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Wycombe Wanderers (H)

Has this been cancelled or something? - can’t see a thread for our next game on Saturday. If there is one please merge.

Anyhoo, it’s a tough one but we’re at home. All of a sudden, they are 2 points off the playoffs and have a game in hand on Huddersfield in 6th so there’s no way they won’t be fired up for this. They’ve been scoring for fun at home this last month, less so away but they have players all over the park that can find the net including Mr Morley, formerly of this parish.

They must be thinking playoffs in which case they need something off us…..but we’re not going to give them anything are we? 

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11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No it doesn't.

I never understand this argument, when it is there for the benefit of both teams.

I'm sure all teams would like to have any goals they legitimately scored actually given.

 

It might be of benefit of both teams at our ground but we would effectively having an extra ref/linesman that might not be available at say Mansfield who would be at a disadvantage as they don't have the technology 

Shouldn't be using technology in one match when another in the same league can't have the benefit 

I was bemoaning the system change shortly after as I thought we just making some headway and it seemed to stunt us a little.

What do I know and what a tremendous piece of ingame management.

56 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

I would be looking to bring him in permanent in the Summer......Will only get better

One of my lads just bumped into him at Piccadilly station. Suitcase in tow, looks like the players have been given some down time.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No it doesn't.

I never understand this argument, when it is there for the benefit of both teams.

I'm sure all teams would like to have any goals they legitimately scored actually given.

 

yes it does

1 hour ago, Didledee said:

I didn't think Huddersfield would be beaten as that is super rare, but that yesterday was off the scale, even if this season comes to nothing, that is a game for our future generations to look back on, like we do with old vhs highlights etc now, a quite unreal moment in our history.

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google gave this answer when asking about this late comeback.

Here are some of the most notable examples of this specific scenario:

Bolton Wanderers vs. Wycombe Wanderers (March 7, 2026): In a recent League One match, Bolton was trailing 0-2 until the 88th minute before scoring three goals to win 3-2 in stoppage time.

Manchester City vs. QPR (May 13, 2012): Arguably the most famous Premier League comeback. City needed a win to secure the title but was losing 1-2 going into stoppage time. Edin Dzeko equalized (90+2') and Sergio Agüero scored the winner (90+4') to win 3-2.

Bournemouth vs. Everton (2024/25 Premier League): Bournemouth achieved an extraordinary recovery in the 2024/25 season, scoring three goals in the final minutes to beat Everton 3-2 after trailing by two.

Barcelona vs. PSG (March 8, 2017 - "La Remontada"): While not 2-0 down late, Barcelona was down 3-1 on the night (trailing 4-0 from the first leg) and required three goals in the final seven minutes to win 6-1 (6-5 on aggregate).

Manchester United vs. Lyon (April 17, 2025): Manchester United came back from 4-2 down, scoring twice in the final minute of extra time to win 5-4 in a remarkable Europa League match

We did have that extraordinary comeback win at Mansfield during COVID - another 3-2. In that one though it all happened in the last 10 minutes, not the last two plus added time! 

I can recall us coming back from 2-0 down at Northampton on the last day of the season in the late 80s and doing the same at Burnden against Crewe in the early 90s. Again though nothing to match the lateness of yesterday's drama.

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Just on the Conway future position debate, I'm not seeing it.  Looks like a left back all day long to me, he'll improve the defensive side of his game (positioning mainly) as he gains experience. 

Looks nothing like a central midfielder, and won't be "left midfield" as I'm not sure that position exists does it?  You're either a winger or a wing back - and yes of course he can play wingback comfortably.

But wingers have a starting position high up the pitch, taking away that ability to turn defence into attack with surging runs, and also meaning his great passing ability isn't of much use.  Wingers don't "pass", they beat a man and cross.  And he doesn't have the pace of a ACD, CBT or Gale.

He's a great left back for this level and he won't be changing position IMO.

Yes after I'd typed left midfield I thought the same about the position dying out. Some still play the old 442 but appreciate not us in general. 
 

How about left side of central midfield 😀

1 hour ago, Didledee said:

I didn't think Huddersfield would be beaten as that is super rare, but that yesterday was off the scale, even if this season comes to nothing, that is a game for our future generations to look back on, like we do with old vhs highlights etc now, a quite unreal moment in our history.

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google gave this answer when asking about this late comeback.

Here are some of the most notable examples of this specific scenario:

Bolton Wanderers vs. Wycombe Wanderers (March 7, 2026): In a recent League One match, Bolton was trailing 0-2 until the 88th minute before scoring three goals to win 3-2 in stoppage time.

Manchester City vs. QPR (May 13, 2012): Arguably the most famous Premier League comeback. City needed a win to secure the title but was losing 1-2 going into stoppage time. Edin Dzeko equalized (90+2') and Sergio Agüero scored the winner (90+4') to win 3-2.

Bournemouth vs. Everton (2024/25 Premier League): Bournemouth achieved an extraordinary recovery in the 2024/25 season, scoring three goals in the final minutes to beat Everton 3-2 after trailing by two.

Barcelona vs. PSG (March 8, 2017 - "La Remontada"): While not 2-0 down late, Barcelona was down 3-1 on the night (trailing 4-0 from the first leg) and required three goals in the final seven minutes to win 6-1 (6-5 on aggregate).

Manchester United vs. Lyon (April 17, 2025): Manchester United came back from 4-2 down, scoring twice in the final minute of extra time to win 5-4 in a remarkable Europa League match

Another involving Bolton 1978   Bolton 3 up at half time and lost 4-3 at Chelsea

2 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

Another involving Bolton 1978   Bolton 3 up at half time and lost 4-3 at Chelsea

Listened on the radio and heard we were 3 0 up with 20 min left. Went out for a game of footy with pals and told them the score. Felt a right dick when I got back and read the back page of The Buff.

