In fairness the Muslim Council of Britain have condemned it again, but that's a bit like Colin Moynahan telling us lot not to get pissed and to behave next time we're in Belgium or wherever.

 

To me though it's about too many people missing the point by a mile and a half, are too blinded by Lesbians for Lebanon type shite, or are on the whole just too fucking mard.

 

It's not about vicars noncing kids. We condemn that openly as a society. Burn the bastards.

 

It's not about 70's pop stars noncing kids. Again, we condemn it openly. Dig them up and burn the bastards.

 

It's not about Harold Shipman. We condemn him too. Well, apart from the scousers.

 

It's about a disproportionate proportion of the Muslim community up and down the UK noncing kids, the inaction of their brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, friends, and colleagues when it was going on (Big Jock knew and so did this fucking lot), and the now deafening silence from same communities and the people who defend them come rain or shine.

 

Maybe when we see the UAF and suchlike condemning these sex beasts and sections of their community which wants to drag us into the stone age, I might think society has a chance with the unhealthy anti-Muslim feelings we have festering in the UK.

 

I reckon I'll be waiting a while though.

Thank you!

 

I thought I had been transported to an alternative solar system for a few hours, the Guardianistas have it seems got over their initial shock and reverted to the two legs bad four legs good mantra!

Thank you!

 

I thought I had been transported to an alternative solar system for a few hours, the Guardianistas have it seems got over their initial shock and reverted to the two legs bad four legs good mantra!

Pah. Consumerist Guardian scum. Morning Star for this comrade!

Because we don't like girls with moustaches.

Bullshit!

 

Typical leftie view that thinks of the perpetrators and their background first and come out with some "whataboutery" as they simply cannot bring themselves to lay the blame where it belongs. You cannot resist playing "prejudice" card.

 

Ok I will drop my so called "prejudice" when:

 

1. The Pakistani community "actually" takes steps to integrate into UK society.

2. They drop their defensive "victim" attitude.

3. They stop insisting on more an more Shariah law. (In fact all such Shariah law granted thus far in the UK should be repealed.)

4. They stop treating women in general like second class citizens and viewing those that do not cover up as harlots and deserving of assault.

5. They stop importing Saudi imams.

6. They get hold of the anti western radical islamic views within their circles and "out" those with those views.

7. They put being British first before their love of their country and origin, but more importantly their stone age religion which they genuinely believe absolves them of any moral come back, i.e. if its in the blessed Koran its all that matters.

 

Until then I will just have to carry on wearing the label you want to give me.

Here here.

In fairness the Muslim Council of Britain have condemned it again, but that's a bit like Colin Moynahan telling us lot not to get pissed and to behave next time we're in Belgium or wherever.

 

To me though it's about too many people missing the point by a mile and a half, are too blinded by Lesbians for Lebanon type shite, or are on the whole just too fucking mard.

 

It's not about vicars noncing kids. We condemn that openly as a society. Burn the bastards.

 

It's not about 70's pop stars noncing kids. Again, we condemn it openly. Dig them up and burn the bastards.

 

It's not about Harold Shipman. We condemn him too. Well, apart from the scousers.

 

It's about a disproportionate proportion of the Muslim community up and down the UK noncing kids, the inaction of their brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, friends, and colleagues when it was going on (Big Jock knew and so did this fucking lot), and the now deafening silence from same communities and the people who defend them come rain or shine.

 

Maybe when we see the UAF and suchlike condemning these sex beasts and sections of their community which wants to drag us into the stone age, I might think society has a chance with the unhealthy anti-Muslim feelings we have festering in the UK.

 

I reckon I'll be waiting a while though.

Here here.

Bullshit!

 

Typical leftie view that thinks of the perpetrators and their background first and come out with some "whataboutery" as they simply cannot bring themselves to lay the blame where it belongs. You cannot resist playing "prejudice" card.

 

Ok I  will drop my so called "prejudice" when:

 

1. The Pakistani community "actually" takes steps to integrate into UK society.

2. They drop their defensive "victim" attitude.

3. They stop insisting on more an more Shariah law. (In fact all such Shariah law granted thus far in the UK should be repealed.)

4. They stop treating women in general like second class citizens and viewing those that do not cover up as harlots and deserving of assault.

5. They stop importing Saudi imams.

6. They get hold of the anti western radical islamic views within their circles and "out" those with those views.

7. They put being British first before their love of their country and origin, but more importantly their stone age religion which they genuinely believe absolves them of any moral come back, i.e. if its in the blessed Koran its all that matters.

 

Until then I will just have to carry on wearing the label you want to give me.

