frank_spencer Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Thats fine for a foresight, but if it was actually happening how would you feel? How do you think the workers in the car manufacturers are feeling, or even those who worked for Woolwoorths before it went bust? we can all say when it happens we will do this that and the other but when it does happen it is a totally different kettle of fish! but the staff at woolies couldn't directly influence the survival of the business. however in a company with 27 staff (same size as our squad) if all 27 work their nads off then the business will survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton in bedford Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 b*llocks to you mate - who are you to say that I wasn't working? Was I online last night? why nwasn't I online last night? (possibly due to a conference call). Before you assume anything, mate, just think of the consequencies to yourself, especially when you are wrong! Consequences? So Dutch if you can't over or under achive answer this if you can. In Euro 04, did Greece over achieve or did every one else under achieve, or did everyone strive to give 100% and Greece were 50/1 favourites. I'm sure the other teams strived to give 100% so therefore they under achieved, and Greece won the thing at 50/1 they must have over achieved, or did the bookies get it wrong and therefore themselves under achieve? So are you saying we therefore didn't over achieve by getting into Europe, but everyone else under achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted April 25, 2009 Members Share Posted April 25, 2009 Negativity rubs off on to players and can have a detrimental effect on their performance and as such have a detrimental affect on our poition in the Premiership. If you were constantly told negative (or realistic) things at work what would youur apathy be. Yes football is a totally different workplace but the players are just like us - they are people - and if they constantly hear downbeat, negative talk from their manager how do you think they feel? Please read that over and over again until it becomes your mantra. Numb c?nts in the stands waving soppy fcuking cardboard signs and others on bedsheets; booing players and the manager; constantly slagging off the manager and some players in cyberspace - how is that supposed to spur on the players to greater heights? I believe there's a fair chance you are one of these 'fans' which would mean that your post (and especially the last sentence) was the height of fcuking hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalWanderer Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 So you dislike the club PR Officer because Megson says as it is rather than spinning everything into a positive? Be realistic. We could end up in a relegation scrap! ?So what is it that he says that pisses you off? First of all great result today many had us down for a loss (they not me must have been being realistic) Great to see that Megson can make a change and that being the player who turns in a goal!! Congrats!!! Now back to the question!! Q. what does he say...........??? A. Anything and everything that comes out of his gob!!! Have i made myself clear?? Just my opinion don't slate me for it but negative people don't achieve in my eyes!!! COME ON YOU WHITES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambwfc Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 [/b] First of all great result today many had us down for a loss (they not me must have been being realistic) Great to see that Megson can make a change and that being the player who turns in a goal!! Congrats!!! Now back to the question!! Q. what does he say...........??? A. Anything and everything that comes out of his gob!!! Have i made myself clear?? Just my opinion don't slate me for it but negative people don't achieve in my eyes!!! COME ON YOU WHITES!!! It's probably been mentioned before, but many managers employ similar tactics, O'Neill will often talk up the opposition before a game, for me it more than often adds pressure to the opposition. For instance, had Megson said that Boro were 'a really shite team that deserves to go down', do you not think that they would play even better to beat the guy who had said that. Whereas if, as Megson did, Megson says "Villa are a really good that work really hard and have good players (paraphrased)" not only does it, in my opinion, pressure Villa's players a bit it also means that if they take the lead our players won't instantly drop their heads thinking 'we've really let the side down' instead that pressures off them and they can play a bit freer hopefully making less mistakes. Obviously alleviating pressure won't work with all players, players such as Gerrard seem to thrive under it, but if there's anyone that knows what makes these players tick I reckon it'd be the manager and coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Please read that over and over again until it becomes your mantra. Numb c?nts in the stands waving soppy fcuking cardboard signs and others on bedsheets; booing players and the manager; constantly slagging off the manager and some players in cyberspace - how is that supposed to spur on the players to greater heights? I believe there's a fair chance you are one of these 'fans' which would mean that your post (and especially the last sentence) was the height of fcuking hypocrisy. so why don't you (not personal but generic usage) make a stand and start cheering the club on, instead of just sitting there and letting the booing go on. It is easy to criticise that section of the fans but when there is no one cheering the club on, then there is only one voice being heard. So really which section of the crowd should be criticised - those booing or those who support the club but do not show it by cheering. If the cheering could be heard by the players etc then that could have a change of fortune, couldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Consequences? So Dutch if you can't over or under achive answer this if you can. In Euro 04, did Greece over achieve or did every one else under achieve, or did everyone strive to give 100% and Greece were 50/1 favourites. I'm sure the other teams strived to give 100% so therefore they under achieved, and Greece won the thing at 50/1 they must have over achieved, or did the bookies get it wrong and therefore themselves under achieve? So are you saying we therefore didn't over achieve by getting into Europe, but everyone else under achieved. All players STRIVE to give 100% of their abilities in each game they play. If a team loses or wins then it is down to training programmes and tactics or players having a bad day and not concentrating enough. Greece, had players and training programme that worked for them, then with the use of decent tactics and luck that teams they were playing against lost concentrtation or having a bad day meant Greece beat them all the way through to the finalk and won. Greece effectively achieved their potential, whilst other clubs did under-achieve due to many reasons such as a bad at the office syndrome, loss of concentration etc. But finish with how I started this post....All players STRIVE to give 100% of their abilities in each game they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 26, 2009 Moderators Share Posted April 26, 2009 All players STRIVE to give 100% of their abilities in each game they play. If a team loses or wins then it is down to training programmes and tactics or players having a bad day and not concentrating enough. Greece, had players and training programme that worked for them, then with the use of decent tactics and luck that teams they were playing against lost concentrtation or having a bad day meant Greece beat them all the way through to the finalk and won. Greece effectively achieved their potential, whilst other clubs did under-achieve due to many reasons such as a bad at the office syndrome, loss of concentration etc. But finish with how I started this post....All players STRIVE to give 100% of their abilities in each game they play. Not taht one group of players has greater potential than the others, then Aye, alreet When my team of under 10s loses to Messi et al, I'll let em know theyve not tried hard enough or theyve lacked conentration you're on borrowed time chum, so get ready to run back to the girls in that other place and squeal like a pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Not taht one group of players has greater potential than the others, then Aye, alreet When my team of under 10s loses to Messi et al, I'll let em know theyve not tried hard enough or theyve lacked conentration you're on borrowed time chum, so get ready to run back to the girls in that other place and squeal like a pig I would leave him be Casino, I know most of what he/she goes on about is crap but at least he gave a reason for his/her opinion, I think given time he/ she will tone it down a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I would leave him be Casino, I know most of what he/she goes on about is crap but at least he gave a reason for his/her opinion, I think given time he/ she will tone it down a bit I agree, it's people who have no rhyme or reason that we should be rooting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I agree, it's people who have no rhyme or reason that we should be rooting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 To both Tyldesley and Traf Thank you. I will try to tone down as much as possible, but I do believe in my views and will defend them no matter what (but tone of my arguments, i will try to address) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 To both Tyldesley and Traf Thank you. I will try to tone down as much as possible, but I do believe in my views and will defend them no matter what (but tone of my arguments, i will try to address) You are welcome, I've no beef about your views because (like I said) you back them up, which to me is what any discussion is about, wither you agree or not to the for mentioned views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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