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[M G WHITES]

Thanks colditz. Not sure that this forum is what Im looking for. Recently retired, bit of time on my hands, thought it might be good to chat with a few wanderers fans without having to watch the slightest thing I post.

 

I agree with much that goes on at the club- free travel, fanzone , other things such as the quality of football do bother me. From what Ive seen here, you arent supposed to have an opinion. Well just how boring is that when everyone agrees. Looking at some other non BWFC topics seems half the BNP on here with openly racist attitudes which is not anything I want to read.

 

Shut up you big girl

[Zozzy]

Thanks colditz. Not sure that this forum is what Im looking for. Recently retired, bit of time on my hands, thought it might be good to chat with a few wanderers fans without having to watch the slightest thing I post.

 

I agree with much that goes on at the club- free travel, fanzone , other things such as the quality of football do bother me. From what Ive seen here, you arent supposed to have an opinion. Well just how boring is that when everyone agrees. Looking at some other non BWFC topics seems half the BNP on here with openly racist attitudes which is not anything I want to read.

What do you mean "you arent supposed to have an opinion" & "Well just how boring is that when everyone agrees" ?? .There are a lot of differing views on here, in fact the 'Megson is the greatest' views are in the minority.

Russell, a few things you have wrote give me the impression that you haven't come here to offer constructive debate, but have come to criticise the good people of wanderersways and cause a bit of trouble.

Edited March 24, 2009 by Traf

[bolty58]

What do you mean "you arent supposed to have an opinion" & "Well just how boring is that when everyone agrees" ?? .There are a lot of differing views on here, in fact the 'Megson is the greatest' views are in the minority. Russell, a few things you have wrote give me the impression that you haven't come here to offer constructive debate, but have come to criticise the good people of wanderersways and cause a bit of trouble.

 

There are a lot of good points in Zozzys post but this is the key one. It seems that rivals is infested with anti Megsonites and it is actually they who are intolerant of any contrary views.

[Breightmet Boy]

I know its from another thread but i wonder what Harry Goslin would think of the Anti-Megson brigade

 

Before the game started, Harry Goslin, the team captain, spoke to the crowd: "We are facing a national emergency. But this danger can be met, if everybody keeps a cool head, and knows what to do. This is something you can't leave to the other fellow, everybody has a share to do."

 

Read and learn from a ex-wanderer and war hero

[YATESY]

What do you mean "you arent supposed to have an opinion" & "Well just how boring is that when everyone agrees" ?? .There are a lot of differing views on here, in fact the 'Megson is the greatest' views are in the minority.

Russell, a few things you have wrote give me the impression that you haven't come here to offer constructive debate, but have come to criticise the good people of wanderersways and cause a bit of trouble.

 

 

Traf - your edit on this post; didn't we recently start seeing a little explanation as to why the edit was made?

[Traf]

Traf - your edit on this post; didn't we recently start seeing a little explanation as to why the edit was made?

 

Yes, the explanation for a mod edit is a good tool that should be used each time we amend a post without just removing it.

 

I forgot to add a reason last night, sorry.

I was just tidying the post up: nothing sinister.

[Guest as]

The problem I have with the anti-megson bunch is that they only have one point of view, which I can take as long as they back it up with a well rounded opinion but most dont, a great many of us can see what hes trying to do, alright it doesn't always work, yes he as had a pop at the fans which maybe was not the best thing to do, but again I can see why he did it.

 

It it was a school report I would give Megson a c+ with a note saying plenty of room for improvment, and I think it will come

 

The problem I have with the pro-megson group is that anybody who doesn't agree with them is called a 'idiot', or told to back the team (they usually are - by paying to watch BWFC). A few times a mod/regular posts something, and you get the usual arse-lickers nodding their heads and agreeing with every word.

 

Megson has bought well, but that's it for me. Few good wins versus shite NE sides, out of both cups with barely a whimper and he blames the fucking fans when he's the one choosing the players, tactics & formation. It's wrong to keep chopping & changing a manager, but does ANYONE here think Gary Megson is the man to re-build this club, a la Allardyce?

