AI is coming for us

[Underpants]

We are at the thin edge of the wedge with AI. It's a frightening thought but AI will eventually be so good nobody will trust anything that is put out there. Doubt will become our enemy.

[thebells]

8 hours ago, Underpants said:

We are at the thin edge of the wedge with AI. It's a frightening thought but AI will eventually be so good nobody will trust anything that is put out there. Doubt will become our enemy.

We’re single digit years away from AGI, and ASI is the logical and almost immediate consequence of AGI. 

The world will change in ways we can’t even comprehend within the next decade. 

I agree about the issue of doubt in the short term. Long term; well that’s up to the technology. Time will tell if it’s benevolent or malevolent. 

[Underpants]

Over the past 18 months I have noticed an increase of misinformation and especially AI content on social media. It's a plague and it's winding me up more than it should.

[BobyBrno]

17 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Over the past 18 months I have noticed an increase of misinformation and especially AI content on social media. It's a plague and it's winding me up more than it should.

This is true.

At the same time, AI can also counter any misinformation if it’s used properly. (See other thread) Taking AI to a logical conclusion, it can’t lie unless it’s manipulated by humans then it’s not truly AI. 
 

[Dimron]

24 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Over the past 18 months I have noticed an increase of misinformation and especially AI content on social media. It's a plague and it's winding me up more than it should.

Do what I do and buy a newspaper every day... they are still regulated.

I vary between Guardian and Times but avoid the Mail

[Underpants]

4 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Do what I do and buy a newspaper every day... they are still regulated.

I vary between Guardian and Times but avoid the Mail

Misinformation has always been around. But the misinformation I'm on about is mainly the shite folk say on SM and it's reposted as fact by fucking dimwits. The internet has sped this thing up to light speed. 

AI is the new kid on the block. There will be a point where the likes of you and me will find it impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff. AI will be our overlord and doubt will be the enemy.

[Zico]

8 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Misinformation has always been around. But the misinformation I'm on about is mainly the shite folk say on SM and it's reposted as fact by fucking dimwits. The internet has sped this thing up to light speed. 

AI is the new kid on the block. There will be a point where the likes of you and me will find it impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff. AI will be our overlord and doubt will be the enemy.

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[Dimron]

14 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Misinformation has always been around. But the misinformation I'm on about is mainly the shite folk say on SM and it's reposted as fact by fucking dimwits. The internet has sped this thing up to light speed. 

AI is the new kid on the block. There will be a point where the likes of you and me will find it impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff. AI will be our overlord and doubt will be the enemy.

It seems the more it is reposted the more it becomes truthful. Everyone is shouting out with very little to say, just as long as they get their "likes"... that is where I go wrong, I have never wanted to (and still dont) be liked.

[Winchester White]

AI is definitely taking my job at some point, anyone who's even remotely related to programming is toast.

What annoys me most is shit project managers will also get binned eventually but later than the good workers will. Ah well, what will be is what will be.

[Underpants]

8 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

AI is definitely taking my job at some point, anyone who's even remotely related to programming is toast.

What annoys me most is shit project managers will also get binned eventually but later than the good workers will. Ah well, what will be is what will be.

No one is safe. AI is coming for all of our jobs in one way or another. 

I don't even know the if the porn I'm watching is real or not. 

Edited September 7, 2025 by Underpants

[Dimron]

4 minutes ago, Underpants said:

No one is safe. AI is coming for all of our jobs in one way or another. 

That is the problem...we were promised an utopian life where work was a thing of the past but we are now presented with industrialists and politicians telling us we are a drain on society

[Tonge moor green jacket]

On 06/09/2025 at 20:07, thebells said:

We’re single digit years away from AGI, and ASI is the logical and almost immediate consequence of AGI. 

The world will change in ways we can’t even comprehend within the next decade. 

I agree about the issue of doubt in the short term. Long term; well that’s up to the technology. Time will tell if it’s benevolent or malevolent. 

Both.

[Winchester White]

59 minutes ago, Dimron said:

That is the problem...we were promised an utopian life where work was a thing of the past but we are now presented with industrialists and politicians telling us we are a drain on society

Eh?

[boltonboris]

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Edited September 8, 2025 by boltonboris

[boltonboris]

12 hours ago, Winchester White said:

AI is definitely taking my job at some point, anyone who's even remotely related to programming is toast.

What annoys me most is shit project managers will also get binned eventually but later than the good workers will. Ah well, what will be is what will be.

What is the end game though? We used to think of AI as being some utopia where we could all kick our feet up and have machines do all the shit so we can have a leisurely life. The state would rake it in and we'd all be taken care of.

