve | Greater Manchester Police https://share.google/VTOQUq7cC3SjBGVpd

I think she was straight

at least before she went to prison

A case in point. Overwhelmingly males. Ban 'em.

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Anything from primary school is OK for me.

No way a bloke should be working a pre-school nursery.

Just some areas in life a bloke shouldn't be.

Eminently sensible.

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Not like WW to have a knee jerk reaction to things with literally zero evidence! 😁

What shite. A 'knee jerk reaction' implies that this is new and one off incident.

There is a litany of them

https://www.vic.gov.au/childcare-centres-investigation

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2025/07/childcare-sexual-abuse-men-children-risk

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jul/28/thousands-of-reports-of-abuse-have-been-made-in-australian-childcare-centres-most-alleged-perpetrators-were-allowed-to-keep-working

https://www.dffh.vic.gov.au/childcare-centres-investigation

I could be posting more for a good while. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Before anyone pipes up 'yes but this is in Australia', if it's happening down under it's happening in the UK.

'Knee jerk' my arse.

53 minutes ago, Ani said:

But all research shows a kid bought up by couples irrespective of it being one of each or two the same turn out the same.

The day I swallow the term 'all research' is the day I'll give up. No doubt 'all research' said there wasn't a P'akistani grooming gang problem.

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

I'll let my friends know who have brought up well adjusted lovely kids.

Still can't believe views like this perpetuate.

Yeah let them know.

I just think a mothers love and females maternal instinct is completely irreplaceable.

No doubt your friends have done a great job.

But for me, a baby/infant/toddler should be bought up by a mother.

Obviously exceptionalsituations can happen in life where this might not be able to happen. My lads mate at school and his bro have been bought up by their dad superbly after their mum passed away for instance.

But first and foremost a baby should be with a mother and two blokes adopting one and bringing it up is completely unnatural and goes against instincts that created mankind. Good on em like. But a baby should be with a mother.

42 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The day I swallow the term 'all research' is the day I'll give up. No doubt 'all research' said there wasn't a P'akistani grooming gang problem.

Today’s biggest whataboutery is won by the Australian.

Those Woke institutions like Oxford and Cornell University should never be trusted ! Especially when the Oxford one only examined every child born in Holland over a 10 year period.

Strange that for your argument on adults in day care you post a list of links, but for this just hot air and nothing else.

https://www.sociology.ox.ac.uk/article/new-study-indicates-children-raised-same-sex-parents-perform-better-school

Anyway here is the first phase of the grooming gang enquiry.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6810978a41bbc42489eafa81/t/6a314bb1151e511944bd4421/1781615537601/The+Rape+Gang+Inquiry+Report.pdf

Bring out the riot gear.

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Yeah let them know.

I just think a mothers love and females maternal instinct is completely irreplaceable.

No doubt your friends have done a great job.

But for me, a baby/infant/toddler should be bought up by a mother.

Obviously exceptionalsituations can happen in life where this might not be able to happen. My lads mate at school and his bro have been bought up by their dad superbly after their mum passed away for instance.

But first and foremost a baby should be with a mother and two blokes adopting one and bringing it up is completely unnatural and goes against instincts that created mankind. Good on em like. But a baby should be with a mother.

There’s multiple reasons the majority of kids end up with their mothers after a parents separation, this is one of them

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by royal white

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Yeah let them know.

I just think a mothers love and females maternal instinct is completely irreplaceable.

No doubt your friends have done a great job.

But for me, a baby/infant/toddler should be bought up by a mother.

Obviously exceptionalsituations can happen in life where this might not be able to happen. My lads mate at school and his bro have been bought up by their dad superbly after their mum passed away for instance.

But first and foremost a baby should be with a mother and two blokes adopting one and bringing it up is completely unnatural and goes against instincts that created mankind. Good on em like. But a baby should be with a mother.

But do you accept your argument is purely instincts which is fine, so you do not support it. But research shows the results do not match your instincts ?

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Anyway here is the first phase of the grooming gang enquiry.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6810978a41bbc42489eafa81/t/6a314bb1151e511944bd4421/1781615537601/The+Rape+Gang+Inquiry+Report.pdf

Bring out the riot gear.

Is this the Rupert Lowe one ?

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

But do you accept your argument is purely instincts which is fine, so you do not support it. But research shows the results do not match your instincts ?

Again I think you think I'm saying kids going to bloke couples put them more in danger or something which I'm not.

I'm saying as human beings a baby should be raised by a mother. The whole of our civilisation is based on this fact.

You cannot replicate maternal instinct that a female mother holds.

We literally exist as people because of this.

Yes babies and infants can go on and have perfectly happy lives. I'm not saying otherwise.