 

 

This is good thinking, pragmatic thinking, for the times.

 

But, this will not have a chance of happening.

 

 

They have had 40+ years of growing their culture here and have not seen the need to change. The religion is deemed to be the only way and there is no room for any other viewpoint. The numbers are growing much faster than the indigenous population and rather than becoming more British, we will have little option to accommodate them.

Pah. Consumerist Guardian scum. Morning Star for this comrade!

Nice one comrade! ????

Bottom line is that the authorities have made the country as a whole too bloody soft and tolerant allowing nasty bastards to run riot and get away with it. I fear that there's no turning back now and the rot has been allowed to set in for too long.

 

A few general points which is a bit of a pouring out of resentment rather than anything constructive to offer:

 

I personally was racist for the sake of it as a teenager through bravado and the influence of others but when I reached my late 20's grew up a bit, snapped myself out of it and started a fresh slate. This has been eroded away over the last decade by numerous encounters with and observations of Pakistani men through business and just general life (I've just re-read that and it's not what it seems !!! - this is a serious statement) and I'm afraid I have a passionate dislike for them as I find them to be highly arrogant with a sense of untouchable superiority and totally different morals to the English traditional society. I'm of the view that part of this is a combination of upbringing, a religion which on the face of it looks down on any non-practitioners with differing degrees of passion (perfectly illustrated by worldwide events) and the authorities allowing them to get away with all sorts. This week alone I've seem a row of cars parked outside a mosque on double yellows, a car full of them driving whilst smoking joints and I've had road rage with 2 different drivers behaving like pricks. I see no enforcement of simple things and know for a fact that the council and police in this town tread on egg shells around them. I understand that there are steps meant to be being taken within the Pakistani community but I feel a lot of it is just lip service. I usually quietly keep my thoughts to myself as they're "not allowed" these days and I would be the offender. I regard myself as well balanced, worldly wise and reasonably intelligent (sorry if it sounds arrogant) and realise that I can't do anything about it and it's very sad.

 

I know a para who openly says that he won't serve alongside a Muslim where his life is in their hands as he has trust issues with them. He has no issues with gays, blacks, Indians etc etc.

 

Funnily enough the Indian culture seems different and I can't recall any contentious issues I've ever had with one.

 

For the record I also hate white trash benefit cheats and scrotes - they get away with it also because they've been allowed to and who can blame them but it seems acceptable to speak out about that group.

 

I'm happy to hear conflicting views and I'll try to be as open minded as possible. I know I shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush but episode after episode is reinforcing my views although I hope and am sure there are decent Pakistanis out there blending into the background.

 

Is it just me or does it seem like so many of the problems we read about in the world involve Muslims ??

 

May the flood gates open from the pro multi cultural tolerant brigade !!!!

Edited August 29, 201411 yr by fatty

Bottom line is that the authorities have made the country as a whole too bloody soft and tolerant allowing nasty bastards to run riot and get away with it. I fear that there's no turning back now and the rot has been allowed to set in for too long.

 

A few general points which is a bit of a pouring out of resentment rather than anything constructive to offer:

 

I personally was racist for the sake of it as a teenager through bravado and the influence of others but when I reached my late 20's grew up a bit, snapped myself out of it and started a fresh slate. This has been eroded away over the last decade by numerous encounters with and observations of Pakistani men through business and just general life (I've just re-read that and it's not what it seems !!! - this is a serious statement) and I'm afraid I have a passionate dislike for them as I find them to be highly arrogant with a sense of untouchable superiority and totally different morals to the English traditional society. I'm of the view that part of this is a combination of upbringing, a religion which on the face of it looks down on any non-practitioners with differing degrees of passion (perfectly illustrated by worldwide events) and the authorities allowing them to get away with all sorts. This week alone I've seem a row of cars parked outside a mosque on double yellows, a car full of them driving whilst smoking joints and I've had road rage with 2 different drivers behaving like pricks. I see no enforcement of simple things and know for a fact that the council and police in this town tread on egg shells around them. I understand that there are steps meant to be being taken within the Pakistani community but I feel a lot of it is just lip service. I usually quietly keep my thoughts to myself as they're "not allowed" these days and I would be the offender but I'm afraid I'm growing to fucking hate them. I regard myself as well balanced, worldly wise and reasonably intelligent (sorry if it sounds arrogant) and realise that I can't do anything about it and it's very sad.

 

I know a para who openly says that he won't serve alongside a Muslim where his life is in their hands as he has trust issues with them. He has no issues with gays, blacks, Indians etc etc.

 

Funnily enough the Indian culture seems different and I can't recall any contentious issues I've ever had with one.

