madthatter

To be fair his perception and experience of intolerance and inequality has come from seeing Islam have a much broader crack of the whip in this country over the last two decades or so than other racial/religious groups. The permission to protest/not to protest in Luton being an example No surprise he focuses on them as that's where the problems he's addressing lie. This has more recently become a free speech issue. Granted, he makes the most out of it but isn't that what all 'journalists' do? My like of TR is about the principal, not the context so much. Did you read about some of the discrimination (which is what it was) against non-Muslim groups in Luton and across the country? I didn't, yet these kind of inequalities should not be tolerated. TR has done well to highlight this imo. If it actually became more mainstream you may find it stops folk veering more to the far right as a counter.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/basketball/43836214 I have absolutely no issue with this. It's legal in a good few states so why make it an issue? Like someone having a beer the day before a game. Where drugs are concerned our (the west's) society really is hypocritical. No argument can get away from that and it defies belief we still have such archaic laws in this country

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44364542 Genuine grievance or shit stirring? In fairness to Pep (and I have no knowledge of his past actions in this regard) his results over the season more than justify his decisions. Seems like sour grapes to me and if so, a pretty shitty thing to accuse someone of. But who knows?

Frustrating isn't he? Saying to my brother Sat - there's not a 'footballing brain' between the lot of them, but he's especially poor given the physical ability. Spain or Germany would rip that midfield a new arse hole, or three. Also frustrates when another team tweak their set up and it takes England 45 minutes to adjust - which is a symptom of the above. Still, if Wales can make the Euro Semis then anything is possible.

Wasn't he captain? Anyway, a (ahem) well respected ex-international, Champs league, winner etc and a youth player calls him by a nick name not long after he arrives at the club? Like I say, so long as there's consistency I think his reaction is fine to be honest. Most probably a storm in a tea cup though.

1990s kits for me. Think i prefer a blue 'away' over red as well. Sacrilege, I know.

Aye but who's having a session on non-alcoholic ale? Surely you can ask the bartender/person/whatever to add less ale than half and have weak lager?

Does the potential thrill of a Glory Hole not make it worth it?

In an ideal world i'd nationalise all public transport but doubt it would be that simple. Should we have a referendum?

Wankers

How do you reckon Rioch would have responded if a YT had called him Bruce (and Colin)? No problem there if he's consistent with it. Quite like the old school respect from top down approach.

Some bod on R4 just now saying NR should be stripped of their licence (or whatever) if they keep fcuking up. NR said they'd reimburse cancelled trains and late ones. Wouldn't hold my breath that that would be an easy process to claim back. My little lad loves trains. I think they're utter wank.

Agreed. Although a properly made shandy isn't a bad substitute.

Seems rather civilised. Ray gun nozzle beats left hand wash any day. Although if the water pressure is quite high there is that ever present danger of spraying loose particles where you'd prefer them not to be. Had to squat and wash many a time in India, feels clean(ish) but i'm sure there's a knack I never quite sussed. Not the sort of thing you can ask your rickshaw driver about though . . . I remember Rice and Three bogs always had a water jug next to the loo.

Me and my brother had a week with my Nan and Grandad every year as kids at her mate Winnies B&B. Loved it My Grandad making us walk all the way to Stanley Park as he was too tight to get the bus ha ha - always a highlight. Not been for years but perhaps best left to those more innocent memories! I imagine it's a good day out on the lash

If any repercussions are based on subjective offence then I'd say that means one's freedoms to speak are affected. UK laws on free speech/defamation are stricter than most western nations as it is. I agree society changes and there's always been repercussions but that's to do with defamation and civil unrest etc. The Scottish 'comedian' would a good recent e.g. - sentenced for a joke ( a shit one aye) as a Judge found it offensive. That's a slippy slope. Hate speech could potentially be used far too broadly, that's my concern - not that I can't call a tranny just that if I so chose to.

Hate speech laws - potentially. I'm happy to, said that. Well, I'm more than happy to not offend someone if politeness is the order of the day. I'm English ffs! Were I a cnut though and said, 'No, fcuk off, you're a man, clearly' - Dave might get offended. As you would, right? But then - and this is where my issue is - he complains to the police that you used hate speech and Bingo, you have a record and potentially get sent down. Where's the free speech there?

Didn't say you didn't. I said it's being eroded slowly. Mick, any society in history that tolerated restrictions on free speech never ended well. Like I say, it's not the small stuff- I don't mind referring to Dave as Sandra if it makes him happy but I don't like being forced to. It's a slippery slope. Surely you can see that?

I agree 100%. It's easy to go all tin foil hat on such subjects but just look around. That pie comedian summed it up saying free speech isn't cool anymore. It's bang on yet folk are happy to see their freedoms eroded as it means a tiny minority won't get offended . . . They'll be getting offended at something else soon and then . . . Anyone with a strong opinion is made to seem like a loon. My worry with all this isn't the small stuff it's the longer term. What happens when/if a really dangerous loon gets power and free speech is doctored, the press are all bent and they have control of military and police? Oh that would never happen you loon . . . Well, it's happening right here and now. The backlash towards the far right by many across Europe being a prime example. Ever listened to Jordan Peterson? Speaks a hell of a lot of sense yet every time I've seen him on mainstream networks over here they try to make him look daft and archaic. There's an good e.g. on YT where he talks to two lasses on the BBC, one of them created the equality act.

Quality! Is that from viz? Saw a porno once with that anissa Kate. All going swimmingly until you saw she had a patch of dangleberries. Can't watch her anymore. Tragic.

As I'm sure you were both aware I was being fascetious! But he seemed happy enough to state his feelings on the subject knowing, I assume, how you'd feel about it. On that last bit, aye I agree. I got slated, even called a nonce by some on here, for suggesting that the age of consent is a shifting morality and no one culture has the 'right answer'. That's why I said about his own daughter. Surely, if you believe a menstruating girl is fair game the acid test would be allowing sex with your own daughter at that stage?

All true but as Swanny says, that's not the law or custom here and they know it. Funny how folk on the lash in say Thailand don't go causing criminal damage or cause social disturbance, as may be 'custom' here, after a session, as the lash is what they'd be getting. What's also not culturally acceptable, even in Pakistan, is drugging girls or getting them pissed - Muslims ain't that keen on alcohol far as I'm aware - and then raping them against their will, branding them and then passing them round your mates. I suspect cash may also trade hands somewhere along the line. Mohammed would be so proud . . . Well . . . Winkey face . . . I think? I'd be genuinely interested to know if the feelings differ for whites and non Muslims vs Muslims though. Seriously. Although, again, experience makes me think I may know the answer to that one. Should have asked him if he'd have been OK with a non Muslim, or a Muslim as it goes, poking happily away at his ten year old bleeding daughter. I suspect not but who knows until you ask? Not saying your lying btw but I was at a school recently and lots of the kids, around 9, were fasting and being massive pains in the arse about it. Not right or healthy imo but there you go.

So long as a nail brush is available post push. Wasn't there someone on here a while back that complained they could never get rid of the arse smell on their towel no matter how much they cleaned it? Cleaned their arse that is

Not remotely interested

Lad I knew once pood into his hand and then threw it at another mate. Wiped his hand on builders sand but managed to perform the task without dropping trousers or Keks.