The reality is very different. AI is being developed so aggressively as business demand solutions to paying people wages while still being able to produce. 

At some point and pretty soon I imagine, there'll be no wealth for the average person. Only a handful of conglomerate founders. So businesses will not be able to sell their products to anybody, as nobody will have the money to buy them.

 

[thebells]

18 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

What is the end game though? We used to think of AI as being some utopia where we could all kick our feet up and have machines do all the shit so we can have a leisurely life. The state would rake it in and we'd all be taken care of.

The reality is very different. AI is being developed so aggressively as business demand solutions to paying people wages while still being able to produce. 

At some point and pretty soon I imagine, there'll be no wealth for the average person. Only a handful of conglomerate founders. So businesses will not be able to sell their products to anybody, as nobody will have the money to buy them.

 

Nobody truly knows the end game. It will reveal itself organically over time.

You're right though. We're fast moving to a genuine post scarcity model and AI will certainly speed this along. Once we get to that point, humanity will start looking for alternative meaning beyond work. We currently work to survive, but we won't need to at some point very soon. Houses will be built for us, shopping will be done for us, healthcare will be provided by non humans. We will likely all be paid some sort of Universal Basic Income too, but far beyond what we earn today and more than enough to live better than most wealthy people currently do. We'll need to find meaning from other sources.

This change will happen far quicker than any previous revolution (in fact this will be the final revolution). 

I know some people can't get their head around it, but imagine meeting a family member in 1900 and telling them about mobile phones, social media, 7 hour flights to New York and so on - they'd have thought you were mad. Only difference here is that this will all likely happen in the next 10-20 years.

There will be huge instability in the short term though, as some experience unemployment before others, whilst some parts of the world adapt to AI and it's advances quicker than others. 

I hope Governments are able to effectively legislate quickly so that we can manage this shift. In the hands of bad actors, AI is a huge problem. If we retain control, it can advance us as a species and allow us to live more fulfilling lives.

All just my opinion of course (albeit i am fascinated by it and have read quite a lot around AI). 

Oh. AI could also be the thing that ends humanity. But i'll save that for another day 🙂 

 

 

[boltonboris]

43 minutes ago, thebells said:

We will likely all be paid some sort of Universal Basic Income too, but far beyond what we earn today and more than enough to live better than most wealthy people currently do.

I'm not sure I share this level of optimism... I think it's far more likely that 'we' will feeding off scraps because we won't have an income of any sort.

I can't currently see a world where people whose jobs have been taken by AI will have any kind of help from Governments and/or the business that will profit from it at levels we have never seen before. 

Imagine a company like Amazon. With zero payroll. Do you think they'll suddenly find some level of benevolence, or do you think they'll continue avoid tax payments and ensure maximum profitability and wealth for a small group of share-holders at the expense of people?

[thebells]

Short term i agree. AI undoubtedly brings opportunity, and there will always be people to take advantage of it. A small number of huge companies will profit beyond belief. 

I'm looking slightly longer term. We will have abundant access to every type of resource we need, and companies like Amazon simply won't exist. You'll be able to order a bespoke TV for your living room, have it made and delivered within minutes, and it likely won't cost you a penny. It will be developed in a factory that is environmentally friendly (because AI will nail that issue first), doesn't deplete our natural resources (because AI will nail that too), and be delivered to your house before you've had your breakfast. You wont need to paint or wallpaper since your AGI house buddy will do that. And if you change your mind a day later, you can change it all again. This free's you and I up to travel the world, keep fit, spend time with friends and live a more wholesome life. We'll become more creative as a species. 

We're effectively returning to a pre commercial world - the difference this time is that we won't need to compete for resources. I don't believe commercial organisations will be able to profit, since there wont be anything to profit from. 

I know you mentioned optimism. It makes me a little sad if I'm honest. I'm 47 and I love working. I'd struggle to adjust. I'm probably just about ok based on current life expectancy in that i'll be disappearing as these things start to embed as a way of life. 

Again, I'm happy to admit i may be a million miles wide of the mark, but i like to think that by pushing the boundaries of what is and isn't possible, it might make me slightly better prepared. And isn't the unknown part of the fun in life.

Anyway, probably one to discuss over a beer  

 

[Spider]

A mate of mine was telling me that he went to B&Q at the weekend.

He fucking hates self service tills anyway, but the ones at B&Q are particularly shit. There’s no room to put your stuff down and scan it all, but that also means they don’t weigh anything.