 

For the record I also hate white trash benefit cheats and scrotes - they get away with it also because they've been allowed to and who can blame them but it seems acceptable to speak out about that group.

 

I'm happy to hear conflicting views and I'll try to be as open minded as possible. I know I shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush but episode after episode is reinforcing my views although I hope and am sure there are decent Pakistanis out there blending into the background.

 

Is it just me or does it seem like so many of the problems we read about in the world involve Muslims ??

 

May the flood gates open from the pro multi cultural tolerant brigade !!!!

What about Indian Muslims?

I used to work with a Muslamic lass of Indian origin who was a decent sort (I'd say B's but a cracking body) she was massively westernised as were her family.

 

Don't get me wrong I do know that certain community groupings get away with the minor law breaking like traffic laws especially (driving through cheetham hill price dobble is a nightmare) which in turn will lead to them thinking they can get away with bigger things.

The fact the police/traffic wardens go easy fucks me off massively.

What about Indian Muslims?

I used to work with a Muslamic lass of Indian origin who was a decent sort (I'd say B's but a cracking body) she was massively westernised as were her family.

 

Don't get me wrong I do know that certain community groupings get away with the minor law breaking like traffic laws especially (driving through cheetham hill price dobble is a nightmare) which in turn will lead to them thinking they can get away with bigger things.

The fact the police/traffic wardens go easy fucks me off massively.

Whataboutery!

Somewhere earlier in the topic it was mentioned that Kashmiris are the problem rather than Pakistanis overall.

It seems that more than half are Kashmiris, but a real issue is that the educated Pakistanis are concentrated in London, plus to a lesser extent west Midlands and Machester. The Kashmiris are prevalent in the towns of Lancashire and Yorkshire.

Hence if you live in London as the government effectively does, you do not see the problem as it really is, and can dismiss it as daft Northerners being racist. Until very recently, that is.

However, whichever way you cut it, the Police have a lot of explaining to do.

Of course, if Scotland were already independent that lady professor from Edinburgh would not have prepared her report....

Whataboutery!

He'd said he wasn't keen on Muslims but didn't mind Indians it was a fair whataboutery imo

Indian Muslims cannot stand Pakistani Muslims

It's more to do with culture than religion

Indian Muslims cannot stand Pakistani Muslims

It's more to do with culture than religion

Are they then racist, prejudice or just honest?

Blow me, it just gets worse this case

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-29012571

Blow me, it just gets worse this case

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-29012571

 

I actually think a lot worse is to come - there is no way the council/police/gov can keep a lid on this, I really hope it is going to blow up big time because all those who turned a blind eye and therefore encouraged this abuse deserve everything coming to them.

Welcome to Yorkshire

Welcome to Yorkshire

 

 

Always been top of the league for producing murderers. Looks like they might be in for further 'honours'.

Tip of the iceberg.

 

Barnsley Blackburn Oldham Sheffield Bradford ....

 

All these old industrial hubs with a high ethnic population will soon start having investigations.. The racism terms build an effective shield for these monsters

I actually think a lot worse is to come - there is no way the council/police/gov can keep a lid on this, I really hope it is going to blow up big time because all those who turned a blind eye and therefore encouraged this abuse deserve everything coming to them.

racist abuse don't forget they were regarded as white trash

Bullshit!

 

Typical leftie view that thinks of the perpetrators and their background first and come out with some "whataboutery" as they simply cannot bring themselves to lay the blame where it belongs. You cannot resist playing "prejudice" card.

 

Ok I will drop my so called "prejudice" when:

 

1. The Pakistani community "actually" takes steps to integrate into UK society.

2. They drop their defensive "victim" attitude.

3. They stop insisting on more an more Shariah law. (In fact all such Shariah law granted thus far in the UK should be repealed.)

4. They stop treating women in general like second class citizens and viewing those that do not cover up as harlots and deserving of assault.

5. They stop importing Saudi imams.

6. They get hold of the anti western radical islamic views within their circles and "out" those with those views.

7. They put being British first before their love of their country and origin, but more importantly their stone age religion which they genuinely believe absolves them of any moral come back, i.e. if its in the blessed Koran its all that matters.

 

Until then I will just have to carry on wearing the label you want to give me.

good post so true

Joyce Thacker has resigned as director of Children's Services at Rotherham council. However with an index linked pension of £62450 per Annum I doubt that she will be that bothered.

Joyce Thacker has resigned as director of Children's Services at Rotherham council. However with an index linked pension of £62450 per Annum I doubt that she will be that bothered.

I hope that racist bitch dies of aids