Cheese Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 Just now, London Wanderer said: I completely agree. Ban access to social media until the age of 18 and smart phones until the same age. We'd see huge improvements to mental health. Problem is that parents see the 13 guidelines and don't properly understand the risks. Then they let them on at 11 or 12 thinking it's no different to getting their 17 year old a pint or letting their 10 year old watch a 12 rated movie. We're on the same page then. It's down to idiotic parenting. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 21 minutes ago, Cheese said: We're on the same page then. It's down to idiotic parenting. Algorithms & age guidelines 🤣 Didn’t know parents were deciding those Quote
Cheese Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Algorithms & age guidelines 🤣 Didn’t know parents were deciding those Neither of those things are applicable to kids without parental consent. 🤷♂️ Unless loads of kids are paying their own broadband and mobile phone bills? Edited October 13, 2024 by Cheese Quote
gonzo Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 41 minutes ago, Cheese said: We're on the same page then. It's down to idiotic parenting. Sanctimonious bullshit. Quote
Cheese Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 (edited) 37 minutes ago, gonzo said: Sanctimonious bullshit. Common sense. If we all generally agree that access to Social Media should be heavily restricted until the age of 18, why the fuck are we giving them access to it earlier? And the "we" includes me. I just don't have the same level of concern as others have expressed in this discussion. Edited October 13, 2024 by Cheese Quote
only1swanny Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 Facebook, meta etc all store and sell data, I like to point out that everything is permanent, and we're also going to have young people facing a world of saved posts ready to destroy careers. I show them examples, none of them realised that someone can screenshot a WhatsApp and you loose control..as in their eyes "encrypted" means your safe. Prime example bring that rugby lass over the summer. Issue is though as there's no escaping the net, there's echo chambers. FOMO, kids comparing themselves to Instagram models, trolls, fake news, deep fakes, and that's before we mention the ones with pure ill intent. Quote
gonzo Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 56 minutes ago, Cheese said: Common sense. If we all generally agree that access to Social Media should be heavily restricted until the age of 18, why the fuck are we giving them access to it earlier? And the "we" includes me. I just don't have the same level of concern as others have expressed in this discussion. Because not everything is about you and your children. Quote
Cheese Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Because not everything is about you and your children. Eh? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/ai-red-line-b2687013.html Quote
Sweep Posted January 30 Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/ai-red-line-b2687013.html DeepSeek has already suffered a massive cyber attack, seems their security isn't too great... Qwen by Alibaba will be the next "big thing" - and I'd expect new AI platforms to start appearing on a daily/weekly basis once the Chinese are back to work next week Quote
kent_white Posted January 30 Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/ai-red-line-b2687013.html I've been reading a lot about this. The idea of a self improving and self replicating AI. Conceivably it could reach what they call a singularity of exponential growth and improvement in the blink of an eye. And this AI would be far in excess of human cognitive abilities - so it's unlikely that we'd be able to cope with the technological acceleration- and the unpredictability of a essentially God like AI. There's also a more troubling scenario that I won't tell you about. Otherwise you'll already be at risk of your eternal soul being tortured simply by knowing about it. Unfortunately- I'm fucked! 🤣 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 Oh, go on! Does it inform us of our impending doom as a result of climate change, or similar? One thing I do wonder: as it gets that point, won't it need more electricity and hardware? In which point it will have to take over machinery to build requisite plant. Remember "Kill Dozer"? Quote
Sweep Posted January 30 Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Oh, go on! Does it inform us of our impending doom as a result of climate change, or similar? One thing I do wonder: as it gets that point, won't it need more electricity and hardware? In which point it will have to take over machinery to build requisite plant. Remember "Kill Dozer"? it will, and then that'll be the point where it becomes self aware and launches an all out attack on humanity. The only safe havens will be third world shitholes that are still lurking in the 20th century like Congo, Sudan, Leigh, Rwanda and Zimbabwe and the such like Quote
Zico Posted January 30 Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/ai-red-line-b2687013.html “We hope our findings can serve as a timely alert for the human society to put more efforts on understanding and evaluating the potential risks of frontier AI systems, and form international synergy to work out effective safety guardrails as early as possible.” When instructed to clone themselves in the event of being shut down, the two models successfully replicated themselves in more than half of the 10 trials conducted Solution don't instruct them or allow them to clone themselves Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 59 minutes ago, Zico said: “We hope our findings can serve as a timely alert for the human society to put more efforts on understanding and evaluating the potential risks of frontier AI systems, and form international synergy to work out effective safety guardrails as early as possible.” When instructed to clone themselves in the event of being shut down, the two models successfully replicated themselves in more than half of the 10 trials conducted Solution don't instruct them or allow them to clone themselves Hmm. Tricky one. If you want them to learn, then isn't that a risk anyway? Can't they change their own coding so to speak? If they can't manage to "learn" then is it actually AI? Fuck knows! Quote
kent_white Posted January 30 Posted January 30 5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Oh, go on! Does it inform us of our impending doom as a result of climate change, or similar? One thing I do wonder: as it gets that point, won't it need more electricity and hardware? In which point it will have to take over machinery to build requisite plant. Remember "Kill Dozer"? Don't say I didn't warn you! 😁 As soon as you read it - you're condemned. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk Quote
green genie Posted January 30 Posted January 30 6 hours ago, kent_white said: I've been reading a lot about this. The idea of a self improving and self replicating AI. Conceivably it could reach what they call a singularity of exponential growth and improvement in the blink of an eye. And this AI would be far in excess of human cognitive abilities - so it's unlikely that we'd be able to cope with the technological acceleration- and the unpredictability of a essentially God like AI. There's also a more troubling scenario that I won't tell you about. Otherwise you'll already be at risk of your eternal soul being tortured simply by knowing about it. Unfortunately- I'm fucked! 🤣 We’ve seen it in the Matrix. Harnessing fusion nuclear power could be AIs greatest achievement and biggest threat Quote
Winchester White Posted January 30 Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, green genie said: We’ve seen it in the Matrix. Harnessing fusion nuclear power could be AIs greatest achievement and biggest threat It's probably what we deserve to be honest. Quote
jayjayoghani Posted January 30 Posted January 30 50 minutes ago, Winchester White said: It's probably what we deserve to be honest. It's a beautiful morning. Bolton got a new manager and on the up. Life is good. Nothing like some world class misanthropy to knock me back down 😆 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 21 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said: It's a beautiful morning. Bolton got a new manager and on the up. Life is good. Nothing like some world class misanthropy to knock me back down 😆 Aye. Rather we put the world right, than condemn ourselves to oblivion. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 1 hour ago, kent_white said: Don't say I didn't warn you! 😁 As soon as you read it - you're condemned. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk Chwat! 😁 I'm going fishing tomorrow, connecting with nature. Fuck the machines. Quote
Zico Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 hour ago, kent_white said: Don't say I didn't warn you! 😁 As soon as you read it - you're condemned. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk I don't know what is real anymore I don't know what real is either Quote
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