Todays Games

[DirtySanchez]

51 minutes ago, gonzo said:

That's just nonsense.

United spend more.

Do PSG win champions league every season?

 

Arsenal and Barcelona have spent more than PSG over the last few years 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Surely that in part comes with having a decent manager, giving him some time with his staff, and perhaps decent owners. 

Signing "shite" is a bit disingenuous as plenty come with a decent record.

Simply, City have built infrastructure and a philosophy over the years, in addition to buying players. 

Utd had that once, but have gone the other way.

Newcastle haven't won the league yet, and supposedly they've got more cash still.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Surely that in part comes with having a decent manager, giving him some time with his staff, and perhaps decent owners. 

Signing "shite" is a bit disingenuous as plenty come with a decent record.

Simply, City have built infrastructure and a philosophy over the years, in addition to buying players. 

Utd had that once, but have gone the other way.

Newcastle haven't won the league yet, and supposedly they've got more cash still.

It's about the market the club shops in

The initial enormous cash injection is what got City into those markets and their bottomless pit of cash will likely keep them there

Once in, it's easier to regulate spending because they have access to the cream of the crop and so don't have as big a turnover of players 

The Geordies haven't yet won the league but they've got from relegation contenders to Champions League qualifiers in eighteen months

The future of the PL lies with City and Newcastle United - other clubs will challenge and will occasionally win, but unless the rules change those two will dominate

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

The petrostate clubs are a different beast to the other wealthy clubs and it's why Florentino Perez and the like are having a shitfit about them

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It's about the market the club shops in

The initial enormous cash injection is what got City into those markets and their bottomless pit of cash will likely keep them there

Once in, it's easier to regulate spending because they have access to the cream of the crop and so don't have as big a turnover of players 

The Geordies haven't yet won the league but they've got from relegation contenders to Champions League qualifiers in eighteen months

The future of the PL lies with City and Newcastle United - other clubs will challenge and will occasionally win, but unless the rules change those two will dominate

Thing is, this is what folk used to say about Utd.

Now the power has shifted.

It is also spreading further afield.

That bottomless pit you describe is not the be all and end all- ffp and its investigations are and will have an effect on that. City's hearing is expected to start in around a year's time, and other clubs will be watching intently. If guilty, I'm quite sure there will be a bigger point deduction than Everton.

The fundamental business plan by City's owners has indeed seen big initial team building, but with simultaneous investment in infrastructure etc.

Strangely, there are similarities there with our FV. A gradual move toward being self sustaining after initial cash injection.

Obviously, if they are guilty of rule busting along the way then they should be punished, but essentially they are achieving that level now.

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

Arsenal and Barcelona have spent more than PSG over the last few years 

They are still worth more than those two clubs combined which was the original point.

Chelsea have just spend half a billion quid as did Everton not so long back.

Its not just a case of spending big and having limitless resources.

What Pep has done at City is on different level to anyone else and is far from just a case of buying the best.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Exactly.

[DirtySanchez]

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They are still worth more than those two clubs combined which was the original point.

Chelsea have just spend half a billion quid as did Everton not so long back.

Its not just a case of spending big and having limitless resources.

What Pep has done at City is on different level to anyone else and is far from just a case of buying the best.

 

I know 

The point being made was access to resources 

Resources being more than money but the whole set up 

Don't know if PSG have deeper pockets than City but that's by the bye

Was just pointing out that PSG get singled out, maybe because of the league they are in, as spending loads but Arsenal have outspent them and barely troubled the European elite 

[Wanderlust]

Once a club has invested in quality, a lot of the focus switches to resale value and City have done pretty well when they’ve moved players on. Think they’ll struggle recouping their outlay for Phillips and Grealish though. Plus they attract the best to their academy so they’re making good money on the likes of Foden and Palmer.

And FFP is about net spend.

[DirtySanchez]

53 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Once a club has invested in quality, a lot of the focus switches to resale value and City have done pretty well when they’ve moved players on. Think they’ll struggle recouping their outlay for Phillips and Grealish though. Plus they attract the best to their academy so they’re making good money on the likes of Foden and Palmer.

And FFP is about net spend.

Despite being a permacrock I think they'll get a good chunk back for Phillips 

Rumoured Newcastle are interested, probably still lives around Leeds so doesn't have to move, England international etc

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

Once a club has invested in quality, a lot of the focus switches to resale value and City have done pretty well when they’ve moved players on. Think they’ll struggle recouping their outlay for Phillips and Grealish though. Plus they attract the best to their academy so they’re making good money on the likes of Foden and Palmer.

And FFP is about net spend.

Theyd get close with Grealish, £70m easy.. Hed walk in any other top team.

Fuck knows whats gone on with Phillips. Not got much wrong has Pep that's a big one. 

 

 

[little whitt]

Would any United  players 

get in the City Team

[gonzo]

15 minutes ago, little whitt said:

Would any United  players 

get in the City Team

Not one. None would get in Liverpools either.

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I reckon Liverpool could find a spot for Fernandes

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

Once a club has invested in quality, a lot of the focus switches to resale value and City have done pretty well when they’ve moved players on. Think they’ll struggle recouping their outlay for Phillips and Grealish though. Plus they attract the best to their academy so they’re making good money on the likes of Foden and Palmer.

And FFP is about net spend.

Aye

They'll produce them with all the link up clubs 

Got £15m for Trafford even though he never kicked a ball for them 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just watching on ITV 4: didn't realise Swanny was Ramsgate's manager. 🤣

[Roger_Dubuis]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Theyd get close with Grealish, £70m easy.. Hed walk in any other top team.

Fuck knows whats gone on with Phillips. Not got much wrong has Pep that's a big one. 

 

 

£52 million on a player Manchester City later  released for free after he was charged with multiple rape wasn't a great deal

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

£52 million on a player Manchester City later  released for free after he was charged with multiple rape wasn't a great deal

Doubt that was Peps decision tbh.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

4 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

£52 million on a player Manchester City later  released for free after he was charged with multiple rape wasn't a great deal

At least they actually released him though

[Tonge moor green jacket]

14 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

£52 million on a player Manchester City later  released for free after he was charged and subsequently cleared with multiple rape wasn't a great deal

 

[Johnnyrotten]

Watching FA Cup highlights, Maidstone's win v Barrow, I thought the No 4 joining in celebrations of the winning goal had a familiar frame.  Reiss Greenidge, only came on as sub but must have been one of the better days of his career, first time Maidstone have reached 3rd round apparently.

[DirtySanchez]

32 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

And he's suing them

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

And he's suing them

Indeed he is. 

Don't know the full story, but can perhaps understand why employees are sometimes suspended "on full pay" until a disciplinary hearing has happened.

[DirtySanchez]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Indeed he is. 

Don't know the full story, but can perhaps understand why employees are sometimes suspended "on full pay" until a disciplinary hearing has happened.

Depends what's in the contract 

Behave yourself might be 

We'll see

[DirtySanchez]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Indeed he is. 

Don't know the full story, but can perhaps understand why employees are sometimes suspended "on full pay" until a disciplinary hearing has happened.

"Manchester City FC failed to pay Mr Mendy any wages at all from September 2021, following Mr Mendy being charged with various offence all of which he was subsequently acquitted of, until the end of his contract in June 2023. The claim will come before an Employment Tribunal."