jimmyjoojar Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Just read this in the BN, is nice to hear Sammy coming out and talking sense. The lad is obviously very keen to make his mark and its refreshing to hear our manager come out and be so positive. Something that I feel BSA wasn't great at doing. http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/wanderers/w..._fans_fears.php "It's not a close-season for us, far from it," he said. "I know they (supporters) have heard a lot of negatives, about people going out. But let me assure them that nobody will be leaving here unless we sanction it and unless it's for the betterment of the football club - and there will be incomings. "I want to encourage people and assure them that there is no brain drain and that, although there will be people going, we will be getting some very good people into the football club. "And that's no criticism of the previous regime, because I was part of that regime. "But there is now an opportunity for me to take this club forward and to do that I know I have to bring my own pople in. And those people will be quality people, whether they be staff or whether they be players. "I've got my ideas, I've got my targets. It's just that, at the moment, they can't be announced out of respect for other clubs and other people." It is one of football's worst kept secrets that Frank McParland, who is currently Liverpool's joint chief scout, is the man Lee has chosen to fill the newly-created role of general manager. It is also common knowledge that Mark Taylor, who has spent the last six years as head of sports science and medicine at the Reebok, has quit and is on the verge of joining his old boss, Sam Allardyce at Newcastle. Mike Forde, the sports psychologist who carried the title "performance director", is also tipped to move to Tyneside. But Lee, who is a stickler for protocol, refuses to comment specifically or identify any of his targets, until it suits all parties. "I do have my general manager in place but, at the moment, it would be remiss of me to name him," he said. "There has been speculation but that hasn't come from us. I know everybody wants an announcement and I want to allay their fears, but I have to respect other people's situations and those people are still at other cluibs at the moment. "Just because there have been no announcements doesn't mean there's nothing going on. "I can understand people's fears because all we hear is negatives, about people leaving - the drain. But, whatever happens, quality replacements will be brought in. "We are a foward thinking club and we certainly don't want to lose our best players. The chairman is fully aware of that. "All people hear is one side of the story with people coming in for our players. But the chairman, the owner and myself are in constant talks with the players."
Sweep Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I quite like that, I especially liked this bit: But let me assure them that nobody will be leaving here unless we sanction it and unless it's for the betterment of the football club - and there will be incomings.
jimmyjoojar Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 I quite like that, I especially liked this bit: The thing with Sammy is that when you hear him speak he sounds a bit of a numb f?cker, seems to want to talk quicker than his brain will allow (typical Scouse).
YATESY Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I like what I am hearing from Sammy. Unlike the media whore that he replaced, our new manager is not milking the press but when he does speak it sounds good (that is what you read in written form - rather than hearing him actually speak!!)
Sweep Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 The thing with Sammy is that when you hear him speak he sounds a bit of a numb f?cker, seems to want to talk quicker than his brain will allow (typical Scouse). I agree, he's not very "TV friendly" so very little chance of him turning into a media whore....................which is no bad thing
Ani Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 so the club are outting some good news out. i wonder do they read this site everyday ? why employ marketing/communication experts when you can get free consultancy on here !!
Guest as Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Soooo glad he isn't 'one for the telly', really hope he keeps up the good work that BSA started for us. Little Sam
jayjayoghani Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I'll be judging Sammy Lee on next May's league position and little else.
exiledwhite2 Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I'll be judging Sammy Lee on next May's league position and little else. Correct Aidy Boothroyd talks a fookin good game Look where it got them
jimmyjoojar Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) And more sense from the man: http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/wanderers/w..._own_merits.php I especially liked this bit "I would like us to be adaptable, to have more than one system of playing," he said. "We were excellent at 4-3-3 but you have to give the opposition credit because sometimes they prepared their team, their game plan for how we played and, if you've only got one way to play, other teams can accommodate it, combat it and, in the end, over-run it. "I'd like to be adaptable, but that's down to the personnel. So the targets we are looking at are targets for different systems of play." Edited June 1, 2007 by jimmyjoojar
exiledwhite2 Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 And more sense from the man: http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/wanderers/w..._own_merits.php I especially liked this bit "I would like us to be adaptable, to have more than one system of playing," he said. "We were excellent at 4-3-3 but you have to give the opposition credit because sometimes they prepared their team, their game plan for how we played and, if you've only got one way to play, other teams can accommodate it, combat it and, in the end, over-run it. "I'd like to be adaptable, but that's down to the personnel. So the targets we are looking at are targets for different systems of play." I don't like that one bit This 'system' has given us success beyond our wildest dreams Only an idiot would change it
jimmyjoojar Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 Correct Aidy Boothroyd talks a fookin good game Look where it got them Very true, but we've been used to a diet of moaning and groaning from Sam in the papers, missed targets, not enough money, getting at the fans. It seems at least for the time being Sammy is making something of an effort to put out positive vibes. But you're right if we're relegated then all the good sensible talk means bugger all. Still, it made decent reading to me