 

I can see why a new member gets annoyed really, the clique on here has expanded and taken on more and more bummers. Take a look at some of the posts with arguments on them - you can easily tell those with an opinion, and those who just jump on the 'you're a idiot for not liking GM, the clique say so' bandwagon.

[frank_spencer]

The problem I have with the pro-megson group is that anybody who doesn't agree with them is called a 'idiot', or told to back the team (they usually are - by paying to watch BWFC). A few times a mod/regular posts something, and you get the usual arse-lickers nodding their heads and agreeing with every word.

 

Megson has bought well, but that's it for me. Few good wins versus shite NE sides, out of both cups with barely a whimper and he blames the fucking fans when he's the one choosing the players, tactics & formation. It's wrong to keep chopping & changing a manager, but does ANYONE here think Gary Megson is the man to re-build this club, a la Allardyce?

 

I can see why a new member gets annoyed really, the clique on here has expanded and taken on more and more bummers. Take a look at some of the posts with arguments on them - you can easily tell those with an opinion, and those who just jump on the 'you're a idiot for not liking GM, the clique say so' bandwagon.

 

not really however until someone capable of 'pushing on' comes in i'll back megson to keep us up.

 

As a club we're in a catch 22 as things stand survival is all important so that means short term success is needed, however whan Sam took over we were in division 1 so Allardyce had chance to build us up.

 

If only the on field positives about megson matched his Off Field ones

 

until the players start to perform, like we know they can do, week in week out Megson will always have those wanting him out.

 

but unless the club can find someone in the summer who they are sure will be able to take that next step and get us back in the top 8 Megson should stay and finish what he's started

[Athywhite_Mike]

The problem I have with the pro-megson group is that anybody who doesn't agree with them is called a 'idiot', or told to back the team (they usually are - by paying to watch BWFC). A few times a mod/regular posts something, and you get the usual arse-lickers nodding their heads and agreeing with every word.

 

Megson has bought well, but that's it for me. Few good wins versus shite NE sides, out of both cups with barely a whimper and he blames the fucking fans when he's the one choosing the players, tactics & formation. It's wrong to keep chopping & changing a manager, but does ANYONE here think Gary Megson is the man to re-build this club, a la Allardyce?

 

I can see why a new member gets annoyed really, the clique on here has expanded and taken on more and more bummers. Take a look at some of the posts with arguments on them - you can easily tell those with an opinion, and those who just jump on the 'you're a idiot for not liking GM, the clique say so' bandwagon.

 

I don't post a lot on here but do read it every day while on my lunch at work and what you say there as is spot on.

[YATESY]

but does ANYONE here think Gary Megson is the man to re-build this club, a la Allardyce?

 

I have quoted myself a few times on this one, you can see what Megson is trying to do long term - we just need to limp through the short term to reach it. Will Megson be given time to produce- well he ain't going to get the security of a 10 year contract that Allardyce had, so it is very much uncertain.

 

The team and squad has been transformed already under Megson, from the ageing lot on their last legs under BSA to the crew that Sammy Lee put together to the mainly English and home grown team of today. The likes of Jussi, Cahill, M Davies, Muamba, Taylor, K Davies, Elmander are quality players who have many good years infront of them. If Megson is allowed the time to keep adding one or two quality additions per transfer window, then in a few seasons time we will have a very good team.

 

The problem for Megson though, is (either through his own choice or the clubs) he doesn't have the long term security and nor the fans support that Allardyce enjoyed.

 

 

I will conclude with my favourite quote; "long term the future under Megson can be bright - we need to crawl through the short term to reach it".

[Chris T. Church]

I will conclude with my favourite quote; "long term the future under Megson can be bright - we need to crawl through the short term to reach it".

 

And certainly orange!

[Boby Brno]

The problem I have with the pro-megson group is that anybody who doesn't agree with them is called a 'idiot', or told to back the team (they usually are - by paying to watch BWFC). A few times a mod/regular posts something, and you get the usual arse-lickers nodding their heads and agreeing with every word.

