Sweep Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, tomski said: If the tax benefit goes I’m moving back to petrol next year. Our "Guinea pig" at work who has been driving the Tesla for the last 3 years, to see if it's viable or not, I've just found out a few minute ago, has decided to hand it back in a couple of months when the lease is up. His words, were apparently "It's OK if you do fuck all miles, but if you want to do over 300 miles in a single day, it's wank" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Glad I’ve done it as I envisage charge points will cost a fortune if they ever enforce it. If they don’t, then it’ll be like my equivalent of the dust buster from future Hill Valley showing kids that power their cars on farts that we used to do this for a couple of weeks😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 Charge points will be subject to similar price fluctuations as fuel. Especially whilst fossil fuels are still being used to generate leccy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sweep said: Our "Guinea pig" at work who has been driving the Tesla for the last 3 years, to see if it's viable or not, I've just found out a few minute ago, has decided to hand it back in a couple of months when the lease is up. His words, were apparently "It's OK if you do fuck all miles, but if you want to do over 300 miles in a single day, it's wank" Kinell, in the overall scheme of things there won't be too many doing 300+ in a day. Wouldn't call the alternative as "fuck all" neither. A bit extreme. Bit surprised that folk doing such mileage went electric so soon, even as a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Charge points will be subject to similar price fluctuations as fuel. Especially whilst fossil fuels are still being used to generate leccy. Yep, and there will also be "Dynamic Pricing" as well, so it'll be more expensive to charge at certain times of the day (I think the Tesla chargers may already do this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Sweep said: Yep, and there will also be "Dynamic Pricing" as well, so it'll be more expensive to charge at certain times of the day (I think the Tesla chargers may already do this) Makes sense, especially as they want public smart chargers to be available for going the other way to help with load. A long way to go for that though. Wonder why car parks aren't laden with solar panels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Kinell, in the overall scheme of things there won't be too many doing 300+ in a day. Wouldn't call the alternative as "fuck all" neither. A bit extreme. Bit surprised that folk doing such mileage went electric so soon, even as a trial. We had to, as we supply so much to the EV market, it's around 25% of our turnover.....hence he was selected as a guinea pig, to see if it could be made to work. It's not uncommon for people who have a job similar to me to be doing 750/1000 miles per week, so 250/300 miles in any given day isn't impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Sweep said: We had to, as we supply so much to the EV market, it's around 25% of our turnover.....hence he was selected as a guinea pig, to see if it could be made to work. It's not uncommon for people who have a job similar to me to be doing 750/1000 miles per week, so 250/300 miles in any given day isn't impossible. Must be fucked, especially given traffic these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Makes sense, especially as they want public smart chargers to be available for going the other way to help with load. A long way to go for that though. Wonder why car parks aren't laden with solar panels? Most of them don't have a physical roof, the top floor is usually open.. There are more and more solar farms cropping up though, which is good to see, especially as Solar Panels now cost next to fuck all. There is an absolutely colossal one being built just outside Grimsby that seems to stretch for miles Interesting/Dull fact for you.....there are more unsold solar panels in storage/warehouses across Europe, than have ever been sold for use across Europe. The price is falling through the floor, because there are just so many of them, it's reached saturation point, hence they're almost giving them away now, as the new ones coming through from China are now a lot more efficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Must be fucked, especially given traffic these days. If you avoid driving around the M25, M60 or on the M6 or M1, then it's OK 😁 I've just done my expenses, and I've done 1890 miles so far this month, and I've not got caught in traffic once.....although on other occasions I can barely get out of my village. I've a nice 350 mile round trip to embark on, to Newport, tomorrow which I'm not overly looking forward to - the plus point is, that I know I can do it on just half a tank of diesel. And at 45p a mile, it'll be a nice little earner as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 Solar panels don't have to go on a roof! A nice, south facing wall will do, even if it's not quite the optimum angle. If they're as cheap as chips now, then you could do with talking to Sharon. She's quite progressive and a load of them on the toughsheet will help save/generate some income. I see there are a number of charging points near the hotel now- it's happening slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, tomski said: Yeah same here. I did teathered as I thought how miserable it would be getting my car cable out as it rains 300 days a year. Well worth it if you ever do. I’m just going to leave a 3 pin lead plugged into the outside plug. It waterproof and it’s a ball ache putting it away every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Solar panels don't have to go on a roof! A nice, south facing wall will do, even if it's not quite the optimum angle. If they're as cheap as chips now, then you could do with talking to Sharon. She's quite progressive and a load of them on the toughsheet will help save/generate some income. I see there are a number of charging points near the hotel now- it's happening slowly. fuck that, there is zero money in panels, we avoid them like the plague and let others deal with them. The inverters and batteries however are a different proposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, Sweep said: fuck that, there is zero money in panels, we avoid them like the plague and let others deal with them. The inverters and batteries however are a different proposition She'll have ten of each! Especially if we win this. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 24, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 24, 2023 See toyota have been chatting about their solid state battery Reckon its about 5 years off, can charge in 10 minutes, 700 miles range, but concern over end of life And the chargers will need to be the size of the moon to perform in 10 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Casino said: See toyota have been chatting about their solid state battery Reckon its about 5 years off, can charge in 10 minutes, 700 miles range, but concern over end of life And the chargers will need to be the size of the moon to perform in 10 minutes 700 miles in 10 minutes! Kinell, some going that. I still wonder why they didn't go for an interchangeable battery system as routine, though Chinese are looking at that system. Would need a good number of spare, fairly standard units I suppose. Look beyond lithium now though. Many alternatives being looked at, with superior performance in different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 19 Site Supporter Share Posted February 19 Taking the piss! https://www.thecooldown.com/green-tech/ev-battery-recycling-urine-lithium-cobalt/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 The two largest EV Charger manufacturers in the UK have both recently made over 25% of their manufacturing workforce redundant, due to lack of orders. One of them, made 25% redundant just before Christmas as well. The whole EV industry is absolutely fucked at the minute, and it's not helping my pocket one bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 19 Site Supporter Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Sweep said: The two largest EV Charger manufacturers in the UK have both recently made over 25% of their manufacturing workforce redundant, due to lack of orders. One of them, made 25% redundant just before Christmas as well. The whole EV industry is absolutely fucked at the minute, and it's not helping my pocket one bit Inevitable following the decision to put the end of ice vehicles back. Companies had put a lot of investment in with that in mind. Hopefully they will come back as we approach the deadline again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Inevitable following the decision to put the end of ice vehicles back. Companies had put a lot of investment in with that in mind. Hopefully they will come back as we approach the deadline again. Correct. There are also already rumblings that it will be pushed back again in a few more years. The people I deal with are already talking about a push back to 2040, with Hybrids being pushed back to 2045. Whilst that sounds a long way out, it'll be around 2045/2050 before we have suitable infrastructure in the UK to accommodate a large amount of EVs on the road (and this is from their figures/research, not me guessing) - there is also talk, that within the next 20/25 years that a "synthetic" fuel could be manufactured to make it economical enough to use in ICE engines, which would mean we never need to go fully EV. I suspect that like Hydrogen, that's a long, long way off in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, Sweep said: Correct. There are also already rumblings that it will be pushed back again in a few more years. The people I deal with are already talking about a push back to 2040, with Hybrids being pushed back to 2045. Whilst that sounds a long way out, it'll be around 2045/2050 before we have suitable infrastructure in the UK to accommodate a large amount of EVs on the road (and this is from their figures/research, not me guessing) - there is also talk, that within the next 20/25 years that a "synthetic" fuel could be manufactured to make it economical enough to use in ICE engines, which would mean we never need to go fully EV. I suspect that like Hydrogen, that's a long, long way off in reality. I'll stick to my 79p a litre LPG, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 45 minutes ago, Traf said: I'll stick to my 79p a litre LPG, then. Definitely. I actually got just over 800 miles out a single tank of my dirty diesel last week, and it worked out at just under 10p a mile, which is pretty decent - so I also won't be rushing to get an EV anytime soon (although Mrs Sweep has just got a Mini Electric, which is nice enough, but has an absolute dogshit range of only about 150 miles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Sweep said: Definitely. I actually got just over 800 miles out a single tank of my dirty diesel last week, and it worked out at just under 10p a mile, which is pretty decent - so I also won't be rushing to get an EV anytime soon (although Mrs Sweep has just got a Mini Electric, which is nice enough, but has an absolute dogshit range of only about 150 miles) 800 miles is good going indeed. We get around 380-420 miles from a £35/45 litre 'fill' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestar Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 Used to have an old Scudo van 08 reg. Tank would take about 80 ltrs but it seemed to last forever that diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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