Gaycake

[Smiffs]

There's a page on the BBC about a Christian Baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay event.

 

The gays are throwing their handbags about bleating about discrimination and homophobia etc.

 

The god botherers are harping back to some stone age religious bollocks.

 

Now then... if its increasingly acceptable (or the authorities turn blind eyes) for rayguns to ride roughshod over western laws and values, so why can't these Christians also say 'get fucked' to something they don't approve of?

 

If the happy clappers have a religious belief that gaydom is wrong, and the bumders think this is discrimination then both strongly believing they are right.

 

So who wins the argument and which bedwetting twat made themselves God to decide who is right and who is wrong?

[Traf]

A shop must surely reserve the right not to produce a product id they don't want to.

[frank_spencer]

The baker should be able to refuse service to who ever, but they should he ready for any backlash that comes their way for being backward fairy tale believing fucktards.

 

And the same rules should apply to all.

[Youri McAnespie]

Regular God Made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve Correspondent Bolty58 is on Holiday.

[Youri McAnespie]

They should bake a cake, but secretly wank into it as a form of protest.

[tylswhite]

They should bake a cake, but secretly wank into it as a form of protest.

What happens when the gaymundos scoff the cake and come back for more?

[Youri McAnespie]

I'll cross 'em, you nod 'em in'

[Youri McAnespie]

Meaning I'll crucify them (the gays) and then you can headbutt them into their shallow mass grave.

[no balls]

Do they make those buster & willy ones?

[Youri McAnespie]

A titwank cake? I suppose there's a market for anything these days...

[Maggie Tate]

What business is it of the govt's to tell people how to conduct their business? The gay couple's money will spend anywhere and some other more deserving company will gain. This is the kind of thing advanced society would be able to work out for itself without officialdom getting involved. Not nice for the gay pair, true, and stupidity on the company's part, also true, but they're entitled to ve stupid if so they wish.

[kent_white]

This Gavin Boyd quote summed it up nicely for me.

 

"The law is really clear. You cannot pick and choose which sides of the law apply to you. If you are a company that is trading out there in the market place and someone comes to you, you can't pick and choose whether or not to fulfil that order based on their sexual orientation,"

[Maggie Tate]

Then obviously that is one of the 75% or so of daft laws we have which should be repealed. In practice any business can turn anyone it wants away and there is no reason why this case is any different.

[madthatter]

It never ceases to amaze/amuse me that we live in a world where this is still an issue (the fairy tales and fairy fright)

 

I have to be up to speed with discrimination/inclusion legislation for my job at the minute.  As far as I understand it nothing here would actually be a breach of any legal requirement.

 

The baker could be refusing to sell cakes simply because he thinks they are a couple of cnuts, and that would be his right as a shopkeeper (as alluded to in another post) 

 

It's an interesting one though.  Personally, I feel that as we live in an enlightened era, if you can't prove by scientific means that bumders will cause the dead to rise and hell fires to run amock then you should quite simply be told to shut the fcuk up.  By law

 

Mind you that would have to work both ways I suppose and i'm not sure you could disprove the existence of God.  You could definitely contest whether it's His word or the word of controlling mentalists from yesteryear though . . .

[kent_white]

Then obviously that is one of the 75% or so of daft laws we have which should be repealed. In practice any business can turn anyone it wants away and there is no reason why this case is any different.

I disagree. I don't think a rational member of the public should have to worry about whether or not they will be served because of something as inherently irrational as religious belief.

[bgoefc]

Then obviously that is one of the 75% or so of daft laws we have which should be repealed. In practice any business can turn anyone it wants away and there is no reason why this case is any different.

Just for arguments sake. What if they refused to bake the cake because of the skin colour of the potential customer?

[Youri McAnespie]

Wouldn't surprise me if this was a setup...

 

Someone heard the proprieters of this shop had some iffy religious views regarding gays, so some gays purposefully order an 'inflammatory' cake.

 

A bit like the bible bashers did with that stewardess and the crucifix...

[maaarsh]

This is in Northern Ireland where gay marriage is illegal. So a government agency is threatening legal action because a company refuses to provide services to a political campaign. Very odd, but was always bound to happen, even if anyone who predicts this sort of inevitable next step is called paranoid as they were.

[only1swanny]

Half story...

 

 

the cake had the words "support gay marriage" and a picture of Bert and Ernie (Seasame Street) in an embrace (which im assuming to mean kissing).

 

The company said it couldn't make the cake because it went against their beliefs as a family ran bakery, and so the NI Equality commission threatened Legal Action unless they made it..

 

So basically despite it being against their beliefs and them supporting "traditional marriage", they are being FORCED to make it.. slippery slope.

 

If we forced a Muslim/Jewish restaurant owner to make a bacon butty, and threatened legal action if they refused, it wouldn't even find its way to court.

[tomski]

Half story...

 

 

the cake had the words "support gay marriage" and a picture of Daz and Cwp (ww posters) in an embrace (which im assuming to mean kissing).

 

The company said it couldn't make the cake because it went against their beliefs as a family ran bakery, and so the NI Equality commission threatened Legal Action unless they made it..

 

So basically despite it being against their beliefs and them supporting "traditional marriage", they are being FORCED to make it.. slippery slope.

 

If we forced a Muslim/Jewish restaurant owner to make a bacon butty, and threatened legal action if they refused, it wouldn't even find its way to court.

[kent_white]

If we forced a Muslim/Jewish restaurant owner to make a bacon butty, and threatened legal action if they refused, it wouldn't even find its way to court.

Only if they already sold bacon butties and refused to sell you one on the grounds that you are an infidel? That's assuming that you are one of course! :-)

[only1swanny]

probably not the best example I could have used..

 

but being forced to do something against your beliefs has to work both ways..

[kent_white]

probably not the best example I could have used..

 

but being forced to do something against your beliefs has to work both ways..

Absolutely - I just don't think anybody saying they are discriminating against somebody because of a religious inclination should have a leg to stand on. Christian, Muslim, Seventh Day Adventist or Hellenistic Paganism.

[Youri McAnespie]

They should accept the order and produce a cake with vignettes of Bert and Ernie engaging in acts of sodomy, simultaneous oral copulation, fisting, anal stretching and butthole pleasures amongst themselves and with multiple other partners...

 

Tell it like it is (for some members of the gay community).

[Youri McAnespie]

Don't include Animal or Fozzie Bear though, they're not into that type of thing.