 

Megson has bought well, but that's it for me. Few good wins versus shite NE sides, out of both cups with barely a whimper and he blames the fucking fans when he's the one choosing the players, tactics & formation. It's wrong to keep chopping & changing a manager, but does ANYONE here think Gary Megson is the man to re-build this club, a la Allardyce?

 

I can see why a new member gets annoyed really, the clique on here has expanded and taken on more and more bummers. Take a look at some of the posts with arguments on them - you can easily tell those with an opinion, and those who just jump on the 'you're a idiot for not liking GM, the clique say so' bandwagon.

The positioning of posters into the pro/anti Megson camps began with the barracking (booing) of both players and manager. Most of the criticism of other fans has not been for the moaning about the 'ginger one' on the forum but for their moronic vocal abuse at the matches.

I would hazzard a guess that the majority of the booing at matches comes from the anti Megson brigade hence the abuse from other fans on here.

Its been said by many on here that like him or loath him, he is the manager of BWFC so for that reason he should be given FULL support by the fans.

I give you this definition of supporter from the Cambridge dictionary:

1 to agree with and give encouragement to someone or something because you want them to succeed:

[Tombwfc]

but does ANYONE here think Gary Megson is the man to re-build this club, a la Allardyce?

 

No.

 

But then nobody thought Gary Megson was the man to keep the club up.

 

Nobody thought Gary Megson was the man to lead us to mid-table either.

 

Sometimes I recokn it's best to accept that some people know better than we do, and to just let those people get on with the jobs they are paid to do. Megson has done aswell as anyone could've hoped for 18 months ago. All the majority on here ask is that people let him get on with it, without trying to make it as difficult as possible for him to succeed.

[Guest Holly_Goodhead]

No.

 

But then nobody thought Gary Megson was the man to keep the club up. Nobody thought Gary Megson was the man to lead us to mid-table either.

 

Sometimes I recokn it's best to accept that some people know better than we do, and to just let those people get on with the jobs they are paid to do. Megson has done aswell as anyone could've hoped for 18 months ago. All the majority on here ask is that people let him get on with it, without trying to make it as difficult as possible for him to succeed.

 

You have got that wrong.Any experienced manager who could organise a defence would have kept a team up that had a world class striker in the forward line.I expected Bolton to stay up when Megson took over,perhaps you didn't...

[frank_spencer]

You have got that wrong.Any experienced manager who could organise a defence would have kept a team up that had a world class striker in the forward line.I expected Bolton to stay up when Megson took over,perhaps you didn't...

 

We were bottom of the table, i hoped he could keep us up but didn't expect it especially given his poor past record.

 

He has now earnt the right for more time by keeping us up and (as it looks at the moment) getting us to mid table this season.

[tyldesley_white]

We were bottom of the table, i hoped he could keep us up but didn't expect it especially given his poor past record.

 

He has now earnt the right for more time by keeping us up and (as it looks at the moment) getting us to mid table this season.

 

Frank you are wasting your breath trying to explaining this to some people, posters on here keep points these facts out to people but some people choose for what ever reason just ignore them.

[Breightmet Boy]

Everybodys entitled to an opinion, and everybodys view is correct to them. So can we all shake hands and stop discussing things on forums God it would be boring wouldnt it

[waffer cup 07]

I have quoted myself a few times on this one, you can see what Megson is trying to do long term - we just need to limp through the short term to reach it. Will Megson be given time to produce- well he ain't going to get the security of a 10 year contract that Allardyce had, so it is very much uncertain.

 

The team and squad has been transformed already under Megson, from the ageing lot on their last legs under BSA to the crew that Sammy Lee put together to the mainly English and home grown team of today. The likes of Jussi, Cahill, M Davies, Muamba, Taylor, K Davies, Elmander are quality players who have many good years infront of them. If Megson is allowed the time to keep adding one or two quality additions per transfer window, then in a few seasons time we will have a very good team.

