Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted February 26, 2009 Site Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2009 Home nations players will be needed more than ever! http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4976214,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Nt Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Home nations players will be needed more than ever! http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4976214,00.html Wee'll be reet. Mind you if this does come into place all the decent english players will be playing for the top 6 teams. The rest will have to battle it out for the riff-raff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wee'll be reet. Mind you if this does come into place all the decent english players will be playing for the top 6 teams. The rest will have to battle it out for the riff-raff. Business as usual then ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YATESY Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 If this comes in, let us be thankful that Megson is our manager rather than the foreign-importer who now manages the dingles up the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltonPro15 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Stupid rule. If nothings broken then why fix it. I dont think we'd suffer too much anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Stupid rule. If nothings broken then why fix it. But it is a little damaged, you've got to admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 But it is a little damaged, you've got to admit that. I can see this going the same way as the Bosman, some player/club will take it to court and win and normal services will resume, this is FIFAs way of trying and stopping English clubs winning in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I can see this going the same way as the Bosman, some player/club will take it to court and win and normal services will resume, this is FIFAs way of trying and stopping English clubs winning in Europe + money will override it Non starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I can see this going the same way as the Bosman, some player/club will take it to court and win and normal services will resume, this is FIFAs way of trying and stopping English clubs winning in Europe Why's that then if it's referring to this rule for all clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Why's that then if it's referring to this rule for all clubs? Because I would say (and I will stand corrected on this) that there is more non indigenous players in the English game then any other. And on another point, will this also include Scottish, Irish and Walesh players play in England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Because I would say (and I will stand corrected on this) that there is more non indigenous players in the English game then any other. And on another point, will this also include Scottish, Irish and Walesh players play in England? Which is the point I was trying to make about English football being damaged if not broken. We have to ask the question, why are there more foreign players over here? Are we not nurturing our homegrown talent? Would this new ruling not make countries do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I still can't see how the EU can/will allow this. It is against all their principles of free trade. I would have a lot more respect for what Platini is trying to do if he admitted that it's the Champions League that has unbalanced European (not just English) football. Look at France, the same Champions for seven years running mainly because no one can match Lyon financially because of their Champions League income. Platini holds French football up as an example? No thanks. Putting my English hat on again, why don't UEFA seem to mind Franco's team throwing obscene amounts of money (dubiously gained) around? Accusing English teams of 'cheating' financially when its his ex-team Juventus who were actually convicted of cheating? Give it a rest. The 6+5 rule is just the start of the attempts to stop English clubs dominating Europe. If this doesn't succeed, expect something else. Remember what happened in the mid eighties. I do not want to sound like a little Englander but Platini/Blatter and co are shitting a brick at the prospect of another English dominated Champions League this year and beyond. Personally I don't care how many English players play for the Wanderers. I am proud of any local lad who does play (even though they seem to get dogs abuse) and I think Megson should be applauded for bringing young English talent through but if there was a better foreign player available, in any position, get them signed. England were crap in the seventies and that wasn't down to foreign players so stop blaming them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I still can't see how the EU can/will allow this. It is against all their principles of free trade. I would have a lot more respect for what Platini is trying to do if he admitted that it's the Champions League that has unbalanced European (not just English) football. Look at France, the same Champions for seven years running mainly because no one can match Lyon financially because of their Champions League income. Platini holds French football up as an example? No thanks. Putting my English hat on again, why don't UEFA seem to mind Franco's team throwing obscene amounts of money (dubiously gained) around? Accusing English teams of 'cheating' financially when its his ex-team Juventus who were actually convicted of cheating? Give it a rest. The 6+5 rule is just the start of the attempts to stop English clubs dominating Europe. If this doesn't succeed, expect something else. Remember what happened in the mid eighties. I do not want to sound like a little Englander but Platini/Blatter and co are shitting a brick at the prospect of another English dominated Champions League this year and beyond. Personally I don't care how many English players play for the Wanderers. I am proud of any local lad who does play (even though they seem to get dogs abuse) and I think Megson should be applauded for bringing young English talent through but if there was a better foreign player available, in any position, get them signed. England were crap in the seventies and that wasn't down to foreign players so stop blaming them now. Agree with all of that Platini wasn't moaning about money when he was coining it at Juve in the 80's, he's a c?nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 26, 2009 Members Share Posted February 