Anyway, the scanner was being temperamental and when he called an assistant over, they sorted it then told him he couldn’t take the basket outside the shop even though he had several bulky items.

as a result, he didn’t scan 2 tons of paint or the table lamp he’d got, resulting in B&Q losing out on £92.97 of income.

£92.97 would almost certainly cover the wage of a teenager for a Saturday.

He said that if B&Q expect him to work on a till whilst shopping there, his fee/wages as a non contract employee are about £100.

Serves them right, the cunts.

[Sweep]

19 minutes ago, Spider said:

A mate of mine was telling me that he went to B&Q at the weekend.

He fucking hates self service tills anyway, but the ones at B&Q are particularly shit. There’s no room to put your stuff down and scan it all, but that also means they don’t weigh anything.

 

We bought a plant at the weekend from our local B&Q, I can confirm, their self check out are fucking rubbish - we did still pay the £5.99 for our plant though

[thebells]

5 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We bought a plant at the weekend from our local B&Q, I can confirm, their self check out are fucking rubbish - we did still pay the £5.99 for our plant though

B and Q is going downhill. Last time i went in the 'friendly here to help' type person greeted me by asking if i wanted decking!

[Sweep]

52 minutes ago, thebells said:

 

We're effectively returning to a pre commercial world - the difference this time is that we won't need to compete for resources. I don't believe commercial organisations will be able to profit, since there wont be anything to profit from. 

Unfortunately, there will always be competition for resources, what those resources are will no doubt change over time, for now energy and water are going to be the big drivers. No matter what happens, if there is something people need, then somebody will try and profit from it

I'm not sure AI is going to lead us to some communist utopia where we want for nothing and everything is lovely and evenly spread. There will always be the rich, and where there are "rich" there will always be a lot more poor.

I'm glad that I'll probably be dead before we get to the stage where AI is making the really important decisions (and I do think it'll happen), so I'm happy to let the next generation worry/think about that. Although, maybe not all bad news, I'm sure I heard something along the lines of 50% of all todays jobs, didn't exist 50 years ago, so maybe there will be new jobs created that we can't even fathom at the moment (such as polishing/buffing the exo-skeletons of our cyborg overlords)

[little whitt]

42 minutes ago, Spider said:

A mate of mine was telling me that he went to B&Q at the weekend.

He fucking hates self service tills anyway, but the ones at B&Q are particularly shit. There’s no room to put your stuff down and scan it all, but that also means they don’t weigh anything.

Anyway, the scanner was being temperamental and when he called an assistant over, they sorted it then told him he couldn’t take the basket outside the shop even though he had several bulky items.

as a result, he didn’t scan 2 tons of paint or the table lamp he’d got, resulting in B&Q losing out on £92.97 of income.

£92.97 would almost certainly cover the wage of a teenager for a Saturday.

He said that if B&Q expect him to work on a till whilst shopping there, his fee/wages as a non contract employee are about £100.

Serves them right, the cunts.

Just for DIY Dick heads 

useing some paint on a job 

From BQ its shite 

White its just like Milk 

[thebells]

44 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Unfortunately, there will always be competition for resources, what those resources are will no doubt change over time, for now energy and water are going to be the big drivers. No matter what happens, if there is something people need, then somebody will try and profit from it

I'm not sure AI is going to lead us to some communist utopia where we want for nothing and everything is lovely and evenly spread. There will always be the rich, and where there are "rich" there will always be a lot more poor.

I'm glad that I'll probably be dead before we get to the stage where AI is making the really important decisions (and I do think it'll happen), so I'm happy to let the next generation worry/think about that. Although, maybe not all bad news, I'm sure I heard something along the lines of 50% of all todays jobs, didn't exist 50 years ago, so maybe there will be new jobs created that we can't even fathom at the moment (such as polishing/buffing the exo-skeletons of our cyborg overlords)

Like you, I'm also glad it'll likely impact my life less than, say, my son.

And, short term, it will create jobs like you say. I run a marketing agency and the nature of people i employ will change over the next couple of years. Longer term though, its unlikely my business (or any like it) will exist.

I'm not selling a utopia here. And it may not happen. I just enjoy pushing those 'what if' boundaries. What i will hang my hat on though, is that our minds cannot conceive of what is about to happen. Once we move from AGI to ASI (within 10 years i'd say), all bets are off. The pace of change will be so quick we wont know whats happening. And humanity will change in ways we can't fathom. 

It's frightening and exciting in equal measure. 

[Spider]

49 minutes ago, little whitt said:

Just for DIY Dick heads 

useing some paint on a job 

From BQ its shite 

White its just like Milk 

My mate saved £40 on some wood paint.

so fuck em