5 hours ago, onefinfrandsen said:

He was great when he came on, real football brain when he’s on it. Dropping deep , finding space, linking up with team mates, and crucially yesterday has an end product.

If you watch the 2nd goal back he had two really good involvements at the beginning of the build up, including a great crossfield ball to Conway, then made the ground up from halfway to get on the end of CBT's cross. 

He's a really decent player at our level 

2 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

It might be of benefit of both teams at our ground but we would effectively having an extra ref/linesman that might not be available at say Mansfield who would be at a disadvantage as they don't have the technology 

Shouldn't be using technology in one match when another in the same league can't have the benefit 

Eh?

No they wouldn't. 

They still play another team, so not having it affects them both equally. 

Just like having it does. 

We have a better pitch than many other teams. I would imagine all players prefer a good surface, rather than a rolled beach.

It still benefits both teams that play on it.

Wouldn't want to see it given less attention because others' pitches are worse.

57 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Yes after I'd typed left midfield I thought the same about the position dying out. Some still play the old 442 but appreciate not us in general. 
 

How about left side of central midfield 😀

I'm nevertheless scratching my head by the concept of wingers not passing the ball.

Just beating a man and crossing it.

I'd like to think the professional game is more complex than that.

 

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Eh?

No they wouldn't. 

They still play another team, so not having it affects them both equally. 

Just like having it does. 

We have a better pitch than many other teams. I would imagine all players prefer a good surface, rather than a rolled beach.

It still benefits both teams that play on it.

Wouldn't want to see it given less attention because others' pitches are worse.

Last day of the season we have a goal which is given by the technology 

Cardiff score but no technology means it's not given 

As a result we go up automatically 

It's not an even playing field in both matches 

3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Last day of the season we have a goal which is given by the technology 

Cardiff score but no technology means it's not given 

As a result we go up automatically 

It's not an even playing field in both matches 

EFL won't bring it in unless it's universally adopted

1 minute ago, jmjhb said:

EFL won't bring it in unless it's universally adopted

And rightly so 

2 hours ago, L/H White said:

nope not for me, needs to be available at every stadium for it to be fair 

I don’t understand how it’s fair / unfair or whatever. Us having goal line tech in my opinion has no bearing on results anywhere else. 
 

If the other teams want as a result of feeling hard done to, then it’s not a particularly expensive bit of infrastructure. Also any team that’s been in the championship at any point in the last decade they’ll already have it 

3 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I don’t understand how it’s fair / unfair or whatever. Us having goal line tech in my opinion has no bearing on results anywhere else. 
 

If the other teams want as a result of feeling hard done to, then it’s not a particularly expensive bit of infrastructure. Also any team that’s been in the championship at any point in the last decade they’ll already have it 

What if you're hard done by as an away team? 

Just now, DirtySanchez said:

What if you're hard done by as an away team? 

If it’s a legitimate goal you wouldn’t be hard done by 😉

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

I don’t understand how it’s fair / unfair or whatever. Us having goal line tech in my opinion has no bearing on results anywhere else. 
 

If the other teams want as a result of feeling hard done to, then it’s not a particularly expensive bit of infrastructure. Also any team that’s been in the championship at any point in the last decade they’ll already have it 

We have the benefit of it in 23 games, whereas others only have one!

Realistically, there’s probably quite of lot of League One teams got it now, with the churn of clubs from the Championship. Nevertheless, unless it’s the same for EVERY match, it shouldn’t be deployed.

Just now, boltonboris said:

If it’s a legitimate goal you wouldn’t be hard done by 😉

It is if it's not given 

1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

Another involving Bolton 1978   Bolton 3 up at half time and lost 4-3 at Chelsea

3 up with 20 Left… Paul Jones had to fill in at right back and Clive Walker ripped him.

Edited by Mounts Kipper

1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

Another involving Bolton 1978   Bolton 3 up at half time and lost 4-3 at Chelsea

There was a similar shitshow at Watford in the mid 90s.

3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Just on the Conway future position debate, I'm not seeing it.  Looks like a left back all day long to me, he'll improve the defensive side of his game (positioning mainly) as he gains experience. 

Looks nothing like a central midfielder, and won't be "left midfield" as I'm not sure that position exists does it?  You're either a winger or a wing back - and yes of course he can play wingback comfortably.

But wingers have a starting position high up the pitch, taking away that ability to turn defence into attack with surging runs, and also meaning his great passing ability isn't of much use.  Wingers don't "pass", they beat a man and cross.  And he doesn't have the pace of a ACD, CBT or Gale.

He's a great left back for this level and he won't be changing position IMO.

Wing back for me…. Lads gonna command decent transfer fee one day. 

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Wing back for me…. Lads gonna command decent transfer fee one day. 

Wing back for me too. Conway and Rodrigues looked  busy yesterday  and were certainly effective in the goals.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm nevertheless scratching my head by the concept of wingers not passing the ball.

Just beating a man and crossing it.

I'd like to think the professional game is more complex than that.

 

It was a generalisation.  A midfielder like Morley, Sheehan, EE etc probably pass the ball long and short 30 or 40 times a game.  Its a particular skill, its all about quick reactions, vision and reading of the game.  But ask them to beat a man one on one and they don't have that skillset. 

The likes of Gale and Cissoko can beat a man in their sleep, but you wouldn't trust them to pick out a pass accurately 25 yards away.  They cross it or shoot, with varying levels of accuracy (to put it politely).  If they pass it, its 10 yard back to the full back or 10 yards inside to Sheehan etc.  Generally.

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