26, 2009 Agree with all of that Platini wasn't moaning about money when he was coining it at Juve in the 80's, he's a c?nt Even worse, he's a French c?nt. If it's a level playing field with major European clubs, what's the problem? If players choose England over them, they should be looking at what they are doing wrong and trying to fix it. Banning all English clubs after Heysel was a fit up. Wouldn't surprise me if they found some new way of lessening our impact in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Even worse, he's a French c?nt. If it's a level playing field with major European clubs, what's the problem? If players choose England over them, they should be looking at what they are doing wrong and trying to fix it. Banning all English clubs after Heysel was a fit up. Wouldn't surprise me if they found some new way of lessening our impact in Europe. They are so used to subsidising this, subsidising that, they don't know what laissez faire means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wouldn't surprise me if they found some new way of lessening our impact in Europe. Nither would I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 The one good thing about that proposal to play a Premier League match abroad was that it sent Blatter & Platini apoplectic. I hope that if UEFA ever did try to penalise English teams the Premier League would hit back. The ace that the EPL has is its world wide appeal. Millions of Chinese/Japanese/Indians/Malaysians/Africans etc etc would not get up at three in the morning to watch French,German or even Spanish football. UEFA are jealous as fck about this and how it erodes their power. Does anyone really believe that UEFA wants to help the England national team by imposing rosters? Anyway, how many English players played in the Champions League Final last year?, quite a few if memory serves so what is the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboybell Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Of our current squad under the rules proposed we would have, 2 DF Nicky Hunt 3 DF Jlloyd Samuel 5 DF Gary Cahill 6 MF Fabrice Muamba 7 MF Matthew Taylor 14 FW Kevin Davies (captain) 16 MF Mark Davies 19 MF Gavin McCann 27 MF James Sinclair 30 DF Chris Basham 35 FW Tope Obadeyi All would Qualify as they are all eligable to Play for the England National side Rest of squad would be, 1 GK ?d?m Bogd?n 8 MF Joey O'Brien 9 FW Johan Elmander 10 FW Euzebiusz Smolarek (on loan from Racing Santander) 11 MF Ricardo Gardner 15 DF Gr?tar Steinsson 17 MF Riga Mustapha 18 DF S?bastien Puygrenier (on loan from Zenit St. Petersburg) 20 FW Ricardo Vaz T? 21 FW Ariza Makukula (on loan from Benfica) 22 GK Jussi J??skel?inen 24 DF Danny Shittu 25 MF Tamir Cohen 26 GK Ali Al Habsi 29 FW Zolt?n Hars?nyi 31 DF Andy O'Brien If this rule comes in i think would make no diffrence to the way that the team is set up and i think is another tick in the (for Megson) box Edited February 28, 2009 by ringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YATESY Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 If the 6+5 comes, by the time it was been watered down, you can move AOB, JOB, Obadeyi and Vaz from your second list as they were brought through the youth systems in England. Plus you will probably be able to include Jussi and Gardner under some dual-nationality due to them having lived in England for 10+ years. Cohen and Makka Pakka would have to go home though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 If the 6+5 comes, by the time it was been watered down, you can move AOB, JOB, Obadeyi and Vaz from your second list as they were brought through the youth systems in England. Plus you will probably be able to include Jussi and Gardner under some dual-nationality due to them having lived in England for 10+ years. Cohen and Makka Pakka would have to go home though Wasn't Cohen born over here when Avi was playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Wasn't Cohen born over here when Avi was playing? i'll correct my serlf Tamir was born in 84 when Avi was playing in Tel Aviv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboybell Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 i'll correct my serlf Tamir was born in 84 when Avi was playing in Tel Aviv I thought the rule stated that the English players must be eliagable to play for the England national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgywheel Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 And on another point, will this also include Scottish, Irish and Walesh players play in England? Was thinking that myself, a player may be eligible for more than one country, but he may never be good enough for the country of birth ie england, so chooses his grans country, say ireland, would that mean he would be classed as a foreigner in his country of birth. Feel dizzy now thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Even worse, he's a French c?nt. If it's a level playing field with major European clubs, what's the problem? If players choose England over them, they should be looking at what they are doing wrong and trying to fix it. Banning all English clubs after Heysel was a fit up. Wouldn't surprise me if they found some new way of lessening our impact in Europe. It's Friday, it feels like time to do a bit more Blatter / Platini bashing Here's the latest... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7927410.stm 4 teams competing for the league is probably more than any other major league, especially in Europe But I think the first paragraph says all you need to know - "I have my concerns because the Premier League is the strongest in the world, definitely" - which in itself is obviously a problem for Blatter and Platini, the c?nts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 It's Friday, it feels like time to do a bit more Blatter / Platini bashing Here's the latest... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7927410.stm 4 teams competing for the league is probably more than any other major league, especially in Europe But I think the first paragraph says all you need to know - "I have my concerns because the Premier League is the strongest in the world, definitely" - which in itself is obviously a problem for Blatter and Platini, the c?nts Another half arsed qutoe Blatter also believes that the England's top flight has an unhealthy imbalance of power, with only a handful of clubs contesting the title. So Scotland, Spain and Itlay are the same and I'm sure there are a lot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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