Pre Season.

[passmosster]

Nolan scored a lot from SKD lay offs.

 

Trouble is now that when the ball is played up to Beckford, he very rarely wins it.

 

He'll be up front on his own at Watford.

 

If we score more than 1 goal, I'll be delirious.

[Mounts Kipper]

Depends what you enjoy Big E if you like a team set up to jockey the opposition and sit deep waiting for the opposition to give you the ball back and then try to hit them on the attack when you've not got a clinical finisher then DF is your man, I much prefer watching a game of football where full blooded challenges are regular,  high tempo and commitment with simple football with 2 wingers and moving the ball quicker forward putting the ball wide to create plenty of opportunities, yes I am a football dinosaur but that's how I like my football. I thought we were going to get that based on the sheff Wed away performance last season may be as there was nothing to play for DF was just tantalizing us with a style of football he is scared to use on a regular basis, maybe the pre-season he has thrown a dummy to the fans and will set up that way this season I live in hope. COYWM.   

Edited August 6, 2014 by Mounts Kipper

[Big E]

Mounts I am not judging what you like to watch. I am judging the fact that people are comparing it to non league. That's utter bollocks.

 

The day out for non league is good. Beer, banter and more relaxed but the standard of football is shit.

[gonzo]

DF is going to put Beckford bang in the firing line for the boo boys if he continues to play a system that offers him no service.

 

I dread to think about the amount of abuse he will get from the pillocks.

 

I know beggars can't be choosers but if we do manage to sign Mason,him playing up top with Beckford doesn't exactly fill me with excitement either.

 

Caught between a rock and hard a place as I don't think Mason can play off the main striker and either can Beckford.

 

Maybe wilkinson is the man?

[Mounts Kipper]

I think Wilkinson is the right type and could play a lone role but he is seriously young to be playing 46 games in the championship, neither Mason or Beckford have a cat in hells chance playing as a 1 up top. I cannot understand the Juke decision as think we will struggle to get his type/quality/age in for same money, time will tell. It really has pissed me off.

Edited August 6, 2014 by Mounts Kipper

[Big E]

I think Wilkinson is the right type and could play a lone role but he is seriously young to be playing 46 games in the championship, neither Mason or Beckford have a cat in hells chance playing as a 1 up top. I cannot understand the Juke decision as think we will struggle to get his type/quality/age in for same money, time will tell. 

 

What exactly was the juke decision? to not pay more than the lad is worth? after all he was shit when we signed him remember? maybe he wanted to play in the prem? 

[Mounts Kipper]

Regarding non league obviously technically and fitness wise these lads are poorer but I have seen Chorley/Bamber Bridge and Charnock Richard and Hyde this close season and 3 of them have given our academy teams a serious game and Charnock gace a Wigan X1 a good game, the gaps not that big and you do get entertainment. The only thing missing is you don't get the buzz the same as when its BWFC.    

[tylswhite]

Im baffled as to why Dougie wont play two up top until the striker situation is resolved. Two from Wilkinson, Beckford and Davies is surely better than any of them on their own?

 

Maybe he will but it doesnt seem that way off the reports.

[superkev]

What exactly was the juke decision? to not pay more than the lad is worth? after all he was shit when we signed him remember? maybe he wanted to play in the prem?

 

 

Exactly. They could afford the fee and wages and we couldn't. That was the decision. We would have tried to sign him if we could.

[Garrp]

Regarding non league obviously technically and fitness wise these lads are poorer but I have seen Chorley/Bamber Bridge and Charnock Richard and Hyde this close season and 3 of them have given our academy teams a serious game and Charnock gace a Wigan X1 a good game, the gaps not that big and you do get entertainment. The only thing missing is you don't get the buzz the same as when its BWFC.    

 

you expect people to take you seriously when you come out with stuff like that.

[Mounts Kipper]

Not to even bid bid for Juke was the clubs decision,  he asked for more time from Burnley to allow BWFC to make an offer, we did not do that, we are supposed to be a trading club he is good young and wanted to play and suited our style Burnley do not pay big money we should have prioritized any budget we had on signing a player to fit our style, we could easily borrow premier league defenders on loan, seemingly we cannot find a striker who we can loan or buy, it was a monumental fuck up of a decision, the club seem to want to self destruct.     

[barrycowdrill]

The Juke "decision" was deciding to hold off until the last minute to try and get him cheaper than the £1 mil Boro initially wanted at the end of last season.

 

unfortunately for us his good performances meant other parties became interested and it became a sellers market, pushed the price up and priced us out

 

the club did their business early for a change but missed out on THE key signing by fooking around. We should have been knocking on the door of the Riverside the day after the season ended with the cheque in hand. simple

[tyldesley_white]

Exactly. They could afford the fee and wages and we couldn't. That was the decision. We would have tried to sign him if we could.