 

The problem for Megson though, is (either through his own choice or the clubs) he doesn't have the long term security and nor the fans support that Allardyce enjoyed.

 

 

I will conclude with my favourite quote; "long term the future under Megson can be bright - we need to crawl through the short term to reach it".

 

Well said that man.

[Tombwfc]

You have got that wrong.Any experienced manager who could organise a defence would have kept a team up that had a world class striker in the forward line.I expected Bolton to stay up when Megson took over,perhaps you didn't...

 

You must have won an absolute fucking fortune betting on us after we got smashed 4-0 at Villa, four points adrift with five to play.....

[bolty58]

The one thing I don't see, which as and some insignificants from another site apparently do, is a strong 'pro Megson' brigade. Other than Zozzy and Casino (and they're entitled to their view as much as anyone), I would have said the vast majority on here are in the 'he's here so we have to back him although we don't believe he is the long term solution for the club' category? Then there are the obvious 'haters' who seem to outnumber the pros by about 5 to 1.

 

Maybe I have misread the general opinion on here?

[Gonk]

The one thing I don't see, which as and some insignificants from another site apparently do, is a strong 'pro Megson' brigade. Other than Zozzy and Casino (and they're entitled to their view as much as anyone), I would have said the vast majority on here are in the 'he's here so we have to back him although we don't believe he is the long term solution for the club' category? Then there are the obvious 'haters' who seem to outnumber the pros by about 5 to 1.

 

Maybe I have misread the general opinion on here?

 

 

So what you're saying is that it's all the fault of Casino & Zozzy.

[Eddie]

The one thing I don't see, which as and some insignificants from another site apparently do, is a strong 'pro Megson' brigade. Other than Zozzy and Casino (and they're entitled to their view as much as anyone), I would have said the vast majority on here are in the 'he's here so we have to back him although we don't believe he is the long term solution for the club' category? Then there are the obvious 'haters' who seem to outnumber the pros by about 5 to 1.

 

Maybe I have misread the general opinion on here?

 

Maybe Bolty it's that these people are so against him, that the "balanced" view, or the view that he is here so lets back him, is seen as Pro Megson to them, as they consider anything that is not completely against him to be "Pro-Megson".

 

I personally consider myself to be in the camp of what seems to be the majority, the one of; Wasn't happy with the appointment, Back him as he is the manager, Praise him for keeping us up, Praise him for bringing in decent players, Not too happy with some of the performances and tactics (thats football though), Slow progress is being made, Things could be better, Things could be A LOT worse.

 

If that is seen to be "Pro Megson", or any of these other stupid comments, like Megson is my God, then so be it.

[M G WHITES]

The one thing I don't see, which as and some insignificants from another site apparently do, is a strong 'pro Megson' brigade. Other than Zozzy and Casino (and they're entitled to their view as much as anyone), I would have said the vast majority on here are in the 'he's here so we have to back him although we don't believe he is the long term solution for the club' category? Then there are the obvious 'haters' who seem to outnumber the pros by about 5 to 1.

 

Maybe I have misread the general opinion on here?

 

I may be wrong but i think there a lot on here are just happy to go to the game and just get pissed and

 

if we win we win if not then hey ho Not to take it to serious anymore is my view(done all that)

Edited March 25, 2009 by M G WHITES

[Guest bwfc devon]

I may be wrong but i think there a lot on here are just happy to go to the game and just get pissed and

 

if we win we win if not then hey ho Not to take it to serious anymore is my view(done all that)

Well said MG enjoy the day out, The win is always better but you cant have everything.

[Bigtoe]

I personally consider myself to be in the camp of what seems to be the majority, the one of; Wasn't happy with the appointment, Back him as he is the manager, Praise him for keeping us up, Praise him for bringing in decent players, Not too happy with some of the performances and tactics (thats football though), Slow progress is being made, Things could be better, Things could be A LOT worse.

 

Pretty much my thoughts