But a baby, as our whole civilisation suggests, is better being bought in to the world and raised by a mother. Not two blokes.

As for your research, unless your research covers the history of mankind and maternal powers and instincts vs a handful of gay couples bringing up kids fine then it's pretty much null and void.

15 minutes ago, Ani said:

Is this the Rupert Lowe one ?

Yes

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Again I think you think I'm saying kids going to bloke couples put them more in danger or something which I'm not.

I'm saying as human beings a baby should be raised by a mother. The whole of our civilisation is based on this fact.

You cannot replicate maternal instinct that a female mother holds.

We literally exist as people because of this.

Yes babies and infants can go on and have perfectly happy lives. I'm not saying otherwise.

But a baby, as our whole civilisation suggests, is better being bought in to the world and raised by a mother. Not two blokes.

As for your research, unless your research covers the history of mankind and maternal powers and instincts vs a handful of gay couples bringing up kids fine then it's pretty much null and void.

I am not talking about harm. I am talking about the long term well being of the kid. There have been extensive research programmes into this and they constantly show that the kids from same sex parents turn out just like kid bought up in the more traditional family.

Every kid born in Holland over a ten year period is hardly the type of research you are describing. You could argue the parenting will be ‘different’ in your opinion, but every jot of research shows the outcome for the kids is the same.

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Yes

Rupert Lowe MP’s energy and commitment ensured that The Rape Gang Inquiry took place. He has been unwavering in his devotion to making sure that this rotting stain on our country’s history has remained firmly in the public eye

I think the second para when I looked told me that 🙄

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

Given our defence spending that yacht might actually have the closest we have to a warship in the region.

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

What shite. A 'knee jerk reaction' implies that this is new and one off incident.

There is a litany of them

https://www.vic.gov.au/childcare-centres-investigation

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2025/07/childcare-sexual-abuse-men-children-risk

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jul/28/thousands-of-reports-of-abuse-have-been-made-in-australian-childcare-centres-most-alleged-perpetrators-were-allowed-to-keep-working

https://www.dffh.vic.gov.au/childcare-centres-investigation

I could be posting more for a good while. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Before anyone pipes up 'yes but this is in Australia', if it's happening down under it's happening in the UK.

'Knee jerk' my arse.

It's absolutely a knee jerk. You've read a few stories and jumped to the illogical conclusion that the best way to stop things happening again is to ban all men from working with young children and prevent homosexual couples from adopting.

It woundn't be knee jerk if you'd looked at credible research that suggested that there was a particular problem with male care workers and/or homosexual men who adopt children.

But my understanding from posts on this forum is that there hasn't been a link found between the two. If you've found some credible research that suggests otherwise then I'm happy to read it and I might even change my mind.

But until then - I'll call it out for what it is. A knee jerk.

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

I'm not saying it's about them doing anything wrong.

I'm saying women naturally offer a layer of care with babies/infants that men cannot.

That's why men shouldn't be allowed to adopt infants or babies. Not because they are more of a threat, just that for me kids at that age need a mother or motherly figures.

Blokes bond better with their own kids once they reach the toddler stage as it is.

Why a bloke would want to change nappies in a nursery is beyond me as well. That shit comes from maternal instinct.

So mother dies in child birth

Social services should take the kid off the dad?

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

So mother dies in child birth

Social services should take the kid off the dad?

🤦🏻🤦🏻

38 minutes ago, royal white said:

@Spider you ok?

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It's absolutely a knee jerk. You've read a few stories and jumped to the illogical conclusion that the best way to stop things happening again is to ban all men from working with young children and prevent homosexual couples from adopting.

It woundn't be knee jerk if you'd looked at credible research that suggested that there was a particular problem with male care workers and/or homosexual men who adopt children.

But my understanding from posts on this forum is that there hasn't been a link found between the two. If you've found some credible research that suggests otherwise then I'm happy to read it and I might even change my mind.

But until then - I'll call it out for what it is. A knee jerk.

2 issues - men in child care - there is a case, as men commit most cases of sexual abuse it would be really unusual if the same did not apply in any area including child care. I have no idea if men in children care are more likely to commit child abuse than men not in child care.

Gay adoption - there is not.

13 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

So mother dies in child birth

Social services should take the kid off the dad?

You clearly didn't read my other replies.

I'm saying a baby is better with a mother.

Not really that hard to grasp is it.

16 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You clearly didn't read my other replies.

I'm saying a baby is better with a mother.

Not really that hard to grasp is it.

A good mother, yes. If the mother is a junkie, I'm sure you'd rather the baby was adopted by a nice gay couple.

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

A good mother, yes. If the mother is a junkie, I'm sure you'd rather the baby was adopted by a nice gay couple.

Indeed.

I'd rather the said baby be adopted by a female first though.