February 4, 20251 yr I have no idea really but beyond reasonable doubt is looking a bit shaky. BBC News - Lucy Letby: Why are medical experts disputing evidence? - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8y28ny1n0o
February 4, 20251 yr 56 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I have no idea really but beyond reasonable doubt is looking a bit shaky. BBC News - Lucy Letby: Why are medical experts disputing evidence? - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8y28ny1n0o It is certainly looking very hard to say ‘beyond reasonable doubt’. It will be interesting to see when this work is peer reviewed. But as with previous stories it is only fair to note that this is another version of what has happened produced by her defence team. The panel are described as ‘working with the defence’ although says they have not received any money.
February 4, 20251 yr We wouldn’t need to waste any more time / money on this if we’d just given her the death penalty. No need to appeal when you’re 6 feet under.
February 4, 20251 yr The baby killer should have gone to the gallows. Plenty would have happily pulled the lever.
February 4, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, Underpants said: The baby killer should have gone to the gallows. Plenty would have happily pulled the lever. Well she was found Guilty. It's not possible for someone to be found Guilty if they're not. 🤷♂️
February 4, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: If she is released then surely it’s evidence against the death penalty There has always been evidence against the death penalty.
February 4, 20251 yr 16 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: If she is released then surely it’s evidence against the death penalty Do we need any more 'evidence'? The only people who want to bring it back are just thick bloodlusters, no better than the fundamentalist savages in countries they claim to dislike. Edited February 4, 20251 yr by Cheese
February 4, 20251 yr I think we should be very grateful we don't live a country that carried it. It simply doesn't prevent crime. America is proof of that.
February 4, 20251 yr 56 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I think we should be very grateful we don't live a country that carried it. It simply doesn't prevent crime. America is proof of that. very much against it, let them suffer.
February 4, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, only1swanny said: very much against it, let them suffer. I would say it's more about avoiding executing the wrong people. Edited February 4, 20251 yr by Underpants
February 5, 20251 yr 28 minutes ago, Underpants said: I would say it's more about avoiding executing the wrong people. And that's why we statutes and our law.
February 5, 20251 yr 34 minutes ago, only1swanny said: very much against it, let them suffer. That's not I'm against the death penalty. It simply doesn't stop crime and no sane democracy should kill anyone.
February 5, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: That's not I'm against the death penalty. It simply doesn't stop crime and no sane democracy should kill anyone. Neither does jail
February 5, 20251 yr 6 hours ago, only1swanny said: very much against it, let them suffer. “Inside LL luxurious prison life” https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/regional-news/lucy-letbys-luxurious-prison-life-8998373
February 5, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, royal white said: Neither does jail Very good point. Back to the previous discussions. The Southport case: killer witnessed carrying out the crime and was found with the weapon standing over a victim. Etc. This situation, even if guilty, is different. As for the evidence in this case, given the increasingly contested claims, would the cps had given the green light for charging? If so, would a jury have found her guilty- particularly on all counts? Parents must be in bits, but it's vital that the full truth comes out. If, as the doctor says, it's poor care and natural causes, then someone has covered it up and/or been happy for someone else to take the blame.
February 5, 20251 yr 40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Very good point. Back to the previous discussions. The Southport case: killer witnessed carrying out the crime and was found with the weapon standing over a victim. Etc. This situation, even if guilty, is different. As for the evidence in this case, given the increasingly contested claims, would the cps had given the green light for charging? If so, would a jury have found her guilty- particularly on all counts? Parents must be in bits, but it's vital that the full truth comes out. If, as the doctor says, it's poor care and natural causes, then someone has covered it up and/or been happy for someone else to take the blame. It's literally the worst point. So jail doesn't prevent crime, so let's kill people. Let's roll back. What does prevent crime and criminal activity? Is it harsher sentences? We had harsher sentences in the 18th and 19th centuries - didn't stop crime, murder and abuse. We'll always need jails and punishment when people transgress our collectively agreed societal rules. But prevention, much like in medicine, is and always has been the real answer.
February 5, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: It's literally the worst point. So jail doesn't prevent crime, so let's kill people. Let's roll back. What does prevent crime and criminal activity? Is it harsher sentences? We had harsher sentences in the 18th and 19th centuries - didn't stop crime, murder and abuse. We'll always need jails and punishment when people transgress our collectively agreed societal rules. But prevention, much like in medicine, is and always has been the real answer. Don't think you really understood either his or my point.
February 5, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: It's literally the worst point. So jail doesn't prevent crime, so let's kill people. Let's roll back. What does prevent crime and criminal activity? Is it harsher sentences? We had harsher sentences in the 18th and 19th centuries - didn't stop crime, murder and abuse. We'll always need jails and punishment when people transgress our collectively agreed societal rules. But prevention, much like in medicine, is and always has been the real answer. Bring back hanging, drawing and quartering! That should do it!
February 5, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: Bring back hanging, drawing and quartering! That should do it! It wouldn’t, it could save 10s of millions though which could then be invested in other areas
February 5, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, royal white said: “Inside LL luxurious prison life” https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/regional-news/lucy-letbys-luxurious-prison-life-8998373 Oh, aye. Sounds proper luxurious. What a ridiculous article.
February 5, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, DazBob said: Oh, aye. Sounds proper luxurious. What a ridiculous article. There’s people who go to work who live in worse conditions. It’s hardly making them suffer
February 5, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, royal white said: There’s people who go to work who live in worse conditions. It’s hardly making them suffer Which people are these, and what jobs have they got?
February 5, 20251 yr Popular Post 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: Which people are these, and what jobs have they got? Travel Agents
February 5, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, royal white said: “Inside LL luxurious prison life” https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/regional-news/lucy-letbys-luxurious-prison-life-8998373 so it says In keeping with prison rules, it is expected that the convicted murderer will spend at least 22 hours in her cell alone each day, including Christmas. She would have likely been allowed to read newspapers and books and watch television, but not much else. For an hour of the day, she would have been able to exercise and walk the prison grounds. “Letby seems happy as Larry. She is in a nice cell and on her own." then it says "The three were ‘inseparable’ and spent months enjoying luxuries such as sunbathing, karaoke and movie nights. Our source said: “They were together 24 hours a day - they were a well-known threesome and were literally never apart. They’d spend hours sitting on the wing landing playing board games, eating dinner together and tanning in the courtyard. I think they got on because they all believed they were innocent.” so if she's meant to be in a cell 22 hours a day, and she's not, then why not, because as it stands she's a convicted murderer and isn't getting the punishment others would get or some one is making things up
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