Sweep Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I don't like that one bit This 'system' has given us success beyond our wildest dreams Only an idiot would change it Surely it is good for us to have a "plan B" though, which is something we have never really had before
Ani Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I don't like that one bit This 'system' has given us success beyond our wildest dreams Only an idiot would change it nope only an idiot would not change it when it was nt working. 4-3-3 is the starting point but some flexibilty when needed has to be good
jimmyjoojar Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) I don't like that one bit This 'system' has given us success beyond our wildest dreams Only an idiot would change it FFS!! The word used was adapting, rather than changing. Our "system" has been sussed on a number of occasions over the last few seasons now, especially at home against the supposedly weaker teams. Teams play a similar formation and are happy to sit back and we seem to run out of idea and steam very quickly. What Sammy is saying that he wants us to be a bit less predictable, and be able to set up the team based on who we are playing. For all the good work Sam did, I don't think many people would disagree that we had become predictable in our approach. Edited June 1, 2007 by jimmyjoojar
exiledwhite2 Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Fair enough I just think that 2 seasons in Europe suggest it was 'working' But on a game to game basis maybe you folks are right...what the hell would we do different though? Our plan A is what most teams do when they need a plan B
jimmyjoojar Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 Fair enough I just think that 2 seasons in Europe suggest it was 'working' But on a game to game basis maybe you folks are right...what the hell would we do different though? Our plan A is what most teams do when they need a plan B I think you are correct in a sense, our Plan A did work a lot of the time. But how many times did we look devoid of ideas when Plan A wasn't working. For all BSA's achievements, he didn't exactly set the world on fire when it came to using substitutions and changing tatics. We have become used to grinding out results, something which i believe a real fan can appreciate. However I don't think having other options in terms of our formation can be a bad thing. I'll be made up if we start with two upfront against the lesser teams at home with a little more attacking invention. Thats not to say it will work, but I for one would be pleased to see Sammy try it.
HomerJay Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 433 has worked in the past, and will continue to work in the future. sammy is right in what he says. when its not working we have to be prepare to change. and not just continue to bang away like allardyce used to do....
Churchill Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 He doesn't know WTF he's on about Sammy,bring in Pearce is what i say!!
Burndens Bogs Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 And more sense from the man: http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/wanderers/w..._own_merits.php I especially liked this bit "I would like us to be adaptable, to have more than one system of playing," he said. "We were excellent at 4-3-3 but you have to give the opposition credit because sometimes they prepared their team, their game plan for how we played and, if you've only got one way to play, other teams can accommodate it, combat it and, in the end, over-run it. "I'd like to be adaptable, but that's down to the personnel. So the targets we are looking at are targets for different systems of play." Hallefcukinluja.......... Looks like we might have a plan B ( and maybe even a plan C) at last.
Mounts Kipper Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I personally would only like to see the 4-3-3 formation or 4-5-1 as it really is against the top 5 teams, against all other teams it would be 4-4-2 for me.
exiledwhite2 Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I personally would only like to see the 4-3-3 formation or 4-5-1 as it really is against the top 5 teams, against all other teams it would be 4-4-2 for me. Mounts, why do you think we can play that way? Other sides with roughly our calibre of player and our budget refuse to innovate, they play the tired old 4-4-2, and they struggle. I can't see why we'd be any different. The formation has been the key behind our success in my opinion, but then managers f?cking about with tactics is a bugbear of mine. As long as the players know - properly - what their job is I'll be happy. Sam's teams always had that.
passmosster Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Mounts, why do you think we can play that way? Other sides with roughly our calibre of player and our budget refuse to innovate, they play the tired old 4-4-2, and they struggle. I can't see why we'd be any different. The formation has been the key behind our success in my opinion, but then managers f?cking about with tactics is a bugbear of mine. As long as the players know - properly - what their job is I'll be happy. Sam's teams always had that. There was quite a few games after the turn of the year when I thought we had been sussed and had run out of ideas. Win the first balls and mark Davies on the set plays. Every attacking throw is a long one. Allardyce looked to be incapable of changing the formation. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of good balls Anelka got down the channels to run on to. Ex Championship defenders like nothing better than high balls up the middle and a static low tempo game. So I am glad that we have got Sammy Lee. But to play a Plan B we are going to need a more mobile midfield and some pace up front.
cbwfcd Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 A plan B is definently what we need, if we'd have had a plan B last season we'd all be looking forward to Champs League football next year. But the UEFA Cup is probably better anyway. I'm quite looking forward to seeing how it all pans out next season.
Eddie Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 There was quite a few games after the turn of the year when I thought we had been sussed and had run out of ideas. Win the first balls and mark Davies on the set plays. Every attacking throw is a long one. Allardyce looked to be incapable of changing the formation. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of good balls Anelka got down the channels to run on to. Ex Championship defenders like nothing better than high balls up the middle and a static low tempo game. So I am glad that we have got Sammy Lee. But to play a Plan B we are going to need a more mobile midfield and some pace up front. And wingers. And don't say we have Stelios and Diouf, because Stelios is sh1te and Diouf is a striker. We need decent 1's.
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