Do we give Dougie? I am a big fan and I can't see us getting anyone better,but if there is no sign of his "plan"it's time to take a gamble on someone else.

 

10 games for me

Are people wanting footballers to be in work 7 days a week? i say work because it is a job. just like any other.

It isn't a job just like any other though.

 

 

Training could also be about how to pass & move, how to make space to receive a pass, how to control the ball & pass it one quickly,

 

fcuking hell

 

do you actually believe this shit?

Sounds eminently sensible to me. And the evidence is before our eyes, on a weekly basis, that it isn't happening.

fcuking hell

 

do you actually believe this shit?

Depends what we are believing.

 

What Rembrandt has mentioned there, we are fucking shocking at as a team. Even Bury and Crewe schooled us on them attributes, made us look amateur.

Depends what we are believing.

 

What Rembrandt has mentioned there, we are fucking shocking at as a team. Even Bury and Crewe schooled us on them attributes, made us look amateur.

 

 

not being funny, but if you cant do that stuff at 25, you aint ever doing it

 

2 days aint making a difference, anyway

not being funny, but if you cant do that stuff at 25, you aint ever doing it

 

2 days aint making a difference, anyway

Agree with the two days bit but I think a proper coach can instill a philosophy and improve players at any age.

 

This is more down to Dougies failings rather than 2 days on the piss imo.

Agree with the two days bit but I think a proper coach can instill a philosophy and improve players at any age.

 

makes you wonder why proper coaches are forever using the transfer market and not just getting their players in on a sunday

makes you wonder why proper coaches are forever using the transfer market and not just getting their players in on a sunday

 

Buying good players is a shortcut and easier if you have the cash. Also extra training of the same stuff wouldn't make any difference as it currently isn't working is it?

 

Sadly we don't have cash or a decent gaffer so we are struggling a bit.

 

It isn't a job just like any other though.

 

Why isn't it? you are employed to do a job. when you are no longer required your employment is stopped

Why isn't it? you are employed to do a job. when you are no longer required your employment is stopped

 

It's not the same though.

 

When my firm decide they don't want me they make me redundant or sack me. Either way I get a small part of my wage.

 

If Bolton decide they want rid, they haveto pay a nice juicy contract up in full.

Are people wanting footballers to be in work 7 days a week? i say work because it is a job. just like any other. 

 

Not work 7 days a week but ensure they are as close to physical peakness for the 9-10 months of the year.

 

The majority of the general public can get away with being overweight or only being 90% on a monday morning for their jobs.  Professional athletes cannot be afforded this luxury, especially when everyone is looking for even 1-2% improvements with other scientific technique........ On the flip side footballers are paid massive sums for this commitment compared to the man in the street.  The tired response of "its only a short career" is invalid in todays world of inflated footballers salaries as the majority of the 1st team will earn more in a single BWFC contract than the majority of us in our working lifetimes.

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Why isn't it? you are employed to do a job. when you are no longer required your employment is stopped

A footballer should keep himself in top physical condition as his job requires it. Getting wasted in Ibiza a month into the season might be ok if you're an out of shape office worker but not for a footballer imo.

It's not the same though.

 

When my firm decide they don't want me they make me redundant or sack me. Either way I get a small part of my wage.

 

If Bolton decide they want rid, they haveto pay a nice juicy contract up in full.

 

This is because they sign a fixed contract though. You are on an open ended one 

Footballers should have a day off in the week and Sundays off after a Saturday game.

They should be at the club 5 days a week whether there are games or not.

They don't have to do physical training every day.

 

They could watch DVDs of future opponents and plan tactics.

They could go and see the dying kids in hospitals and give toys out.

Whatever etc etc but not on the piss in Ibiza and up to the eyes in jermaine beakford.

Footballers should have a day off in the week and Sundays off after a Saturday game.

They should be at the club 5 days a week whether there are games or not.

They don't have to do physical training every day.

 

They could watch DVDs of future opponents and plan tactics.

They could go and see the dying kids in hospitals and give toys out.

Whatever etc etc but not on the piss in Ibiza and up to the eyes in jermaine beakford.

 

Will there be time for ping-pong and roasting teenage girls?

For sure. As long as the girls are over 16

Will there be time for ping-pong and roasting teenage girls?

They'd only fuck that up.

i am not a doom and gloomer, infact im much more in the deluded/blind faith camp

 

but im sick to death of there being an excuse for every single thing

 

we are 3rd bottom in the championship and our wage budget would suggest we should be top half

 

i don't understand how people can't see that this is yet another small part of us being fucking dog shit.

 

we are not sunday league, we are in the championship. a top 10 league in the world.

 

yet our captain is on the smash in ibiza 3 weeks into the season.

 

it's a fucking joke

 

 

not being funny, but if you cant do that stuff at 25, you aint ever doing it

 

2 days aint making a difference, anyway

 

There's always areas you can improve on though. Allardyce once said that teaching a team to defend was the easy part. He would just work on it over and over again on the training ground until it became second nature. There's that bit in the 'Big Ron Manager' series when Peterborough's manager tells his players that Bolton spend hours and hours every week practicing how to defend, which is why they're good at it.

there are

 

which is why i wouldn't argue that coaching cant improve set pieces and general in game organisation

 

but to suggest the answer to our inability to pass a ball well lies in not practicing (c or s, oh dear) it, nah, im not having it

 

and i dont see any point doing it day after day after day

 

players had time off under allardyce

 

i seem to remember they fcuked off in that 6 game run of defeats

 

we got all the same moans and groans

Jussi used to spend all afternoon on a Friday watching the next days opponents free kicks, pens, shape when shooting, either at euxton or on the team bus.

there are

 

which is why i wouldn't argue that coaching cant improve set pieces and general in game organisation

 

but to suggest the answer to our inability to pass a ball well lies in not practicing (c or s, oh dear) it, nah, im not having it

 

and i dont see any point doing it day after day after day

 

players had time off under allardyce

 

i seem to remember they fcuked off in that 6 game run of defeats

 

we got all the same moans and groans

Well lets just have all week off and tell them to be at the reebok for 1pm on a Saturday and that's it.

 

The team should be prepared for every outcome and practicing a whole range of skills along with watching opponents and all that stuff.

 

If your doing shit then the efforts should be even more. Not oh well you wont improve at this age anyway see you Saturday. 

Well lets just have all week off and tell them to be at the reebok for 1pm on a Saturday and that's it.

 

this was pretty much Coyle's regime with table tennis and stand up routines by Robbie Blake for those who wanted

 

when Muamba didn't make it for 1pm, his time was up

Well lets just have all week off and tell them to be at the reebok for 1pm on a Saturday and that's it.

 

The team should be prepared for every outcome and practicing a whole range of skills along with watching opponents and all that stuff.

 

If your doing shit then the efforts should be even more. Not oh well you wont improve at this age anyway see you Saturday. 

 

 

its about balance

 

don't do anything and do it 24/7 are both shite

 

something in the middle

 

anyway, i'm sure you wont see pictures of jay spearing on the pop again this season

 

and if that makes people happier, great

its about balance

 

don't do anything and do it 24/7 are both shite

 

something in the middle

 

anyway, i'm sure you wont see pictures of jay spearing on the pop again this season

 

and if that makes people happier, great

 

I agree. It should be structured, organised and relevant. Doesn't seem like the players have a clue what system is being played so something is going wrong.

 

At the moment we look a shambles from top to bottom and we shouldn't have to be doing the "it wont happen again" it just shouldn't be happening to start with.