Maybe all the talk about him wanting to come to us was just a load of bull shit, I mean it not unheard off on here is it, you know if it’s said often enough it then becomes fact

[Mounts Kipper]

Garp its proven time and time again in cup games non league and lower league clubs beat premier league and clubs higher up the ladder on many occasions, is that not true? 

Edited August 6, 2014 by Mounts Kipper

[tylswhite]

Not to even bid bid for Juke was the clubs decision,  he asked for more time from Burnley to allow BWFC to make an offer, we did not do that, we are supposed to be a trading club he is good young and wanted to play and suited our style Burnley do not pay big money we should have prioritized any budget we had on signing a player to fit our style, we could easily borrow premier league defenders on loan, seemingly we cannot find a striker who we can loan or buy, it was a monumental fuck up of a decision, the club seem to want to self destruct.

 

Thing is we haven't spent a penny on transfer fees have we? Its not like we spunked the money on somebody else is it?

 

Clearly we knew his wage situation or we wouldn't have been interested so that was never a problem.

 

Fact of the matter is we just couldn't afford him in our budget once other clubs came in.

 

Edited August 6, 2014 by tylswhite

[tyldesley_white]

Garp its proven time and time again in cup games non league and lower league clubs beat premier league and clubs higher up the ladder on many occasions, is that not true? 

In a one off yes, week in week out, not a chance

[Garrp]

Garp its proven time and time again in cup games non league and lower league clubs beat premier league and clubs higher up the ladder on many occasions, is that not true? 

 

no it isn't

 

its proven on a one off basis

 

if what you're saying is true you should be a millionaire by now by betting on it  and buying the club off eddie davies

[Mounts Kipper]

Then the gap isn't that big is it?  otherwise these supposedly shitty lower level teams would not get near them even on a 1 off basis, the fact is the difference is usually fitness and large squads. The likes of the top 6 Premiership a big gap its not nearly as pronounced when your a bottom half championship team.    

Edited August 6, 2014 by Mounts Kipper

[Garrp]

Then the gap isn't that big is it?  otherwise these supposedly shitty lower level teams would not get near them even on a 1 off basis, the fact is the difference is usually fitness and large squads. The likes of the top 6 Premiership a big gap its not nearly as pronounced when your a bottom half championship team.    

 

you're talking utter bollocks

[Big E]

Mounts you are a clever man but this is bollocks......the gap is massive.

[Henry_VIII]

It's all about consistency. In a one off game the gap isn't big but if a non league team played in the Championship they would finish bottom after 46 games.

[Seabiscuit]

Im baffled as to why Dougie wont play two up top until the striker situation is resolved. Two from Wilkinson, Beckford and Davies is surely better than any of them on their own?

 

Maybe he will but it doesnt seem that way off the reports.

Would have to assume he doesn't think the midfield is good enough to play 4-4-2.

 

Spearing/Mark Davies as the central pair and Feeney/Lee or whoever as the wingers

 

Is that good enough to get us challenging?

 

Personally id rather play that way than 4-5-1 without a quality striker.

[Mounts Kipper]

Garp stop flying into a rage and back your comments up with some facts please. I will repeat my points so you can respond them in a sensible manner.

 

Non league clubs give professional clubs tough and close matches when they meet in the cup. Is that not true?

 

Many better non league players break into the professional ranks and end up playing for in the top flight such as Ricky Lambert/Grant Holt/Pilkington and many others end up playing in Championship/1/2. Is that not true?

 

One of the main difference is fitness or the physical capability to be a better athlete of many of the professionals? Is that not true? 

 

Many non professional also have a day job then train and play in there own time this gives Pros another edge. Is that not true?

 

As I have stated entertainment at non league can be better than a professional game. Do you agree it sometimes can be?

 

There is a gap I have said that, but to say it is massive is wrong especially if you take out the top 6-8 in the premier league, remember the likes of Nicky Hunt played in the premier league and many other not particularly brilliant players.

 

Now if you want a reasoned debate stop using bollocks as an argument and back it up with facts.

Edited August 6, 2014 by Mounts Kipper

[tylswhite]

Would have to assume he doesn't think the midfield is good enough to play 4-4-2.

 

Spearing/Mark Davies as the central pair and Feeney/Lee or whoever as the wingers

 

Is that good enough to get us challenging?

 

Personally id rather play that way than 4-5-1 without a quality striker.

 

I read a quote from him saying that he doesn't have enough attackers to play two up front. No mention of midfield though?

 

Just so many fucking riddles from him.

 

[Carlos]

Many better non league players break into the professional ranks and end up playing for in the top flight

Your definition of "many" and mine clearly differ.