Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Spider said: Imagine charging less for the same service when gas bills are now measured in bullion. Youre a bit mad, you. As I said, it wasn't a personal question about Zico's business model. Try thinking about it a bit more. Imagine your competitor is charging 10 times less than you are because he uses AI, and his customers are getting the same product. Edited May 10, 2023 by Cheese Quote
Moderators Zico Posted May 10, 2023 Moderators Posted May 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: It's not necessarily the same service though. Would you pay a coding expert twice the price to do something a kid with access to google could do? Or do it for free yourself via google? Speaking theoretically of course, but that's the future. the future is now, it's been like that for years why pay a UK expert to do a job when you can go on fiverr.com and employ a kid in the phillipines for $10 coding, logos, design, etc many people are happy to do this incidently you can employ AI artists on there already so someone in India will already be doing AI images for less than folk in the UK doing AI images Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zico said: the future is now, it's been like that for years why pay a UK expert to do a job when you can go on fiverr.com and employ a kid in the phillipines for $10 coding, logos, design, etc many people are happy to do this incidently you can employ AI artists on there already so someone in India will already be doing AI images for less than folk in the UK doing AI images Exactly. And it's only going to become more prevalent, and drive prices down to virtually nothing. There's not really any way back. The way of the world innit. Edited May 10, 2023 by Cheese Quote
globaldiver Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 Good article in last weekend’s Sunday Times Quote
Moderators Zico Posted May 10, 2023 Moderators Posted May 10, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: Exactly. And it's only going to become more prevalent, and drive prices down to virtually nothing. There's not really any way back. same as it ever was you just need to embrace it and add a USP you will more than likely always need a subjective element to anything that AI does in terms of creative work / output but it's no different than mobile and web technology changing the business landscape that existed befor the 90s / 00s Quote
jeep Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Cheese said: No, it was a genuine question. In the days that it took a carpenter 4 hours to saw a plank by hand, I'm pretty sure they stopped charging as much when mechanical saws were invented. They just got more work that could be done faster. And if they didn't, their customers said "Why the fuck am I paying you to cut a plank of wood by hand that could be done by a machine at a fraction of the price?" Doubt it. The problem you've created for yourself is that most folk now think you're deliberately being a cunt. Which is a shame because when you're not an annoying twat you come over quite well 😁 Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Zico said: same as it ever was you just need to embrace it and add a USP you will more than likely always need a subjective element to anything that AI does in terms of creative work / output but it's no different than mobile and web technology changing the business landscape that existed befor the 90s / 00s I agree. Maybe it'll invoke a counter movement. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, jeep said: Doubt it. The problem you've created for yourself is that most folk now think you're deliberately being a cunt. Which is a shame because when you're not an annoying twat you come over quite well 😁 It was, I promise. I have no problem with anyone using AI to their advantage. Just find it interesting. Don't care what other people think of me personally. Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 Anyone fancy providing a link and a guide how to use it for ermmm my mate? Ta Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Anyone fancy providing a link and a guide how to use it for ermmm my mate? Ta https://chat.openai.com/ It will tell you the rest. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 Cue Spider posting "It's shit. I asked it <something random> and it said <something stupid>." Quote
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 10, 2023 So where do these ai bots scrape their info from? The likes of wiki etc? Quote
CambridgeBWFC Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: So where do these ai bots scrape their info from? The likes of wiki etc? Basically whole Internet and they look for replication to guide accuracy/authenticity as well as other statistics. It is impressive how quickly it can sift, sort and generate information, but will of course be prone to errors if the source material is limited or 'corrupted' Quote
CambridgeBWFC Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: I know of a bloke who is looking at using it to assess students. His reasoning is that in the real world you learn by asking questions. The better questions you ask, the better you learn. He's looking at how to record the questions a student will ask and assess them on that and how they get to their learning outcome. Not sure i understand this, are they asking people to provide the questions they have asked a AI bot to solve specific problems? Quote
mickbrown Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said: Not sure i understand this, are they asking people to provide the questions they have asked a AI bot to solve specific problems? He'll be recording their questions. He says it's easy to do through an API although he is a bit of a genius Quote
Moderators Zico Posted May 10, 2023 Moderators Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: So where do these ai bots scrape their info from? The likes of wiki etc? pretty much some aren't real time though and may not have scraped the web for a while, so can be out of data just asked google bard (who have access to "live" web data), our latest result: Bolton Wanderers' most recent match was on May 7, 2023, against Bristol Rovers. They won the match 3-2. then asked another: The most recent Bolton Wanderers football match and result I know of is Bolton Wanderers' 1-0 victory over Mansfield Town on May 7, 2023 in the English League Two (source: BBC Sport). which links to a broken page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61398597 which is why you shouldn't just trust what they say out the box Quote
green genie Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 6 hours ago, CambridgeBWFC said: Basically whole Internet and they look for replication to guide accuracy/authenticity as well as other statistics. It is impressive how quickly it can sift, sort and generate information, but will of course be prone to errors if the source material is limited or 'corrupted' T’internet is basically heading for being a battlefield of false information and propaganda Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Cheese said: Cue Spider posting "It's shit. I asked it <something random> and it said <something stupid>." It’s version of Taylor Swift being brutally sodomised by me isn’t anything like as good as I’d hoped #ChatgptOut Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Cheese said: Cue Spider posting "It's shit. I asked it <something random> and it said <something stupid>." It doesn’t even do pictures Xhamster is safe for now Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 11, 2023 It’s decent at answering the important questions though. Quote
globaldiver Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 To stop AI in its tracks just requires a few celebrities to rail against it. Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, globaldiver said: To stop AI in its tracks just requires a few celebrities to rail against it. Bad news: Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 11, 2023 When you set AI the task of writing your research document for a doctorate, does it also let you know where it got its information from? Does it list references throughout your dissertation? Quote
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